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peejay 08-12-02 04:11 PM

find out why the computer doesn't know the engine is running! :)

diabolical1 08-12-02 05:08 PM

i used to know some guys back in the Bronx that ran rears from old Datsun trucks because of the thicker axles and the torque-biased gearing, so maybe that's why he's running a Datsun rear (i'm sure it's not a truck because the wheel fit under the fenders, and i don't see the 6-bolts for the wheels) - but maybe he found some old datsun car, like the 810 (original Maxima or something) ... i'm just speculating ...

can someone explain this "welded/locked distributor"-thing that i heard mentioned in an earlier post? i've never heard of this before, and i'd like to know what it is and what it does.

ps
i love the interior of that black car (the snotty guy)

Felix Wankel 08-12-02 05:11 PM

Locked out= no advance= you don't blow your car up under boost from too much timing.

diabolical1 08-12-02 05:18 PM


Originally posted by Felix Wankel
Locked out= no advance= you don't blow your car up under boost from too much timing.
okay, now i'm really confused ...
wouldn't you want the timing to be more retarded with increasing boost? maybe i just understand it ... :D

Directfreak 08-12-02 05:23 PM


Originally posted by diabolical1


okay, now i'm really confused ...
wouldn't you want the timing to be more retarded with increasing boost? maybe i just understand it ... :D

You are correct. However, since you can't do that with a stock dizzy, you set the Maximum timing under boost conditions, and then the timing will be *really* off (slugging) off of boost.

It's the cheap and easy way to do it, without the frills.

Defprun 08-12-02 05:26 PM

Here it is again! This is the second time i see that k&N carb cap (the dohicky that hooks the turbo into the carb) on a rotary!!! Where did he get that from?!
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=928095

Looks awesome when polished :D

MIKE-P-28 08-12-02 05:27 PM

Haletch uses ALL GM sensors, god and I thought Id never put anything GM on my car :(

diabolical1 08-12-02 05:43 PM


Originally posted by Directfreak


You are correct. However, since you can't do that with a stock dizzy, you set the Maximum timing under boost conditions, and then the timing will be *really* off (slugging) off of boost.

It's the cheap and easy way to do it, without the frills.


gotcha, now!

thanks:cool:

and thanks to felix wankel, too!

AJC13B 08-12-02 05:44 PM

Jesus christ almighty!! What a car!! :D :D :D

I am impressed, very clean looking!!

10.19 huh? Hmmmmm ;)

Directfreak 08-12-02 10:48 PM


Originally posted by AJC13B
Jesus christ almighty!! What a car!! :D :D :D

I am impressed, very clean looking!!

10.19 huh? Hmmmmm ;)

You forgot the important part...

With a 12A!

;)

RotorMotorDriver 08-13-02 12:28 AM


Originally posted by defprun
Here it is again! This is the second time i see that k&N carb cap (the dohicky that hooks the turbo into the carb) on a rotary!!! Where did he get that from?!
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=928095

Looks awesome when polished :D

Already saw it and considered it for my cars cold air intake setup...Was gonna use it and put a K&N cone filter on the end out front of the radiator, but for one, it wont fit the stock carb (the one I use for now, until I get my Holley :)), and for two, its just too damn expensive for right now...maybe later. Anyway, here ya go...
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=27012

~T.J.

PS - Its $165.99 from Summit Racing, I called :). I decided to just build my own cold air intake for that much :).

diabolical1 08-13-02 12:58 AM

:withstupi maybe a dumb question, but is that the blow-off valve next to the alternator?

Directfreak 08-13-02 01:04 AM


Originally posted by diabolical1
:withstupi maybe a dumb question, but is that the blow-off valve next to the alternator?
Yes. They attached it to the bonnet rather than the IC piping. As I previously said... Sloppy.

Manntis 08-13-02 01:12 AM

Bonnet?

RotorMotorDriver 08-13-02 01:19 AM

Bonnet = Hood, or cover in "funny talk" as I like to call it. I assume he means bonnet as in the carb's "cover" :).

~T.J.

REVHED 08-13-02 01:25 AM


Originally posted by Directfreak


Yes. They attached it to the bonnet rather than the IC piping. As I previously said... Sloppy.

I don't see how there's anything wrong with mounting the BOV on the carb hat. IMO it's proberbly better that way since it places the BOV nearer to the actual point of reversion.

REVHED 08-13-02 01:28 AM


Originally posted by RotorMotorDriver
Bonnet = Hood, or cover in "funny talk" as I like to call it. I assume he means bonnet as in the carb's "cover" :).

~T.J.

So you're saying we Aussies talk funny? :)

Keaponlaffen 08-13-02 01:31 AM

haha Bonnet.... Boot..... great stuff... I wanna talk like an Aussie.... but then I'd get weird looks..... so on second thought...... I'm not going to...



:D IMA POST WHORE :D

:ban:

Jeff

Keaponlaffen 08-13-02 01:33 AM


Originally posted by Keaponlaffen
haha Bonnet.... Boot..... great stuff... I wanna talk like an Aussie.... but then I'd get weird looks..... so on second thought...... I'm not going to...



:D IMA POST WHORE :D

:ban:

Jeff

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=930940

RotorMotorDriver 08-13-02 01:33 AM


Originally posted by REVHED
So you're saying we Aussies talk funny? :)
Yes :)

~T.J.

PS - No Keaponlaffen, I am a post whore :)

S2-13BT 08-13-02 01:46 AM

Struth, give a bloke a fair go... CRIKEY :D






PS. You are all wrong. I am the post whore!:evilgrin:

RotorMotorDriver 08-13-02 01:51 AM

What the hell did you just say to me?

lol, :)

~T.J.

PS - The post whore strikes again :)

Keaponlaffen 08-13-02 01:52 AM


Originally posted by S2-13BT
Struth, give a bloke a fair go... CRIKEY :D

What about your blown chrome-plated muffler bearings and your struts that creak?

:D :p:

I think I should go to sleep now... :eek:

MIKE-P-28 08-13-02 02:49 AM

Man you guys are bored.. I go to sleep a few hours and come back :) LOL

Manntis 08-13-02 03:04 AM

fair dinkum.

I've only heard bonnet to mean the thing covering the engine compartment a.k.a. hood, so the bit about him connecting it to the bonnet- ah, nevermind. Stickers, anyone?

REVHED 08-13-02 04:57 AM

:D :D :D

RotorMotorDriver 08-13-02 05:05 AM

Is it just me, or is there no air filter on that car? I mean, shouldnt it be on the turbo inlet? I was thinking it could be in that box before the air hits the injectors and what-not, but wouldnt you want the air filtered before it goes through your turbo and intercooler? Someone explain please :)...

~T.J.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...chmentid=20421

PS - In this pic, you can see both the box Im talking about, and the front of the turbo, so you can see both of the places I think it could/would be...Personally I would run some cold air intake duct work up to the front to match all that other shiny duct work :).

REVHED 08-13-02 05:09 AM

Yeah, he probably just took it off while he's at the track. Not a very good idea IMO.

AJC13B 08-13-02 05:15 AM

Revhead and rotor - When you are making 500+hp and running low 10s using 25psi+, an airfilter has to flow a shitload and has to NOT get sucked into the turbo...

Most DONT flow air and some ENJOY getting sucked into a turbo... :D

Defprun 08-13-02 05:20 AM

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=928095

I was just wondering, because one of the best carburated setups I have ever seen was on Carlos Gonzalez'z RX-3. He has a holley setup on a 13b-re and a Turbonetics T70 series Turbo with a Greddy Type-C wastegate. He's running alcohol and all he has is a street port!

8.435 seconds @ 157.45mph

You can reconize the cap, but it has been modded, you can see the beads of weld around the top and sides of it. But its polished! Too bad i cant post any pics. No scanner.

RotorMotorDriver 08-13-02 05:50 AM


Originally posted by AJC13B
Revhead and rotor - When you are making 500+hp and running low 10s using 25psi+, an airfilter has to flow a shitload and has to NOT get sucked into the turbo...

Most DONT flow air and some ENJOY getting sucked into a turbo... :D

Good point. Thanks for clearing that up :).

~T.J.

Directfreak 08-13-02 08:09 AM


Originally posted by defprun
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=928095

I was just wondering, because one of the best carburated setups I have ever seen was on Carlos Gonzalez'z RX-3. He has a holley setup on a 13b-re and a Turbonetics T70 series Turbo with a Greddy Type-C wastegate. He's running alcohol and all he has is a street port!

8.435 seconds @ 157.45mph

You can reconize the cap, but it has been modded, you can see the beads of weld around the top and sides of it. But its polished! Too bad i cant post any pics. No scanner.

So what was your question again?

jeremy 08-13-02 11:35 AM


Originally posted by Manntis
fair dinkum.

I've only heard bonnet to mean the thing covering the engine compartment a.k.a. hood, so the bit about him connecting it to the bonnet- ah, nevermind. Stickers, anyone?


:crackup: me me me! i was thinking hood too. if he does have a filter it is probably a cone and sits in front of the intercooler/radiator. that is where his piping disappears to.

MarkPerez 08-13-02 01:26 PM

Oh,,yeah ,, and don't forget to change the blinker fluid too.. lol Hey steve,,,12a what do you think about that ,,mate ..??? And hows your car doing these days.
anything new ??

peejay 08-13-02 01:56 PM


Originally posted by REVHED
I don't see how there's anything wrong with mounting the BOV on the carb hat. IMO it's proberbly better that way since it places the BOV nearer to the actual point of reversion.
That's my thoughts too. Less of the air flows backwards towards the BOV, which means less air has to change direction again when the throttle is re-opened.

AJC13B 08-13-02 05:59 PM


Originally posted by mark perez
Oh,,yeah ,, and don't forget to change the blinker fluid too.. lol Hey steve,,,12a what do you think about that ,,mate ..??? And hows your car doing these days.
anything new ??

Thats an amazing time! The fact its a 12A is even better!! But there are a few cars that will give the 10.19 a shake very soon :D

My car is having a much deserved rest :D Its also getting a new gearbox (the old one was knackered, the oil was black and couldnt get 1st gear! :D) and also a new twin plate (old one had blue plates and a buckled pressure plate) and once back together will be back on the street just taking it easy :D

Directfreak 08-13-02 06:18 PM

I am glad to hear she's going to take a break Steve. She's earned it.

I know there are cars faster that 10.19 out there, it's just that for a daily driver 12A, - it's pretty damn cool!

setzep 08-13-02 06:33 PM


Originally posted by AJC13B



Its also getting a new gearbox (the old one was knackered, the oil was black and couldnt get 1st gear! :D)

What!? Didn't you just put that trans in there a few months ago? Man you are hard on stuff..... Oh yeah, 10k clutch drops with slicks, heh, I supose that will do that ;)

MarkPerez 08-13-02 09:43 PM

It also looks like one could eat off of it too.. clean,,i don't
know about the location of the shifter though,,but thats just me.. I wonder just how much difference there is about the toyota - vs- mazda transmissions,,,if its gearing,or stronger innards and or case,or both..
I trip, that a toyota would bolt up,and the starter lines
up correct.

Directfreak 08-13-02 10:17 PM


Originally posted by mark perez
I trip, that a toyota would bolt up,and the starter lines up correct.
Actually they don't. There is an adapter plate used to mate them. Some of the adapters plates help put the tranny close to the stock location.

Like the pic below.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=933821

REVHED 08-13-02 10:54 PM

At the risk of pissing Moremazda off, you can also get fully cast and machined bellhousings to fit the Celica/Supra box on a rotary here in Aus. :D Apparently the boxes are quite strong and there's a good range of ratios available for them.

jeremy 08-14-02 12:44 AM

am i the only one who looks at that pic and out of everything notices the tree airfreshner?

Keaponlaffen 08-14-02 01:38 AM


Originally posted by REVHED
At the risk of pissing Moremazda off, you can also get fully cast and machined bellhousings to fit the Celica/Supra box on a rotary here in Aus. :D Apparently the boxes are quite strong and there's a good range of ratios available for them.

Jeesus, you can get EVERYTHING, AND ANYTHING "OVER THERE, CAN'T YOU?!!!!!!

Haha.... no.... j/k

sounds cool...


Jeff

Keaponlaffen 08-14-02 01:41 AM


Originally posted by jeremy
am i the only one who looks at that pic and out of everything notices the tree airfreshner?

OHHHHH.... have you smelled the "new car smell" tree air conditioner? It's great stuff... my friend has one in his '83 Buick Skylark.... the air freshener's worth about as much as the car...

My rex has 8 tree airfresheners in it, covering up the smell that 22 year old cars tend to get after sitting by a hay shed for a year... :D I'll look for a pic....


Jeff

Keaponlaffen 08-14-02 01:49 AM

muahahaha.... found it!

:D

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=934548

peejay 08-14-02 03:12 AM


Originally posted by jeremy
am i the only one who looks at that pic and out of everything notices the tree airfreshner?
Screw the tree... ya need the smiley face with requisite "X" plastic-tattooed (scratched and inked) on its forehead. :)

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=934718

(also note the shift knob position... it now has the stock knob sitting up about where the HVAC controls are :D )

peejay 08-14-02 04:02 AM

Here's a somewhat better one.... (note much better shifter placement relative to steering wheel)

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=934792

Keaponlaffen 08-14-02 03:25 PM

or you have to have the white fuzzy AIR FRESHENER dice :D

I have those in my truck :D

Jeff

jrios 08-14-02 04:12 PM


Originally posted by defprun
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=928095

I was just wondering, because one of the best carburated setups I have ever seen was on Carlos Gonzalez'z RX-3. He has a holley setup on a 13b-re and a Turbonetics T70 series Turbo with a Greddy Type-C wastegate. He's running alcohol and all he has is a street port!

8.435 seconds @ 157.45mph

That's not bad at all, but the best carburated set-up I have seen at the track is Falito's '88 RX7 running 7.66 with weber with a 13b street ported engine, 18 lbs of boost, but he does get some juice, i think a 2 stage nos system. The one thing that I like about his car is that it idles stock and u can't even hear the car at the light.

Defprun 08-14-02 05:00 PM

Directfreak:

I think my question was where i could get that K&N intake cap....and it was awnsered...with where i can get it. After that i was just noting that this Drag Racer from the IDRC has a 9 second Rx-3 with the cap that i asked about wich is also on that black car.

Jrios:

7 seconds! Holy shit! 18 psi, HOLY SHIT!!!


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