Removing Rats Nest - Keeping stock ECU

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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 04:38 AM
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Removing Rats Nest - Keeping stock ECU

At the moment I have a 20B Cosmo which has a faulty secondary turbo - it has blown its rear dynamic seal and spews oil under boost.

I have a 20B manifold, T04E, Xtreme Rotaries Fuel Rails, 6 ID1000's, A panspeed ECU, Innovate Wideband and Emanage Ultimate. (I also have the block-off plate kit from Xtreme Rotaries)

Now what I want to do is keep the panspeed ECU but use the Emanage to control the ID1000's via AFR target map in the Emanage Ultimate. This means that I will need to keep the airflow meter AND the factory ECU.

My main goal is to replace the smokey turbo, power can come later.

I have seen the article on Rotary Ressurection about non-sequential modification to the FD3S.

http://rotaryresurrection.com/3rdgen...ov_nonseq.html

What I need to know, is if the resistor modification to the rats nest plugs works the same on the 20B as the FD3S 13B?

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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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Yes the resistor mod will work the same as the fd.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:03 AM
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Do yourself a favor and stay away from Emanage. Just stay away. The software is pretty bad (I've used worse but it's up there). Just get a used SAFC. It will do the same job and not be a pain in the ***.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 05:16 AM
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Do yourself a favor and stay away from Emanage. Just stay away. The software is pretty bad (I've used worse but it's up there). Just get a used SAFC. It will do the same job and not be a pain in the ***.
Will the SAFC still be able to control the larger injectors?
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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An Emanage and an SAFC are practically the same thing in some ways. The Emanage can modify the airflow meter signal, modify the injector signal (pulsewidth), and modify the ignition output. I have used it on Rx-8 and 3000GT/GTO applications. It doesn't work anywhere near as well in real life than it does on paper. The software is dated and clunky. Installation is a pain considering there are so many different things to set up and the instructions are poor.

The Emanage isn't going to control the larger injectors much better than an SAFC--you will have the ability to modify injector pulsewidth, but it's trickier to use than it looks. "AFR target" and all that is garbage. It sounds good but it doesn't work well. And the Emanage is going to cost you more money.

Neither Emanage nor SAFC are not really great options in the sense that you can't really control injector staging anyway. A used SAFC is cheap, reliable, easy to install and easy to use though.
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