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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Confirmation needed for NA to TII swap - searched

I have an 88 vert, NA and recently found a GXL (i think) stock TII at a local yard. I asked them to pull it out so I can start pulling items (listed below) for my swap. I would just like a confirmation from the group that I am considering all of the parts required to pull from the TII in order to do a seamless swap as well as a confirmation that I am really considering the most reasonable (cost effective) option here.

Parts list:
Engine
Transmission
Drive Shaft
Rear End - should I pull the rear axles as well?
ECU
Wiring Harness
Fuel Pump

I believe that there may be a separate oil cooler to pull - can I get confirmation on this.
Are there any other "auxiliary" items in the engine compartment which are not a direct connect (bolt-on) but still should be pulled (ie: coil pack)?

Also, with what I am considering to be pulled, is there a concern that my car and the yard car are both S4 or S5 or is that a mute point with a complete swap such as this.

I have tried to read as much as possible (originally considered doing just a turbo conversion) but I have only been a board "watcher" for 8 months, a rotary owner for 6, and still wish to seek the wisdom of those much more versed than I am. Any input is greatly appreciated!

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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what is a gxl stock TII?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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GXL with a TII swap maybe, you might want to make sure it's an actual TII engine and drive train before you go buying it, would be a waste of money if all they swapped was the engine and left the driveline, or worse yet, put the turbo and such on an N/A motor.

There are lots of swap threads, more than enough for you to know what parts you need to get it done. Check rotary resurrection for a nice writeup and parts list as well.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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It took me 20 seconds of using the search engine to find multiple threads where this same question was asked. If you did in fact performed a search, you need to learn how to use a search engine easier. For example, I put in "tii swap parts" into the keyword search, and selectied this subforum along with the archive. About 6 threads down was a thread called "tii swap part list" or something like that, which is where we covered in high level of depth all the parts required for the swap, and that thread was only 2 or 3 weeks ago.

So search again, and look at the rotaryressurection page.

But other than that, you need a TII hood or FMIC, throttle cable, exhaust, half shafts, a boost gage of some type (not necessary but highly highly recommended), boost sensor, and everthing else that I can't remember.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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does it say gxl tii anywhere on the vehicle?

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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Confirmation needed for NA to TII swap - searched

what is a gxl stock TII?
I don't know.....probably why I said "(I think)" Like I said, I've only been around since early this year so I'm not completely familiar with all jargon. I appreciate your desire for accuracy / completeness.

It took me 20 seconds of using the search engine to find multiple threads where this same question was asked. If you did in fact performed a search, you need to learn how to use a search engine easier. For example, I put in "tii swap parts" into the keyword search, and selectied this subforum along with the archive. About 6 threads down was a thread called "tii swap part list" or something like that, which is where we covered in high level of depth all the parts required for the swap, and that thread was only 2 or 3 weeks ago.

So search again, and look at the rotaryressurection page.
the terms you used yielded better results. Thanks for the help. I'll be looking for the rotaryressurection page. Thanks again.

does it say gxl tii anywhere on the vehicle?
The weather here was complete crap today so I didn't get to do any work on it. I've been pressing the yard to pull the car out of the hole it's in so I can jack it up and start work - that way I'll know if it's just the turbo engine or the entire drive train. by stock TII GXL i mean that it is a stock Mazda turbo setup / engine and not an aftermarket setup. I'm pretty sure GXL is painted on the car although I don't believe that it is a stock paint job. I'll have more info next week.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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by stock TII GXL i mean that it is a stock Mazda turbo setup / engine and not an aftermarket setup. I'm pretty sure GXL is painted on the car although I don't believe that it is a stock paint job. I'll have more info next week.
Probably a swap then. Ask them if it ran before, and see if you can do a compression test on the motor.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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They stated that it did run - with electrical issues which I have pretty much assumed was what I dealt with then I purchased my car - and a matter or simply cleaning some grounds. But I will definitely take you up on the compression test suggestion. Thank you
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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They finally pulled it out of the hole it was in - I have this information to determine more about the car:

VIN: JM1FC3322J0628711
Date of Mfg: 08/88

I have to go figure out what these tell me......

Appears to be a stock TII model. I went back over the whole car as well as the info left by the previous owner and could not find any reference to GXL as stated before or GTU for that matter. Perhaps the VIN tells us something about that but I cannot confirm at this point. I'll keep searching.

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