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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Pics of Shot Struts

Finnaly its SHOT. My whole suspention is fked.. but the rear has lowered itself as if it where aftermarket, the rear are the biggest issue atm....... Stock struts 14 years old, at 81,123 have failed me..now my dd had to go into a suspended state of animation because i got dont have any $$ atm for the ones i want..so anyone know some one selling used ones?

heres how it looks like






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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Wow, it definitely looks slammed. I'm running the Tokico Illuminas and love them, not to mention Tokico's customer service is by far the best I've come in contact with.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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They were sooooo tired.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Struts/shocks don't hold your car up. Your springs are settling and you probably have numerous shot bushings.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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whell the car just bounces and i dont have any $ for the ones i want but some one is selling a set of r1 ones
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Isint not having money and owing a Financial Disaster a bad idea?

Since shocks aren't the ones holding the car up I think it's probably dead springs\bushings too.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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That's the worst I have ever seen for sure. The majority of the problem is probably the upper shock mounts, the rubber compresses a LOT over the years. I guess your springs might be sagging as well, a blown shock shouldn't change your ride height at all.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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yea some i know i need diff mounts, Cars going to be hibernating now untill i find a job.!!!
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Old May 10, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
.....so anyone know some one selling used ones?
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ock+suspension
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=miles

Both are pretty recent and don't indicate that they're sold.
And fix that wheel stud too! It's not a Honda.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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your 235/45/17 tires are 25.3 inches high. it appears that your fender lip is approx 25 inches from the ground.

i recommend running a 25 inch ride height front and rear for max street/track performance. if you run stock springs your car should be running at approx 27 inches in the front and rear.

the rubber pad at between the spring and the body is at most 1/2 inch thick. while it may have aged it isn't your problem. the rear spring rides on a bolt thru the upper A arm. that's not your problem. the lower control arm connects outboard w a bolt. not a problem. there are two rubber bushings one forward and one inboard. due to the negative leverage they are also not your problem.

the shock has no effect on ride height. (o k, it supports 13 pounds due to the nitrogen charge). BTW, the FD does not have "struts." toyotas have struts. the FD has spring and shocks like real racecars.

that eliminates everything but the spring. are you certain that you have stock FD springs in the car?

i have had a shock dyno and a digital spring rate checker.... i have tested over 30 stock FD shocks. all but one tested EXACTLY the same. they ranged from 3000 original miles to over 100,000 miles.

i have tested lots of FD springs. they all tested the same.

if for some reason you have the some weird springs in the car it is possible for the springs to not support the shock and the shock could have bottomed out which would destroy it and lead to "bouncing." a damaged shock will not effect ride height.

unless your wheel offset is wrong a 25 inch ride height w proper rated springs will not damage your tires. my wife's FD runs Eibach springs at very close to 25 inches, w a 17 X10 SSR wheel and 275 tires. no problem w the stock shocks which work great BTW.

so your problem is w your springs... and that may have damaged your shocks. the OEM shocks work great and there should be tons around if you advertise in the classifieds. as to your shocks.... you should be able to get a set for shipping. check first to see if you have hydraulic fluid leaking out of the top of the shock body. then, remove them and see if they still have their gas pressure. check also for resistance in stroke.

keep us posted and good luck,

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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by howard coleman
your 235/45/17 tires are 25.3 inches high. it appears that your fender lip is approx 25 inches from the ground.

i recommend running a 25 inch ride height front and rear for max street/track performance. if you run stock springs your car should be running at approx 27 inches in the front and rear.

the rubber pad at between the spring and the body is at most 1/2 inch thick. while it may have aged it isn't your problem. the rear spring rides on a bolt thru the upper A arm. that's not your problem. the lower control arm connects outboard w a bolt. not a problem. there are two rubber bushings one forward and one inboard. due to the negative leverage they are also not your problem.

the shock has no effect on ride height. (o k, it supports 13 pounds due to the nitrogen charge). BTW, the FD does not have "struts." toyotas have struts. the FD has spring and shocks like real racecars.

that eliminates everything but the spring. are you certain that you have stock FD springs in the car?

i have had a shock dyno and a digital spring rate checker.... i have tested over 30 stock FD shocks. all but one tested EXACTLY the same. they ranged from 3000 original miles to over 100,000 miles.

i have tested lots of FD springs. they all tested the same.

if for some reason you have the some weird springs in the car it is possible for the springs to not support the shock and the shock could have bottomed out which would destroy it and lead to "bouncing." a damaged shock will not effect ride height.

unless your wheel offset is wrong a 25 inch ride height w proper rated springs will not damage your tires. my wife's FD runs Eibach springs at very close to 25 inches, w a 17 X10 SSR wheel and 275 tires. no problem w the stock shocks which work great BTW.

so your problem is w your springs... and that may have damaged your shocks. the OEM shocks work great and there should be tons around if you advertise in the classifieds. as to your shocks.... you should be able to get a set for shipping. check first to see if you have hydraulic fluid leaking out of the top of the shock body. then, remove them and see if they still have their gas pressure. check also for resistance in stroke.

keep us posted and good luck,

howard coleman

yes im sure its stock iv had the car for 2 in a half years and i would remeber the hight of the car.. it is stock. car my rotary mech even said so
the ride is very very rough and i feel everything not like when i first got the car
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Old May 10, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
yes im sure its stock iv had the car for 2 in a half years and i would remeber the hight of the car.. it is stock. car my rotary mech even said so
the ride is very very rough and i feel everything not like when i first got the car
Perhaps it would be a good idea to thank Howard after he took the time to type all of that in an effort to help you
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Old May 10, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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i suggest you advertise in the classifieds for a set of stock springs and shocks. most people throw them in the back of their shop after upgrading. you should be able to get a set for shipping costs if you work at it. stipulate no hydraulic leakage on the shocks. if you wish you could probably snag a set of Eibach Pro Kit springs which work great w the stock shocks and are not harsh riding. probable cost $100 and worth it.

howard
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Thanks Howard!
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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I'll sell you my OEM shocks and springs. $25?
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Old May 12, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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pics from around when i first got the car





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Old May 12, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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conceptually it seems blown shocks shouldn't affect ride height.

in practice however, it seems to do exactly just that.
a local on blown k-sports had his rear left corner dumped like all hell.
not to mention the numerous janky ghetto cars that drive around jersey with bouncing rear ends.

at any rate, if you can't afford some new shocks... i dunno how you pay car insurance and stuff. money must be tight. good luck man.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aznpoopy
conceptually it seems blown shocks shouldn't affect ride height.

in practice however, it seems to do exactly just that.
a local on blown k-sports had his rear left corner dumped like all hell.
not to mention the numerous janky ghetto cars that drive around jersey with bouncing rear ends.

at any rate, if you can't afford some new shocks... i dunno how you pay car insurance and stuff. money must be tight. good luck man.

im prob getting used ones from a fourm member but not that i cheaked the car had risen a little and is not as low in the pics first posted.. but i have $ for the car just no 1k extra just sitting around for the coilovers i want
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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ok whell i havent heard from the other fourm members that where suppose to sell me the suspension so if anyone else has a set that they want to get rid of pm me
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