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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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ROADSIDE SMOG TESTER -Tustin - Wed 9/30

Theres a roadside testing machihne that appears to be randomly pulling people in to test them - they waved my 99 Dakota by, but I aint going back with the RX-7

Its on Prospect street, heading north, just past 4th st/Irvine Blvd

Right in front of the Baseball fields for Columbus Tustin School




Thank you, Please DON'T drive through...
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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They pulled that crap on my GF in her 96 200 sx!!! She was already lateand giving the CHP officer a hard time, he told her it wasnt manditory, just a servey, but he also wouldn't let her leave either?!. I think he was full of ****, but either way there was a smog tech that popped the hood, removed her air filter, and told her a K&N filter was NOT smog legal. He said it was missing a imprinted bar code!!! She didnt get a ticket of anything, but the are becoming more common. I would bet 100 the the info is sent to the state if you dont pass, but I dont know.BTW it was in the city of Torrance for her, about 3 months ago I guess.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Once again the war on smog has elevated...

Good looking out guys.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Where in Torrance socalrotor? What street and time? I've never seen them out there before.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Where in Torrance socalrotor? What street and time? I've never seen them out there before.
It was on the BAD *** section on VAN NESS BLVD between 190th and del Amo. Looks like a straight drag strip, but there is motorcycle cops there ALL THE TIME. the time was 11am I remember because it was a dentist appt. I think it was a tuesday.

Jeff @ Rotary Power told me about his fun with the smog dyno too. I think it is a middle of the day/ light traffic when they do it.

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Not trying to start a flamewar, but the LS1 is something to consider if smog is a concern... Mine is 100% legal as an engine swap, and I never have to fear smog, ever.

I could bolt on a ATI supercharger and see 450 smog legal rwhp too.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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I wonder how many ******* times I have posted this. I went ahead and highlighted the important portions for the reading impaired. Have a nice day.


The California Department of Consumer Affairs/Bureau of Automotive Repair (DCA/BAR) and California Highway Patrol (CHP) conduct the state’s roadside vehicle emissions survey. The survey's purpose is to provide a "real world" profile of emissions from California’s cars and trucks. The data is used to help measure California's Smog Check program by determining statewide emissions levels and monitoring those levels over time. In addition, the survey is necessary to demonstrate to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency that California's Smog Check program meets federal emissions reduction requirements for ozone-forming pollution generated by motor vehicles. The study also evaluates various emissions testing procedures. California motorists have been participating in state-operated roadside emissions surveys since 1972.

The study is conducted in phases by four teams, who together visit over 300 locations around the state every year. The sites are chosen by first randomly selecting ZIP codes and then determining sites that are safe for conducting the tests.

At each site, one lane of traffic is coned off for testing equipment. A CHP officer directs randomly-selected vehicles to that lane.

Motorists whose vehicles are selected for testing are greeted by a BAR representative who provides them with information about the survey's purpose and answers any questions they might have. Although participation in the survey is not mandatory; it is critical to the success of the survey. The BAR representative will do everything possible to accommodate motorists who are selected for the survey.

The emissions survey tests vehicles on a treadmill-like device called a dynamometer that is now being used to conduct Smog Check inspections in the state’s smoggiest regions. By simulating driving conditions, dynamometers provide the most accurate emissions readings for hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO), and oxides of nitrogen (NOx).

Vehicles are tested solely for the purpose of gathering data. They do not "pass" or "fail" the roadside emissions tests, so these tests add no additional repair requirements for drivers of high-polluting vehicles. The procedure usually lasts less than 10 minutes.

At the conclusion of each test, the driver receives a Vehicle Inspection Report (VIR) detailing the results. The report may not be substituted for a vehicle's official Smog Check.

In some locations, vehicles may also pass by a Remote Sensing Device (RSD), which uses infrared technology to measure vehicle emissions. The data gathered from the RSDs at these sites is also used only for research purposes.
http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/StdPage....y-Sep_2001.htm
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Ive done one of these roadsides in my vanagon, which I knew would fail a bi annual smog check, and was just sent on my way.
I like breathing so I wouldnt mind if they did hassel the gross polluters out there.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Sure a lot of people would fail, but what if I rolled on by and they popped my hood to find a bunch of mods...and can smell my wonderful rotary exhaust with no cats? They can't just let me go about my merry way...
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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1: Any correlation between a negative survey on your car, and on your next bi-annual smog being required to go to a Test-Only-Center?

2: How come when driving through the infrared sensor Remote Sensor they take a picture of your license plate? Any correlation with that and required to got to a Test-Only-Center next biannual smog?

3: How come the 200SX above was not allowed to leave it it is voluntary?

4: Where can I see the results of the research?
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:24 AM
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I've been required to go to TEST ONLY for the last 3 times (Bi-annuals), when am I getting off this bus??
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveFast7

3: How come the 200SX above was not allowed to leave it it is voluntary?
I don't really take any information seriously by that n00b socalrotor
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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I don't really take any information seriously by that n00b socalrotor
Your a hater.
BTW I joined 2 months after you idiot (9-03). Sorry I am not a post *****. Another dumbass cop wasting my time. Your lame and narrow-minded, get over it.

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Damn, I was owned. I don't care if you joined in '96. You are still a n00b.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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How about an answer to the questions? You sir are guilty of fallacious reasoning.
1. Evading the issue.
2. Ad Hominem. (though not direct but still)

Avoiding the issue is a major Fallacy among politicians and Law enforcement officers. And Socal you fell into the trap my friend.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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How about an answer to the questions? You sir are guilty of fallacious reasoning.
1. Evading the issue.
2. Ad Hominem. (though not direct but still)

Avoiding the issue is a major Fallacy among politicians and Law enforcement officers. And Socal you fell into the trap my friend.
What the hell are you talking about? I am not associated with the state at all. If you are so gun-ho on seeing the results, why don't you contact the right resources. All I did was quote a state website explaining the tests.


But I imagine that website falls into your conspiracy theory so it doesn't count.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
What the hell are you talking about? I am not associated with the state at all. If you are so gun-ho on seeing the results, why don't you contact the right resources. All I did was quote a state website explaining the tests.


But I imagine that website falls into your conspiracy theory so it doesn't count.
Those words sound funny to you do they? Hmm...
I didn't say you had anything to do with any group, state, or agency for whatever that's worth. There is no implication or reason to lead to a conclusion that I or anyone on here is talking about conspiracy. So what the hell are you talking about?

All I'm saying is your discussing a topic, (seems like your on the defending side, not to mention a little annoyed) and attacking someone personally has no valid argumentative ground. Instead of answering the question, you belittle someone and by doing so you also change the subject. Resulting in you not having to answer the questions. That is what I said in my previous post. Sorry I confused you.

I am not the one who asked the questions. So I am not the Gun-Ho person you sought me out to be. I was just saying, you didn't answer his questions. Not one.


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All I did was quote a state website explaining the tests.
In other words. You don't know. You just copied and pasted. You should have stated that in your post along with your "quotes". Kind of sounded like you knew what you were talking about. Sorry, our mistake I guess.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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You are looking way far into this. This is the WEST SECTION. When insults are flying, they are usually in good fun. So don't come in here out of thin air and pass judgements. You will know when insults are genuine around here.


I am used to these clowns around here jumping down my throat when I post contradicting information. It happens all of the time. The funny part is, I am ridiculed when I post actual information from a government webiste when all the other information is just word-of-mouth. I guess it is because the goverment lies to the public so much.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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[QUOTE=Fumanchu] You are looking way far into this. This is the WEST SECTION. When insults are flying, they are usually in good fun. You will know when insults are genuine around here.[quote/]

To far? We just want an answer. How is that to far? Is the WEST SECTION different from another section. I missed the sticky.

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So don't come in here out of thin air and pass judgements.
What are you implying here? That because I don't post as much as you my opinion should not be expressed? I have not judged you in any way. I don't even know you. I just made an observation.

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I am used to these clowns around here jumping down my throat when I post contradicting information. It happens all of the time. The funny part is, I am ridiculed when I post actual information from a government webiste when all the other information is just word-of-mouth. I guess it is because the goverment lies to the public so much.
I don't know if your being sarcastic or what. Is that also a quote; the government lying to people all the time. Your the one looking to far into this. Understand that all I said was that by "joking" around you didn't answer any questions, Socal not being creditable is not an answer. That's it. Nothing else. No government lies, no conspiracy, not accusing you of belonging to any association or group. Nothing. Just as usual the thread is taken in a different direction. I see it happening more than it should.

Back to topic: I have never seen one of these. What should one look for? And also, I mean if we don't know its there and driving that way its too late already. I'm sure if they where taking pics of the plates its for more than just research. Unless they're studying the affect of emission on the alloy of the plate. Hmm its holding up pretty well.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by xzyras
How about an answer to the questions? You sir are guilty of fallacious reasoning.
1. Evading the issue.
2. Ad Hominem. (though not direct but still)

Avoiding the issue is a major Fallacy among politicians and Law enforcement officers. And Socal you fell into the trap my friend.
This is on-topic? Wierd.

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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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And this is:
Originally Posted by Fumanchu
I don't really take any information seriously by that n00b socalrotor
How about this:
Originally Posted by Fumanchu
Damn, I was owned. I don't care if you joined in '96. You are still a n00b.

hmm... Your reaching there buddy. What I said was after all this. Clearly not on topic, and understand what you read. I was saying that you are not staying on topic. Dear God... you scratch your head anymore and your going to give yourself have a bald spot.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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And this is:


How about this:



hmm... Your reaching there buddy. What I said was after all this. Clearly not on topic, and understand what you read. I was saying that you are not staying on topic. Dear God... you scratch your head anymore and your going to give yourself have a bald spot.
Since you have decided to be the internet commando today, I will continue with this conversation. This thread is already dead and the topic has been beaten to death a dozen times in here.


What I am trying to explain to you is, throwing jabs back and forth is what we do here in this section. If it bothers you so much that you have to call everybody on it, then I suggest you go to another forum. Yes, I threw a jab at "socalrotor." He throws them at me. It was done at that point, until you made this claim about me. "Avoiding the issue is a major Fallacy among politicians and Law enforcement officers."


So give me a ******* break. In any case, I can come into any thread I damn well please and insult who I want. I do not need to check in with you before I do so.








Glad to see we have a new tool in the West Section that we can have fun with. Enjoy your stay.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu

What I am trying to explain to you is, throwing jabs back and forth is what we do here in this section. If it bothers you so much that you have to call everybody on it, then I suggest you go to another forum. Yes, I threw a jab at "socalrotor." He throws them at me. It was done at that point, until you made this claim about me. "Avoiding the issue is a major Fallacy among politicians and Law enforcement officers."
I wasn't calling you a politician you ignorant fool. You clearly lack the education to even understand them on CNN.

Originally Posted by Fumanchu
So give me a ******* break. In any case, I can come into any thread I damn well please and insult who I want. I do not need to check in with you before I do so.
Well aren't you a swell fellow! If that's the case, why are you so upset that I am here? I didn't know you owned the forum? Why would you say such a thing?

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Glad to see we have a new tool in the West Section that we can have fun with. Enjoy your stay.
I've been here longer than you think. So now I'm a tool huh? Haha, hey You spelled WEIRD wrong! Doesn't your computer have spell check, or do you not know how to use it? Maybe we can get a monkey to teach you how. I guess your teachers really screwed you up with that I before E crap. I'm sure they meant well!

Sorry about your thread! This is what people find when they search...
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Gotta love the west section, most every thread turns into an argument about something
It's not my fault we are attached to Nor Cal. Thats where all the winners come from.
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