SSAutoChrome Turbo's Suck!!! Check this.
12-31-04, 11:49 AM
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SSAutoChrome Turbo's Suck!!! Check this.
Just wanted to let you guys see something my roomate found having to do with the turbo's that SSAutoChrome (the company on ebay) sells. I can only hope there was something wrong with this from the get go... maybe horribly remanufactured or something. Glued together????
12-31-04, 06:51 PM
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What a piece of ****...
You can see the SHITTY machining of the compressor fins - there are ridges along the trailing edges of the fins!
I've never seen crap like that until now.
As for the compressor housing to backing plate seal, it's actually normal to find some kinda sealant there.
Now, the mating surface between the compressor housing and the backing plate is a whole nother story - that looks just plain nasty!
I'm still waiting for all those suckers who bought those "T70"'s bragging about how good of a deal for a 500hp turbo they just bought.
Funny, I haven't seen any of them come back.
Seriously folks, you get what you pay for, and I've been preaching the SSautochrome / Stone Racing / Master Power stuff is CRAP.
I don't see ANY balancing grinds on the nut or top of the compressor wheel.
I doubt you'd see any under the wheel if you took the compressor wheel off.
This mean those bitches don't balance their ****.
THANX for posting those pics!
-Ted
You can see the SHITTY machining of the compressor fins - there are ridges along the trailing edges of the fins!
I've never seen crap like that until now.
As for the compressor housing to backing plate seal, it's actually normal to find some kinda sealant there.
Now, the mating surface between the compressor housing and the backing plate is a whole nother story - that looks just plain nasty!
I'm still waiting for all those suckers who bought those "T70"'s bragging about how good of a deal for a 500hp turbo they just bought.
Funny, I haven't seen any of them come back.
Seriously folks, you get what you pay for, and I've been preaching the SSautochrome / Stone Racing / Master Power stuff is CRAP.
I don't see ANY balancing grinds on the nut or top of the compressor wheel.
I doubt you'd see any under the wheel if you took the compressor wheel off.
This mean those bitches don't balance their ****.
THANX for posting those pics!
-Ted
12-31-04, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
What a piece of ****...
You can see the SHITTY machining of the compressor fins - there are ridges along the trailing edges of the fins!
I've never seen crap like that until now.
As for the compressor housing to backing plate seal, it's actually normal to find some kinda sealant there.
Now, the mating surface between the compressor housing and the backing plate is a whole nother story - that looks just plain nasty!
I'm still waiting for all those suckers who bought those "T70"'s bragging about how good of a deal for a 500hp turbo they just bought.
Funny, I haven't seen any of them come back.
Seriously folks, you get what you pay for, and I've been preaching the SSautochrome / Stone Racing / Master Power stuff is CRAP.
I don't see ANY balancing grinds on the nut or top of the compressor wheel.
I doubt you'd see any under the wheel if you took the compressor wheel off.
This mean those bitches don't balance their ****.
THANX for posting those pics!
-Ted
You can see the SHITTY machining of the compressor fins - there are ridges along the trailing edges of the fins!
I've never seen crap like that until now.
As for the compressor housing to backing plate seal, it's actually normal to find some kinda sealant there.
Now, the mating surface between the compressor housing and the backing plate is a whole nother story - that looks just plain nasty!
I'm still waiting for all those suckers who bought those "T70"'s bragging about how good of a deal for a 500hp turbo they just bought.
Funny, I haven't seen any of them come back.
Seriously folks, you get what you pay for, and I've been preaching the SSautochrome / Stone Racing / Master Power stuff is CRAP.
I don't see ANY balancing grinds on the nut or top of the compressor wheel.
I doubt you'd see any under the wheel if you took the compressor wheel off.
This mean those bitches don't balance their ****.
THANX for posting those pics!
-Ted
it is still holding together well the manifold needed a lot of welding and redoing the flanges but the turbo seems to be boosting well for now.
12-31-04, 09:13 PM
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Am I seeing that right... the compressor housing split in half? At first I just thought it was removed from the backing plate, but it looks to be literally split in half. That may explain the ridges on the compressor wheel (contact with housing), too.
-Max
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12-31-04, 09:17 PM
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I heard from a reputable source that this is BS. Look at the comp wheel, that damage is from bearing failure. The housing is basically a display peice that been cut for "display". The "internet" is the culprit there.
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12-31-04, 09:53 PM
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I heard from a reputable source that this is BS. Look at the comp wheel, that damage is from bearing failure. The housing is basically a display peice that been cut for "display". The "internet" is the culprit there.
I do believe that this is a legitimate failure and that there is alot of shitty workmanship going on here. I am sure the turbos design's may have some legitimacy however the machining they are using is shitty at best.
But feel free to prove me wrong, Your reputable source can prove it to me or you but so far nothing is clear nor does it back up your statement from what I can tell.
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Originally Posted by jreynish
there is no possible way that those fins could have an edge on the gate edge of the Compressor to be perfect like that due to a bearring failure that is shotty machining. it is also on both the top and bottom of the fin if it was due to bearring failure then it would be only one way. The housing doens't appear to be cut, with any conventional means, I mean a plasma cutter would have left little beads a cutting torch is dirty a bandsaw is clean and would not have the edges same with a hacksaw. So please enlighten me why it is that that break (seam) is so dirty, if it was cut.. Also there is no possible way that it could have been cut soo perfectly to leave the machined edge like that.
I do believe that this is a legitimate failure and that there is alot of shitty workmanship going on here. I am sure the turbos design's may have some legitimacy however the machining they are using is shitty at best.
But feel free to prove me wrong, Your reputable source can prove it to me or you but so far nothing is clear nor does it back up your statement from what I can tell.
I do believe that this is a legitimate failure and that there is alot of shitty workmanship going on here. I am sure the turbos design's may have some legitimacy however the machining they are using is shitty at best.
But feel free to prove me wrong, Your reputable source can prove it to me or you but so far nothing is clear nor does it back up your statement from what I can tell.
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Originally Posted by Gargamel
our local garrett dealer has them cut in half just like that one, for display purposes only. The only side of the wheel that's damaged is the trailing edge. Bad bearing.
You are right about the wheel as well, I just did a service route on a bunch of turbo diesel machines, and a couple of the engines have bad turbos , and the damaged wheels , suprise suprise, look just like that, thats not a machining error..
Its not correct to have sealant on the backing plate, its a machined fit, and affects the wheel to housing fit and clearance, sealant has no place on a turbo...
Its also not uncomon to see no balancing marks on the compressor nut or wheel, sometimes the wieght is cut off the turbine end of instead, where the materials tend to be heavier.
If memory serves, Garretts largest plants are in Brazil and Mexico...
I think whats happening, is the patents for the older frames of turbos has expired and garrett is selling off the tooling for the older turbos, some bought it up and is making these things, you could probably rebuild that turbo as well using all genuine garrett parts I bet...
01-03-05, 01:52 AM
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Interesting reponses...
The "seam" looks glued all the way up.
This doesn't make sense for a display?
Is this some kinda disasterous failure and the turbo was reassembled with glue?
Whatever the case...it stinks.
Too bad they couldn't take a pic of the backside of the comp housing!
-Ted
The "seam" looks glued all the way up.
This doesn't make sense for a display?
Is this some kinda disasterous failure and the turbo was reassembled with glue?
Whatever the case...it stinks.
Too bad they couldn't take a pic of the backside of the comp housing!
-Ted
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Nah at some point in time when it was probably sitting on a counter, they got sick of the front half falling onto the floor everytime someone started playing with the turbo...
The garrett displays are done just like that, for the reason that if it was cut instead of crack on the seam, the wheel would not turn, as the cut would make the whole housing thinner, and wheel that doesnt turn isnt very fun to play with...Lets just say its a "stunt" turbo, for those who have seen Orgasmo, they know what I mean...Max
The garrett displays are done just like that, for the reason that if it was cut instead of crack on the seam, the wheel would not turn, as the cut would make the whole housing thinner, and wheel that doesnt turn isnt very fun to play with...Lets just say its a "stunt" turbo, for those who have seen Orgasmo, they know what I mean...Max
