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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 05:20 PM
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Orange Antifreeze...Good or Bad?

I had the super-high performance-high temp-special-orange-cool aid looking crap...I only used it because I had it. Anyway, I just rememberd reading something about how its not good for the seals...Is this true? Anyone have any insight to this? Thanks.

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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I heard that it was good, then someone here said it was for lazy people who never change their antifreeze, don't know.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is GM's Dexcool stuff.. everything I've read and heard said it should not be put into an engine that wasn't designed for the stuff. Something about the additives and stuff in it like to munch on seals not intended for it...

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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My VW ('02) came with it in the stock system. Per the service manual its like never to be changed. Odd. And NEVER put the green stuff in with it.

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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The only benefit I know of is that its eco friendly.. Meaning it wont kill your kitty cat

Id say use the green stuff, the world needs fewer cats
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 07:43 PM
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My VW ('02) came with it in the stock system. Per the service manual its like never to be changed. Odd. And NEVER put the green stuff in with it.

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Yeah you never wanna mix the 2. Green with the orange is bad.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
The only benefit I know of is that its eco friendly.. Meaning it wont kill your kitty cat

Id say use the green stuff, the world needs fewer cats
Ah ha! I cat hater are we..... I see. Well.... I happen to like cats! In fact my kitty buddy is sit'n next to my computer as I type this.

Aaaanyway..... yes, anti-freeze seems to be rather delicious and deadly to animals, yes, cats included. If what MIKE-P-28 says is correct and you like your pets, then use the orange stuff.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is GM's Dexcool stuff.. everything I've read and heard said it should not be put into an engine that wasn't designed for the stuff. Something about the additives and stuff in it like to munch on seals not intended for it...

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Yeah, thats the stuff. I was worried, but since my water pump is messed, Ill just drain the system, flush it, and re-fill it with the green stuff after I fix the water pump.

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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Ah ha! I cat hater are we..... I see. Well.... I happen to like cats! In fact my kitty buddy is sit'n next to my computer as I type this.

Aaaanyway..... yes, anti-freeze seems to be rather delicious and deadly to animals, yes, cats included. If what MIKE-P-28 says is correct and you like your pets, then use the orange stuff.
I used to like cats until one f^%ked up my convertible top!!! next time i see one of them walking on one of my cars it will be drawn and quartered !
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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Cats are cool Squirrels, chipmunks and other rodents are also attracted to the "sweet" smell of the antifreeze.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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The orange stuff is supposed to be less corrosive to alluminum, as well as non-lethal to pets and indigenous wild life
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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if i were you i would stick with the green, and change it about every 30k miles. i recycle antifreeze for a living, the toyota orange we make i just as lethal as the green. dexcool sucks, my 96 chevy truck is converted from dexcool to straight up antifreeze because the water pump kept ****** up.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 11:13 PM
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The colour of an antifreeze or coolant do not have any real relationship to being toxic or not that I am aware of. Toxicity levels change with what chemicals are being used to make the coolant. Standard green antifreeze (the toxic stuff) is usually a ethylene glycol based antifreeze while the "environmentally safe" or low tox coolants are propylene glycol based. Some examples of lower toxicity coolants are those made by Sierra and Prestone's Low Tox. Thanks.

Kyle

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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Here's the deal on coolants. The green stuff reacts with Dex-Cool (the GM extended life coolant) and aluminum and forms deposites and corrosion very quickly. On the lable of all GM cars equiped with Dex-Cool it says to only add Dex-Cool compatible coolants.

When GM first started using this coolant, the brilliant owners of these vehicals, and the highly educated, idependant "Quicky-Lube" lubrication technician that work on them began adding ethyl-glycol based coolant to these cooling systems, completely ignoring the clearly printed warning lable. Well Dex-cool mixed with the green stuff inside of the aluminium cylinder heads of the GM vehicals, resulted in alot of over heating motors. Usually replaced by the "Quickly Lube"that Bob and Shurly paid to flush the radiator at 15,000 miles. Because that is when the highly educated lubrication technician recomended it be done.

If you are lubrication technician please take you job seriously and be sure you are recomending the proper service to the proper client. If you do your own work be sure you know what were doing.

FYI I'm in a bad mood right now.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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I just thought it to be odd that the NEXT DAY that I put that stuff in there, my water pump started leaking...I just got it road worthy, bought that stuff and put into a dry system. Drove it to the state patrol for inspection and home to lynwood and one other place in Woodinville. Total about 75 miles. Anyway, the next morning, the water pump is holding water about as well as a coffee filter...

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