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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Cool how to shoot flames

what seems to be the setting that promotes flames from the tailpipe?

i remember seeing a video of someone doing it, i have a high flow cat + cat back, so I'm not sure if it will still do it, but i'm running the base map right now

i can see this question going two ways, either i get flamed for this, or it's too complicated for me to do
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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First you need a mid-pipe.
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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i have a high flow cat, that wouldn't work would it
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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I hate to tell you but you need a midpipe to do it.
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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well, assume i have a midpipe....so we can archive this one for when i do get one
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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I think what you are talking about back fire on engines. Every engine back fires at some time. You don't see the fire when having the cat because it blocks it. At the same time you are killing your cat. I think also it fire created from un lit fuel....so if your car is rich (not too rich) and the timing is aggressive, MAJOR back fire will occur...

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Just go to your Commander and change the rpm settings, there is a setting that specifies when the fuel injectors come back on during decel. Raise it up to 7000 rpm and you should set the road on fire behind you when you let off the throttle! Take care not to kill yourself or others, you're responsible.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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i have a cat yet i get alot of back FIRE! and i don't even hace any ecu! maybe my car's just retarded
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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twokrx7, Will it be safe to raise the rpm to 7000 and not kill the engine ? Would like to see some flames but is it dangerous ??????
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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There are two ways of creating more flames from your FD. The one you want has already been stated. Go into settings then the one labeled RPM Settings. Now the first three settings are the ones you want for this. They dictate went the injectors come back on after a coast down when in gear. The ECU does this in every car for fuel savings/emissions. Now you can set this to redline (8000ish) so they never cut off. So with little air and retarded timing unburnt fuel spews forth. If you have a Cat it will consume some of it, thus why it helps to have a mid pipe but you can still do it with a cat. Any way the three settings are for (in order top to bottom) no electrical load (no alternator on) With electrical load (with alternator on) and with A/C on. Just turn them all up to 8k and volia flames. This does not hurt your motor/turbos at all. Your bumper will melt if you do it alot (seen it on other cars before) The other way is the anti-lag method, similar but much harder on the turbos. Sorry so long but the other answers were just parts of the puzzle.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Whats the anti-lag method?
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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Where is the RPM setting inthe Commander? I don't see anything that says that.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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If you cannot find these settings on the PFC then you should probably not mess with them or any others for that matter.

Page 33 of the manual, the screen is called Rev/Idle from the menu, look for the F/C settings ...

The anti lag is only available thru the Datalogit.
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Old Mar 15, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by 7 eleven
Go into settings then the one labeled RPM Settings.
I couldn't find them because they are NOT labeled RPM Settings. That doesn't mean I'm too stupid to mess with the Commander.

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Old Mar 15, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by radkins
I couldn't find them because they are NOT labeled RPM Settings. That doesn't mean I'm too stupid to mess with the Commander.
When were you called stupid? Looks like he was only helping...
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 04:36 AM
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shinobi, i believe he was refering to tworwork??
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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my mistake

I was going off the top of my head. It is labeled rev/idle on the commander. In the manual they also use rpm setting to refer to those functions. Sorry for the mix up.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by radkins
Whats the anti-lag method?
Anti Lag System or Misfiring System. Like the ones rally cars use.
It basically injects fuel into your exhaust manifold when you let go of the throttle. That creates lil explosions within your exhaust manifold. Sometimes you can see fire coming out of the exhaust. It also makes a lot of noise (why it's also called the "bang bang" system.That will keep the turbo(s) spinning even when you are not on the throttle. That decreases lag. It increase wear on your exhaust manifold though.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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it will cut the turbos life by half

from what i've read
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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I got a midpipe and i've been told of shooting 3 foot flames. So far its my favorite mod.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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oooh boy i cant wait till i get my car runnin again 3 foot flames lol then i can get in the new fast and furious .... but seriously i want flames lol
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:11 AM
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I had flames come out with a main cat.

one of my rotors had a fouled plug.......... i'll let u figure out how that could have happened and the correlation......
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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mmmm flamage
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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Thanks for the tip 7 eleven. I just got a midpipe installed, and am looking forward to shotting flames out of my RB dual tip hee hee BTW, does the rpm have to be set to 8000 rpm? Seems high. How about 7000 rpm? BTW, will my gas mileage decrease with fuel spewing into the exhaust upon deceleration everytime? Are there any downsides to this?
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There are two ways of creating more flames from your FD. The one you want has already been stated. Go into settings then the one labeled RPM Settings. Now the first three settings are the ones you want for this. They dictate went the injectors come back on after a coast down when in gear. The ECU does this in every car for fuel savings/emissions. Now you can set this to redline (8000ish) so they never cut off. So with little air and retarded timing unburnt fuel spews forth. If you have a Cat it will consume some of it, thus why it helps to have a mid pipe but you can still do it with a cat. Any way the three settings are for (in order top to bottom) no electrical load (no alternator on) With electrical load (with alternator on) and with A/C on. Just turn them all up to 8k and volia flames. This does not hurt your motor/turbos at all. Your bumper will melt if you do it alot (seen it on other cars before) Enjoy

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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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I bumped the rev/idle to 7500 rpm, but am not sure if my car is shooting flames? Is it possible with a Racing Beat Dual Tip catback (I have a DP/MP)?
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