How much does stuff weigh?
03-03-01, 12:20 AM
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How much does stuff weigh?
Ever really wondered what stuff weighs???
Detail are at:  http://www.k2rd.com/FC3S/weigh.html
1989 GTUs rims (two measured): used, both include valve stems and balancing weights = 17.10# / 17.05#
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GAB 16"x7" rims: new, silver, normal center, +32mm offset = 15.20#
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1987 Turbo II stock pre-cat - used, O2 sensor attached = 13.50#
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1987 non-turbo stock exhaust manifold - used = 16.75#
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1987 Turbo II stock spare tire and rim - 24.85#
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1987 Turbo II stock turbo: used, dirty, NO lines except for rubber lines on wastegate = 21.70#
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Aluminum flywheel: used, stamped "MI" (Mueller Industry/Midway Industry?), NO counterweight, NO fasteners = 10.25#
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1987 Turbo II stock flywheels (two measured): used, NO fasteners = 27.55# / 27.40#
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1987 Turbo II stock front brake rotor: used, 10.9" (Mazda spec, NOT measured), rotor width measured at 5 different positions (5 lug positions) average 21.174mm (actual measured are 21.16mm, 21.18mm, 21.19mm, 21.18mm, 21.16mm; +/- 0.1mm) [Note: Mazda spec new is 22.00mm], used = 12.25#
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K2RD Stage 1 brake kit rotor: 12.19" x 1.25", new, two piece steel rotor with aluminum hat, fasteners (safety wired) included = 11.40#
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Racing Beat 3" downpipe: used, NO fasteners = 6.50#
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Nippon Denso AC compressor: used, dirty, no fittings but black plastic caps on valves attached = 14.90#
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1987 Turbo II stock steel hood: used, windshield spray nozzles and hoses attached, all underhood insulation and front rubber flaps attached, 5A blue paint = 51.85#
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1987 Turbo II stock aluminum hood: used, NO windshield spray nozzles or hoses, all underhood insulation and front rubber flaps attached, hood stripped (NO primer base) and repainted yellow = 29.20#
-Ted
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Detail are at:  http://www.k2rd.com/FC3S/weigh.html
1989 GTUs rims (two measured): used, both include valve stems and balancing weights = 17.10# / 17.05#
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GAB 16"x7" rims: new, silver, normal center, +32mm offset = 15.20#
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1987 Turbo II stock pre-cat - used, O2 sensor attached = 13.50#
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1987 non-turbo stock exhaust manifold - used = 16.75#
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1987 Turbo II stock spare tire and rim - 24.85#
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1987 Turbo II stock turbo: used, dirty, NO lines except for rubber lines on wastegate = 21.70#
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Aluminum flywheel: used, stamped "MI" (Mueller Industry/Midway Industry?), NO counterweight, NO fasteners = 10.25#
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1987 Turbo II stock flywheels (two measured): used, NO fasteners = 27.55# / 27.40#
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1987 Turbo II stock front brake rotor: used, 10.9" (Mazda spec, NOT measured), rotor width measured at 5 different positions (5 lug positions) average 21.174mm (actual measured are 21.16mm, 21.18mm, 21.19mm, 21.18mm, 21.16mm; +/- 0.1mm) [Note: Mazda spec new is 22.00mm], used = 12.25#
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K2RD Stage 1 brake kit rotor: 12.19" x 1.25", new, two piece steel rotor with aluminum hat, fasteners (safety wired) included = 11.40#
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Racing Beat 3" downpipe: used, NO fasteners = 6.50#
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Nippon Denso AC compressor: used, dirty, no fittings but black plastic caps on valves attached = 14.90#
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1987 Turbo II stock steel hood: used, windshield spray nozzles and hoses attached, all underhood insulation and front rubber flaps attached, 5A blue paint = 51.85#
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1987 Turbo II stock aluminum hood: used, NO windshield spray nozzles or hoses, all underhood insulation and front rubber flaps attached, hood stripped (NO primer base) and repainted yellow = 29.20#
-Ted
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Ted Koseki
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11-14-01, 02:44 PM
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Welcome back Ted!
I guess you guys have the big brake kits in full production now. How about 20B FC front stabilizer bars?
I've been doing a little weighing myself:
Series 4 NA MT Tranny, used (bellhousing, tranny, shifter): 77#
Series 4 TII MT Tranny, used (bellhousing, tranny, shifter): 96#
Just shifter: about 1#
Spearco 2-248 FMIC w/end tanks: 19.5#
Evil Aviator, used, no shoes: 153# Hehehe.
Also, some front end measurements (taken quickly with a tape measure, so they are not exact):
Series 4 radiator inlet: 72 sq in
Series 5 radiator inlet: 87 sq in
Series 4 brake duct inlet: 10 sq in each
Series 5 brake duct inlet: 30 sq in each
I guess you guys have the big brake kits in full production now. How about 20B FC front stabilizer bars?
I've been doing a little weighing myself:
Series 4 NA MT Tranny, used (bellhousing, tranny, shifter): 77#
Series 4 TII MT Tranny, used (bellhousing, tranny, shifter): 96#
Just shifter: about 1#
Spearco 2-248 FMIC w/end tanks: 19.5#
Evil Aviator, used, no shoes: 153# Hehehe.
Also, some front end measurements (taken quickly with a tape measure, so they are not exact):
Series 4 radiator inlet: 72 sq in
Series 5 radiator inlet: 87 sq in
Series 4 brake duct inlet: 10 sq in each
Series 5 brake duct inlet: 30 sq in each
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11-14-01, 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by JerryLH3
Um, I don't think Ted is exactly back. Check out the dates on the posts, this topic has really been brought back from the dead.
Um, I don't think Ted is exactly back. Check out the dates on the posts, this topic has really been brought back from the dead.
What a bummer! I didn't realize that there were any old posts left after the last forum crash. I guess this means that Scott and I have to design our own stabilizer bar.
11-14-01, 04:08 PM
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Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.
I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.
Mike
I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.
Mike
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11-14-01, 04:41 PM
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Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.
I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.
Mike
Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.
I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.
Mike
and to some people, its worth it.
I know I'd be an ******* if I had a T2 w/ a steel hood. But I probably will dynamatmy car if the exhaust is too oud, but I;'m gonna have probly 2 10"s too
11-14-01, 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Node
I know I'd be an ******* if I had a T2 w/ a steel hood. But I probably will dynamatmy car if the exhaust is too oud, but I;'m gonna have probly 2 10"s too
I know I'd be an ******* if I had a T2 w/ a steel hood. But I probably will dynamatmy car if the exhaust is too oud, but I;'m gonna have probly 2 10"s too
11-14-01, 05:05 PM
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hey
AC with water and PS... Air pump please ... this topic is actually usefull. I can figure out how much weight im saving by taking my steel hood and replacing it with an alluminum. But I have an n/a. Turbo would be 22 pounds. Thats worth it to me.
11-15-01, 11:02 AM
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i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
11-15-01, 11:19 AM
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i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
11-16-01, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by MikeL
Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.
I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.
Mike
Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.
I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.
Mike
11-18-01, 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by HWO
anyone got numbers for the rear hatch, i am soo keen to ditch it in favour of a lexan/polycarbonate one
anyone got numbers for the rear hatch, i am soo keen to ditch it in favour of a lexan/polycarbonate one
88 TII 10AE Hatch (glass, repainted frame, wiper & motor, no struts): 50#
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11-18-01, 02:47 AM
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i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
12-11-01, 10:01 PM
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i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg
also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc
managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!
1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
12-11-01, 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Node
Do you have a how-to or writeup or anything about what exactly you took out and what you replaced it with? Thats pretty good for rewiring.
Do you have a how-to or writeup or anything about what exactly you took out and what you replaced it with? Thats pretty good for rewiring.
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SDG(sound deadening goo) under factory carpet - 25#
Fiber Impact Bars (front and rear) - 12# each
Impact Bar Mounts - 5# each, 4 total on car
These are from memory, I can't remember anything else. I made a list of some items as I removed them from my FP car. I'll get the car weighed before next season starts and post a thread about it. I'll try to remember to get my list of removed items I weighed and post them tomorrow.
Fiber Impact Bars (front and rear) - 12# each
Impact Bar Mounts - 5# each, 4 total on car
These are from memory, I can't remember anything else. I made a list of some items as I removed them from my FP car. I'll get the car weighed before next season starts and post a thread about it. I'll try to remember to get my list of removed items I weighed and post them tomorrow.
12-16-01, 05:14 PM
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Re: rear hatch
I just pulled the window out of the rear hatch and then removed the hatch on my project. The whole thing is 50#s. The glass itself is 33#s of it. You could pull the glass and replace it with polycarb and have a total weight of around 28#s.
-billy
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