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Old 01-04-08, 06:01 AM   #1
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is this worth it? 1993 rx7

i'm real noob in this world..sorry and yes i really dont know anything about car.
i had 2 accord and its gonna be my 3rd car.

i was looking for a new car for few months and my boss told me that he wants to sell his car which is 1993 RX7 twinturbo + ETC...i really dont know anything about car

yes, i'm looking for car. i was gonna get an accord 08 v6-L or Nissan Altima
but i found some good car =) YES its RX7.

anyways she(RX7) got around 80.000 miles on it but someone told me that i have to put the new engine when it gets around 100000miles...is this true?? idw and my boss put the new paint job 4months ago and it looks like a new CAR..
he said he spent almost $2300, yes he meant it...
best part of this car is he got 4 cars include rx7 and he never drive this car that why he want to sell it. he drive once in a month or maybe once in a year.

he was saying that he want to sell it for $12000( it was almost same amount as KBB price, KBB says $12500 and he told he can sell it to me for $10k in cash.. =( thats alot..because i was gonna put $5g's downpay and getting an accord or altima....anyways

do you guys think this is worth it to buying spend $10000??

i forgot to take pictures tho =( but his car looks like this..
silver paint and 18inch wheels and interior are pretty clean too
i dont know how to check engine and stuff...only thing that i know about this car is never got into a car accident...

anyways here is link

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=687274

he got 18inch wheels and yes, he got stock wheels too, and he got stage 3 clutch, and shocks but he didnt install it yet, and blah blah..
i dont know if its good or not but he said it cost around $2g's..
if its true then DAMN =) im gonna sell it =)

anyways should i go for an accord 08 or? Altima? or 1993 RX7?

thanks alot guys.

p.s. sorry about my English, its my 3rd language =(
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man, alot of people have been inquiring about buying fd's lately...

i checked the link, and it doesnt seem to be the car you described? i responded based on what you wrote above...

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to be honest, this car is surely not for you. the engine usually goes at around 80k miles and the turbos at around 70k miles. the price to me seems like its fair, but you will prob be sinking some major cash into it soon. your lack of knowlege of the rx7 and its inner workings will be your downfall. knowing where to get parts for a rebuild and knowing where to take your car for the rebuild is everything. in the end you will prob end up getting screwd over, and we will have to here another "wat do i do, i just spent 6k for a rebuild and my car runs like ****" sob story. but if are, in fact, able to get the touring fd in the link above for 10k. i would jump on that ****, thats a hell of a deal. if possible buy it for 10k then resell for 19k and buy another car of your liking(thats not an rx7)

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he was saying that he want to sell it for $12000( it was almost same amount as KBB price, KBB says $12500 and he told he can sell it to me for $10k in cash..
for future reference, dont listen to kelly. she dont know ****.

kbb is out of date and is not longer used. banks and dealerships use NADA now. its accurate and up to date. but it cant be used for pricing most fd's anyways because when you add mods and rebuilds the price changes a good bit. only if its completly stock and has never been rebuilt can you get an accurate price evaluation
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the FAQs at the top of the 3rd gen section will help you with all your questions.

Secondly, you cant put a nissan altima and an rx7 in the same class. Its like apples and oranges.

Look at automatic FDrx7s if you want a daily driver. the autos usually have lower kms, and are less likely to have been thrashed. They are also fun to drive.
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Yogi,

First, welcome to the forum.

If you are serious about purchasing an FD, start here...

FAQ for 3rd Gen & other useful links

You will find tons of info about RX-7s with that link.

Although it can be done, I would not recommend the FD as a daily driver. It sounds like you would be using the car as a daily driver and a broken down car would put you in a bind. The car you linked to looks to be in pretty nice shape, but I still would not recommend it as a daily driver. Daily driving an FD can be done (I used to do it), but I just wouldn't recommend it (at least not one with sequential twin turbo system still in the car).

As for replacing the engine at 100,000 miles...it all depends on the car and how it was maintained/used. I have seen some engines go before 50,000 miles while mine lasted 92,000.

Make no mistake about it...the FD is a money pit! But it is an awesome car to own!!

Just my $.02

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i'm real noob in this world..sorry and yes i really dont know anything about car.
i had 2 accord and its gonna be my 3rd car.
If I understand you correctly, the RX-7 would be your only car? If that is the case, I would strongly urge you to not buy the car. I don't know much about the FD yet. I bought one on a weird kind of whim two weeks ago after really only researching them for about a month. Even at my level of massive and overwhelming ignorance however, I do know that it is not a car that you want to have to rely on for daily driving. Not that you can't daily drive it, but you want a back-up vehicle. There are several reasons I can think of for this:

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The cars apparently can and do break. The car is almost 15 years old and time alone can be hard on a vehicle. Your boss may not drive it, but someone has put 80k on the car and eventually something will give. If the car won't start, or quits, or even has some small electrical problem that makes it not street legal until fixed, you still need to be able to get to work. That means a second car. You probably can't count on just taking the car into your local Mazda dealer and have them turn the car around for you in a couple of days. Even with a mechanic that knows these cars, it can take time to just get the parts you may need.

2) Money. I'm already finding out that these can be expensive cars to own even if you aren't out to modify them and even if they don't need restoration. An Accord or Altima will be a lot cheaper to operate.

3) Since you are in Georgia, this last may not apply, but I don't ever want to drive the FD again in snow. I did it last week for about 45 minutes East of Albuquerque and it was scary. If you get snow or ice, you will need to leave the car in the garage and drive something, almost anything, else.

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Some good points there by dhays, but many people do daily drive these cars and you will pull more chicks in the FD too!
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I will make it very easy for you, since your question made it easy to answer....
NO you should not buy the Rx7.

I would recommend you buy one of the other cars you mentioned, such as the Altima.
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I will make it very easy for you, since your question made it easy to answer....
NO you should not buy the Rx7.

I would recommend you buy one of the other cars you mentioned, such as the Altima.
cause its old? or cause of the money problems? =(
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Yogi,

First, welcome to the forum.

If you are serious about purchasing an FD, start here...

FAQ for 3rd Gen & other useful links

You will find tons of info about RX-7s with that link.

Although it can be done, I would not recommend the FD as a daily driver. It sounds like you would be using the car as a daily driver and a broken down car would put you in a bind. The car you linked to looks to be in pretty nice shape, but I still would not recommend it as a daily driver. Daily driving an FD can be done (I used to do it), but I just wouldn't recommend it (at least not one with sequential twin turbo system still in the car).

As for replacing the engine at 100,000 miles...it all depends on the car and how it was maintained/used. I have seen some engines go before 50,000 miles while mine lasted 92,000.

Make no mistake about it...the FD is a money pit! But it is an awesome car to own!!

Just my $.02

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yeah, its gonna be for daily car and im not a racer and my work place is only 5miles from my house.
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Aren't 08' v6 Accords like 30 large?

Buy the FD and have 20k to put into it. Problem solved.
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anyone else notice that in the link, it says the car was sold...lol
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i forgot to take pictures tho =( but his car looks like this..
silver paint and 18inch wheels and interior are pretty clean too

He just posted that link saying the car looked similar.
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Aren't 08' v6 Accords like 30 large?

Buy the FD and have 20k to put into it. Problem solved.
you meant $20000 into it? '-' if its 20g's then i would say NO! haha

i would buy used s2k with 2g's if i have that much cash in my pocket.
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you meant $20000 into it? '-' if its 20g's then i would say NO! haha

i would buy used s2k with 2g's if i have that much cash in my pocket.
take the purchase price and multiply by (at least) 2. That will give you a ballpark figure.

13,500 93 RX7, box stock, 43,000 miles
4,600 "built" motor, installed, 5th gear syncro repair (90,000 miles)
1,200 Koni coilovers, installed and ride height set with a good alignment
1,300 tri point sway bar, all bushings installed
1,200 Power FC and commander, boost guage, Knightsports boost controler
4,000 needed for cold air intake, intercooler, other sundry items to get it where I want it

total 25,800 (13,500 for car, 12,300 for mods)

Oh, I forgot the new radiator, down pipe, RB cat-back, high-flow cat, and a bunch of other "small"stuff. $$$$

Damn.....I can't afford an RX7
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take the purchase price and multiply by (at least) 2. That will give you a ballpark figure.

13,500 93 RX7, box stock, 43,000 miles
4,600 "built" motor, installed, 5th gear syncro repair (90,000 miles)
1,200 Koni coilovers, installed and ride height set with a good alignment
1,300 tri point sway bar, all bushings installed
1,200 Power FC and commander, boost guage, Knightsports boost controler
4,000 needed for cold air intake, intercooler, other sundry items to get it where I want it

total 25,800 (13,500 for car, 12,300 for mods)

Oh, I forgot the new radiator, down pipe, RB cat-back, high-flow cat, and a bunch of other "small"stuff. $$$$

Damn.....I can't afford an RX7

do i need this parts on my rx7? idw about cars but i dont think i have to replace all the parts tho..
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No, you don't need these parts because you are not buying the Rx-7.

At a minimum only the reliability modifications are required.
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Just browse this section, and you'll get an idea what owners are experiencing with engine problems. And ask your self if you are able to and willing to deal with working on this car. Figure out where you are gonna take it, if you do have engine problems, see how much they charge. It's a great car to own, but it doesn't come cheap.
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wow, i cant beleve you haven't got noob bashed about wanting to buy a FD but i guess your situation is somewhat different than most other people who show up here wanting an FD, you seem like you just happened upon the opportunity.

Anyway i think that if you are going to buy a 3rd gen it has to be a life goal of some sorts if you want to do it right. first off you need to have money saved, and money to spend. I personally would love to have an FD and I do plan on owning one within the next few years. However, I will have lots of planning and searching for the perfect FD for me. Also i have a FC and i bought it a year ago after about a year of research and forum reading before i decided to purchase it.

anyway do not buy a RX-7 unless you WANT a RX-7 If you are choosing between other cars then the RX-7 should be removed from your mind IMO. unless you have researched and learned about the rotary engine and have decided that it is something that you really want to pursue, then move on. TRUST ME! it is for both your own good and the good of the FD.
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Well, obviously there's something that you like about the RX-7...

If you buy it, keep your current car as a backup and daily driver and just consider the 7 as a fun expense for the weekends.

It would be interesting to do a survey of the number of RX drivers that actually use their cars as daily transportation.

To answer your question, yes, it's worth it if you love the car and don't mind that it's not a very practical daily driver.
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these posts are def one of my favs. a guy asks if he shoudl buy a fd and countless noobs chime in with the same answer....NO.
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i was one of those noobs that didnt take no for an answer!

Quite frankly, the FD is a beautiful, powerful and great handling car, i cant recommend a better car. All cars are going to cost money. I would rather put my money into maintaining an FD than an Altima.
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yes and no on the purchase. Having an fd as a daily driver might not be the best thing in the world great beautiful cars, but at that age and with those miles things are bound to start popping up as far as tunning and maitnance. I don't know it's your call. For a daily driver to and from work and anything else you do might not be in your best intrest unless you have a beater. I would say put th 5g's on the down payment for the new car that comes with a warranty. And then later down the road think about an FD.
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Let me see if I can help here, yogi, and welcome.

The 7 has a rotary motor, which everyone will point out has many pluses and a few minuses and it is SOLELY these few issues with the motor that cause people on the forum to suggest you shouldn't have the 7 as a daily driver. The body, suspension, transmission, drivetrain, etc, are all just as robust as most other better Japanese built cars.

The primary, though not only issue with the motor is detonation. The rotary doesn't take "knocking" very well. They just blow seals and get rebuilt and that can cost several thousand dollars. The rotary motor in the seven runs very very hot both due to its basic nature and the fact that Mazda put too much stuff into the engine bay. The basic nature thing is in part due to the fact that you have 2 turbos spinning at up to 100,000 rpm in a very cramped space with not enough colling air and not really enough intercooling to give you a very wide margin for error.

These heat issues can be dealt with very readily through known and not terribly expensive mods that are well documented on this site. However, many people, whether original owners or subsequent owners, modified their cars to make more power by increasing the boost. Many of these people didn't do the mods to match the increase in boost (>boost=>heat) and their motors blew. Most people do it once and learn their lesson. (Some have gone back to class for a bit more schooling, but they eventually get it or sell the car.)

If you want a very fast, exceptional handling, comfortable, and beautiful car to daily drive, buy a fairly stock, well-maintained 7, do the reliability mods costing a few thousand dollars when you can, and just enjoy it. I don't think anyone has ever done a survey that compared failures on unmodded cars versus stock cars, but am completely convinced that most of the engine failures have occured with cars whose engines have been modified to produce more power, or, where the owners of fairly stock cars did not perform the regular scheduled maintenance.

Finally, while it is possible to spend as much money as you have or want to spend on an Rx7, there is a key difference with the 7 and that is that the value of "good" well-maintained cars is going up. You buy an Altima and its value is of course going down. So, even if you screw up -- and I hope I have made it clear that you don't have to screw up (blow motor), you will not necessarily lose money or too much money relative to purchasing a car whose value will depreciate so much more than the 7.

However, I would have to agree with several people here in that, if you just see the 7 as a nice car that you are considering against other cars like the Altima, it may still not be the car for you. Like so many others here, I fell in love with the car and while I bought my first new 7 late in the game (a 95 bought new in early 96), I have owned a 7 ever since except for a period of a little more than a year. And, while I did daily drive my first one with no problems, it was new and I only hit just under 30,000 miles when I sold it and I only have about 40,000 miles on my current car, which recently underwent a conversion to a 3 rotor motor, so, I still won't have experience with a high mileage (80,000+ miles) where others have seen them blow.

If you fall in love, buy it. Otherwise, leave it for someone else who does or will love it. In fact, if you decide not to buy it, I think it would be nice for you to let the forum know how to get in touch with your boss. I assure you there is someone on the forum right now who would buy this car in a heartbeat.

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I had an FD for ten years. 8 of those 10 it was my sole mode of transportation. Let me tell you from experience that the FD is an awesome car to have. When it works, it will put a huge grin on your face every time you drive it. Hell, I just liked looking at it...It just those shitty times when you have some unplanned maintenance, like a rebuild or two.

I'd like to have another one someday. However, I think I'd have to move to another state where I can own a home with a big-*** monster garage.

IMO, I'd recommend that you stay away from an FD at this time. You need a backup car and extra funds set-aside for mods and repairs. A rebuild can easily cost $4500-10000 depending on what you upgrade).
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