RX7Club.com - Mazda RX7 Forum

RX7Club.com - Mazda RX7 Forum (https://www.rx7club.com/)
-   Suspension/Wheels/Tires/Brakes (https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/)
-   -   Tein Sex!!! (https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/tein-sex-482833/)

Xeros 11-16-05 10:37 PM

Tein Sex!!!
 
Man all I can say is SEX!!! MY NEW HT strust just dropped off by my friend from NA-dreams, fuckin kick ass. I got them for 1750 shipped!!! thats 400 bellow price tag!!! woo Only Andy coudl get me a deal liek that. if you need something they have everything and can get you anything you want. NA-dreams.com

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/1534/cimg14594tc.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/576/cimg14606yr.jpg

Xeros 11-16-05 10:38 PM

mmmm double adjustable gooodness.

RX7-2JOCK 11-16-05 10:40 PM

Nice!!

sonix7 11-16-05 11:06 PM

dude, I was just thinking about this earlier. They are fully adjustable electronically right? those my friend are badass.

SRA-FD3S 11-16-05 11:09 PM

Sweet

SRA-FD3S 11-16-05 11:09 PM

Track The Sh!t Out Of Those's.........i Would!

jic 11-16-05 11:10 PM

they didnt come with the camber plates?

Xeros 11-16-05 11:54 PM

You mean Pillball mounts? Now no you have to get em seperately. Track the shit out of them is righ tthat was the point of getting them But no not electronically adjustable.

Prôdigy2nd 11-17-05 12:00 AM

is there not a suspenion system for the FD that is by Tein and is electronicly ajustable? i thought there was but i could be wrong, would be nice to know for "Furture" investments.


Prôdigy

YoshiFD3S 11-17-05 12:12 AM

Tein Flex coil-overs are 16-way adjustable with a cool little Greddy Profec-B lookin' device. It works baddass. My friend had em' on his 240 and the pressure is adjusted instantly. Softed setting, he could lean on the side of the car and it would squat...hardest setting...wouldn't budge one bit.

I THINK they're the Flex coil-overs.. Pretty sure.

I want them myself. Stock is no fun.

Red Suns 11-17-05 12:38 AM

Are these HT's streetable in the relative sense? My guess is they aren't. But how do these compare to the Flex's?

rynberg 11-17-05 12:57 AM

Are you aware that those coilovers have 1100 lb-in springs front AND rear? I hope you enjoy oversteer. They look sexy, though.

Xeros 11-17-05 08:38 AM

OVER STERR IS YUMMY! Anywasy yes I am they are. The Car is being made for track purpose. Though I can counter the over steer by adjusting the front dampers' rebound and bound correctly. It's allll inhow you set these puppiese UP! THE FREEDOM AND VERSATILITY OF THE HT!

Xeros 11-17-05 08:42 AM

Yeah the spring rate will definitely harshen the Ride a bit on the streets but other than that I menamy ass has enough fat on it to pad it and make it a bit more comfortable. Hell if I wanted to I coud order softer springs anyday. Might even do so later on.

chopstix 11-17-05 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
Tein Flex coil-overs are 16-way adjustable with a cool little Greddy Profec-B lookin' device. It works baddass. My friend had em' on his 240 and the pressure is adjusted instantly. Softed setting, he could lean on the side of the car and it would squat...hardest setting...wouldn't budge one bit.

I THINK they're the Flex coil-overs.. Pretty sure.

I want them myself. Stock is no fun.


heres the web site for the suspension controller your talking about..
tein EDFC .... http://www.tein.co.jp/edfce.html

rynberg 11-17-05 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Xeros
OVER STERR IS YUMMY! Anywasy yes I am they are. The Car is being made for track purpose. Though I can counter the over steer by adjusting the front dampers' rebound and bound correctly. It's allll inhow you set these puppiese UP! THE FREEDOM AND VERSATILITY OF THE HT!

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=spring+rate

I suggest you read all of Howard Coleman (22+ year SCCA racing veteran) posts in the above thread, especially the posts regarding spring rate.

maduhbee 11-17-05 02:38 PM

I myself have the TEIN HA's and they are AWESOME. good purchase!

sonix7 11-17-05 04:34 PM

yeah the EDFC is the ultimate kit ever. Fully adjustable from the driver seat via a button. Price is probably like 4500.00 or something right?

Xeros 11-17-05 06:11 PM

Actually the Spring rate is 1010lbs is what is says and I can believe it. Its obvious these Springs are made for grippppy slicks and I will most likely orders a few diffrent sets of springs from tein next spring, yes they make replaceable springs, thats why tein is so awsome they have tons of springs to choose from. I have also read up plenty on suspension setups liek howard coleman's thread rynberg, I wouldn't just go forth and get HTs like that. What I wanted out of the HTs was the double adjustability. But Like I said the HTs are made to be run with STICKy ass slicks and auto X tracks obviously hence the gymkhana master name. Am I professional no, not even close I admit. But I still take everything one step at a time very carefulyl with tons of research.

7racer 11-17-05 07:58 PM

here is a quote from Howard Coleman in that thread. Good luck with them! Post back on how they do at the track!

Nice looking coilovers though :bigthumb:


i consider 560/450 to be the upper end of an acceptable aggressive street/track spring rate.

if you want to run something higher than that rate try pumping up your tires to 75 pounds and go for a drive. it won't be pretty. It also will not be fast.

Stiff is not fast. Stiff is sliding around, overheating/grinding up your tires, or having your tires see alot of air time as they bounce over the bumps. An overly stiffly sprung car might give the appearance of fast as it responds faster to steering inputs but as soon as the suspension loads the tire is in over it’s head and loses grip.

Increased roll stiffness from higher spring rate does not change the amount of lateral load transfer in a corner. It merely speeds up the time in which the load transfers making it more difficult for the driver to drive at the edge of control. Watch the restart of NASCAR race as the drivers warm up their tires… notice how free the cars are, how they roll…

Xeros 11-17-05 08:26 PM

I read that a while back. But liek I said I will most likely be getting softer springs in the spring.

ArcWelder 11-18-05 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Xeros
I read that a while back. But liek I said I will most likely be getting softer springs in the spring.

That is assuming that there is enough range for bump and rebound to account for the softer springs. As they are currently valved for the stiffer spring rates.

Xeros 11-18-05 12:44 PM

Thats true but i can have them revalved for around 200.00 but with 16 way adjustability I am not too sure I'll have to we will see.

DamonB 11-18-05 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Xeros
with 16 way adjustability I am not too sure

They may be fine, they may not. What ArcWelder was trying to explain is that "16 way" doesn't have anything to do with the range of valving the damper is capable of operating over, you merely have 14 steps in between fully soft and fully hard for that given valving. If that given valving is not in the realm of what the spring needs you're still out of luck.

ArcWelder 11-22-05 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by DamonB
They may be fine, they may not. What ArcWelder was trying to explain is that "16 way" doesn't have anything to do with the range of valving the damper is capable of operating over, you merely have 14 steps in between fully soft and fully hard for that given valving. If that given valving is not in the realm of what the spring needs you're still out of luck.

Right, thanks for clarifying. Just to add a data point, I have Drummond Motor Sport shocks that are seperately adjustable for compression and rebound. They're valved seperately for each particular spring rate front and rear.

Front: Spring rate 550lbs.
Rebound adjustment range is 375 to 510
Compression adjustment range is 200 to 260
Rear: Spring rate is 450lbs.
Rebound adjustment range is 340 to 435
Compression adjustment range is 160 to 200

TwinTurbo93 11-25-05 05:23 PM

1750 with the discount? :shocking: , They'd have to be electronicaly and fully adjustable, that's including a laptop, not just any game boy-ish control device for me to get them :D . . .

They must be great though, Tein makes good stuff.
Enjoy them...

Kahren 11-28-05 04:19 PM

these come with 20/20 spring rates, unless you opted for something else. not really streetable at all. liek somone has mentioned this is for a smoother tracks and big slicks

Xeros 11-29-05 07:07 PM

yup yup, acuallythey came with 18s. I'll be revalvign them this spring and getting softer springs. it'll cost me about another grand uuugghhh but we'll see how i like em on slicks at auto X. I called tein by the way and found out the lowest I could go was 16kg springs...bah! but wewill see hw it works out, as far as street driveability goes I am expecting absolutely nothing good form them hahah :D

RICE RACING 11-29-05 07:37 PM

HA are way too stiff.

They shock dyno graphs and rates wont suit more suitable spring rates either, you have to get them fully rebuilt.

A better solutions for street and semi slick tire applications is the Tein Super Street range, they have very good spring rates (what experienced racers recomend) and the shock dyno is perfect for non glass like track surfaces.

Even the super street's I run cant be set to close to maximum damping rate (6 to 8 from stiffest) because they are far too harsh and cause loss of contact of tire patch) on even minor irregualrities.

Try stoping form 130+mph (if you have racing pads as I do) and you will see how too stiff damping will active ABS easily far greater stopping distances. Also mid corner exit on undulations with Dunlop 02G semi slick road race tires will break easily, again far slower than proper spring damper rates.

Just a little tip for you all, if its a race car with full slicks on very flat/smooth race track doing a one lap shoot out then O.K. All else it will laod up tires far too hard and have little tolerance for any imperfections in the road surface.

Xeros 11-30-05 09:31 AM

thanks for the info. Like I said revalving will be done this spring for sure now. I'm just wondering if I could have had them built to spec straight from japan since its a sepcial uild either way. The guys at tein usa told me that most likely not since they dont like to do custom jobs but if buying the HT is a must build before we ship deal then what would have been the diffrence? Thanks for all your info you guys. Still 18kg if its that bad whats the point, then again most tarmac events in japan gyhmakan(couldn't spell it) are on ultra smooth tarmac lots sooo I guess it would make sense with what rice racing is saying.

Xeros 11-30-05 09:37 AM

Archwelder i was looking at the DMS sight out of suriosity, how much did your entire setup run you? I also found this funny.

KIA RIO
Now available, the 50mm adjustable suspension for motorsport use.

(used in Iran for rallying)


to think I can now lower my RIO and rally it....wtf.

ArcWelder 12-11-05 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Xeros
Archwelder i was looking at the DMS sight out of suriosity, how much did your entire setup run you?

Xeros, I think they were in the $1800-$1900 range.

Xeros 12-11-05 11:50 AM

did they do a custom valve job on them right form the factory to your door or did oyu have to send them back to revalve?

ArcWelder 12-12-05 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Xeros
did they do a custom valve job on them right form the factory to your door or did oyu have to send them back to revalve?


No custom valving required. This was their standard application for the 3rd gen RX-7.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:12 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands