Best brake Pads? (inyour opinion)
 

First off I know nothing about the best brakes, so if anyone could clue me in that would be great. Also is this a good deal?

FS: Hawk HPS front pads

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40 bucks
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Thanks for the help :bigthumb:

EBC redstuff are the 1's for me :bigthumb:

yeah i use EBC Green stuff, i went with them because they are supposdley ( i know miss spelled) no as hard on your rotors but the greens do have a little squeak at low speeds when they are cold.

You might want to search in the "suspension/wheels/tires/brakes" section. I'm getting ready to order up a set of BONEZ STAGE 1's.

Has anyone replaced the stock rotors with a rotor the same size. I didn't know if everyone went with a bigger brake package when it was time to chang the rotors. What did you use if you didn't go bigger? Did you buy a package from somewhere? Just fishing for info about brakes. I don't want to go bigger, jsut want to chage my pads, and possibly rotors.

Might want to try posting this in the Tires/Wheels/ brakes section. First off, there is no best brake pad. To help answer your question you have to give alot more information. Such as, intended use, dusting issues, price, performance...

The second question, is $40 a good deal on these pads, the answer would be no if they don't fit your needs.

I guess you missed the IN YOUR opinion part. I guess I need to restate this for you, "So for YOUR FD, what type of brake pads do you use?" Is that better for you? And I figured that this post should have been put in the tire/brake area the first time I was told, but it's here now so all I am asking for is your help. Thanks :bigthumb:

No, what he is saying is that there are pads out there for specific use. i.e. the pad one person chooses SHOULD be based on car use. Trying to use a street pad on the track or a track pad on the street just won't work. Other concerns are dusting, etc..

So, first, post up what you intend to do with your car then people can help you select a good pad.

No offense meant on my part. Sgtblue's post to try in the wheel/tires/brake section was posted 6 minutes before mine while I was still composing.

For my car on the street the stock pads were fine. Low dusting, worked well when cold, but they're not cheap. Track I've used Hawk Blues and Performance Friction 93's and 01's, but both of these aren't suitable for the street. When I went to a larger brake setup, the front AP calipers came with Ferodo pads for the street which work well. Not sure what exact compound it is though.

Thank you for your help. I was just looking to get some names of brake pad, and what people thought of them, so I could start pricing and shopping around. If anyone knows of a good deal on any of the brakes mentioned, please let me know I would need them for street. Thank you for all your help. :bigthumb:

For the street, I would recommend either the Bonez Stage I pads or the CarboTech Bobcats.

Bonez: http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdbrakes.html
Bobcats: http://www.dpeweb.com/ProductsList.a...oductTypeID=14

recon,
FWIW my car is currenly just street driven, but I'm considering attending an open track event and possibly a rally in the future. I understand that the BONEZ Stage 1 pads are rotor friendly, quiet and relatively dust free. But still able to hold up to some severe treatment. (further info is welcome though :) ).

I'm also considering a set of POWERSLOT rotors, at least for the front. These are OEM size and replacement is bolt-on. Currently I'm still using OEM.

They will stand up for a little track abuse, but not too much. The track I ran them on was about a 2 mile course. I ended up fading them on the 5th lap on a semi warm day. I just backed the straight-away speeds down a bit and was fine for the rest of the day (as I really had no business going as fast as I was at that time anyway).

I ended up switching to the N-Tech Lapping Day pads for the front and using the Bonez on the rear for track days.

Apologies in advance to recon.
IF I do an open track day, it'll be at MAM, which I expect your familiar with. And as a novice, I won't be pushing it very hard. Mostly (99 %) will be street. Would you still recommend the BONEZ or should I consider something else?

Not being familiar with MAM, I would say that you would be fine for your first couple of track days with the Bonez pad -- as long as you are driving like you should be your first few days at the track and not in "scare the instructor mode"...:D

If you want to regularly do track days, you should really swap out to the Lapping Day pads like Mahjik does.

At MAM, you should be ok with the Bonez as long as you take it easy on the long straight.

I use the Hawk HPS pads. Though they claim that they are low-dust pads, they do dust quite a bit (more than stock). The initial bite when cold is better than stock, but nothing to write home about.

When I replace my pads again, I will be replacing them with something else.

I really like the EBC Greens on my FD. Good initial bite and fade free and very little dust in street driving. Haven't tried them on track yet though. Howard Coleman seems to like them also.

If price isn't a variable in this I will confidently say the Endless CC-X pad. A carbon ceramic compound that is incredibly functional but very streetable as well. This has been a unanimous conclusion by our users against all vehicle applications tested. It has also been much much friendlier to their rotors for a Carbon ceramic compound. They continually suggested that while the pads were more expensive than others, that it saved them as much or more money in rotor replacements. I thought that was kinda neat piece of info.

At a retail of $435.00 per front and rear set you can see why not everyone is using them and their benefits are not widely recognized by street/track guys in the US.

Its not even so much that the japanese brake manuf. make great pads. When you use their products and STICK to them you have a huge line of pads to choose from with totally diffrent characteristics. You know that if you go with a pad two steps softer its going to be that much gripier from cold. or if you go with a step harder you know you will have to be running that much faster to get them to work.

I see alot of people jumping brands and this makes no sence....you have no REAL compairson on the diffrence in compounds. Its like taking a stab in the dark. There are alot of people that will keep 2 or 3 diffrent sets of pads and swap them based on the track or event they are racing in. Thats how you should buy your pads.

Imho
 

For a street car, Axxis Ultimate: http://www.axxisbrakes.com/ult.htm

Do a search on the forum - quite a few good reviews.

does anybody use project mu pads? some of the mu pads are kinda affordable and i kinda want to get them

I think if you're looking to spend under a $100.00 a pad you would have a better value with a US made pad, so to speak. Hawk or Porterfield. Just depends what you want. Low Dust, Good initial response, Fade Resistance, etc....?

Please detail the functions for your vehicle and your driving style. This will allow us to recommend some pad characteristics and possible "temp ranges" you should be looking into.

Rishie

i feel like i'm hijacking this thread. forgive me

i do mostly street driving with weekly or bi-weekly canyon runs. i like to use the brakes a lot on the downhill, but i don't do any track runs or drag racing behavior. i think i mostly need pads good for everyday and occassional spirited driving with good wear and little fade coming down the hills. i'm thinking hawk hps might be pretty good for me. cheap too

i was curious about project mu's 'cuz the cheapest street pads they have can be had for around $70 a pair. being that amemiya's racing and drift cars sport project mu pads there's a bit of glamor exoticness to them

Project Mu B-force. Don't need alot of heat to work and are easier on rotors then something like the Titan Kai. Best all around, often paired with the D1 rear pads for drifting but *rumor* has it that the D1s will fall apart if you do heavy grip duty with them. B-force all around gets :thup: If you start to fade them you can move up to the next line they offer.

Since I use the PF01's, I guess that makes me a rock star minus the chicks, wild parties and various addictions. ;-)

I'm rockstar...I'm a rockstar...oh yeah...
Now where's my contract dang it?
Carlos...we know you're a "rockstar" :D

All things aside IMO:
Best street pad: OEM. Decent performance, progressive feel, long life, and NO DUST. Although I currently use Ferodo DS2500 street pad because I have an AP BBK up front. Still use OEMs in the rear though. 2 corners and they faded on the track though.

Best Combo Street/Track pad: None. Want to take it on the track buy dedicated track pads.

My Track pads: PF 01 front, 93 rear. Nice initial bite, decent coefficient of friction, rotor friendly from a wear perspective, minimal dust. I've also used Hawk Blue (9012) on the FD... better initial bite than the PF pads but phenominal braking ability, but at the expesne of horrendous dusting. I've used Hawk black on my ITS car with success also but it weighs a good 600lbs less than the FD.

FWIW,
Crispy

Just to say my opinion, i have tested the Hawk pads on a stock fd, on a pretty small track about 1900 meters long. And i had no brake fading after 15 laps.

But i have tried a few other pads after this and i have found two very nice pads. They are called Ferodo and Pagid. They have difrent types for difrent use. But they all work excelent on the track. But they are pretty expensive pads.

But i have never had brakes that feels so good.

But u also must understand that racing brake pads must be run in the right way. My ferodo pads i have now need to be run in hard. 10-20 hard braking at speeds above 80mph.

Im running Ferodo 2500 on AP Racing 6 pots on my FD now and they are amazing, i can brake about 75 meters later then before with stock brakes. But still they where amazing on stock brakes also.

"Hawk pads" is not specific enough to tell us anything useful. Hawk makes many different compounds.

Neither Ferodo nor Pagid make any pads that fit the stock FD calipers, AFAIK.

Ferodo DS2500 pads are street pads.

-Max

yeah, what dont ou like about the hawk + pads?

The Hawk HP+ pads dust a lot and can squeal (though mine did not squeal much). They have good initial bite and I like the way they feel. But they will still fade at the track (mine did) and I don't consider them to be track worthy.

-Max

Agree. ONE corner on the track and I faded the 2500's

Crispy

I run porterfields ( I forgot which one, the street pad) on the street and Hawk Blacks on the track. I'm looking for a replacement for the Hawk Blacks as they dust to much and eat up my rotors.
I will have to try the PF 01...where is the best place to get them?

Try the N-tech Lapping Day pads first, as Mahjik and Ptrhahn recommend. I'll be trying them here soon with my Stoptechs. The PFC 01s rock but are fricking $300/set....

where's the cheapest place to get hawk hps pads? didn't tire rack use to have it for ~40 a pair? i need new pads

Beleive it or not, Porterfield sell Hawk pads at very competitive prices 1-800 537-6842

HTH,
Crispy

Sorry to bring back an old thread, but when you say "93 rear" are you using stock pads in back? I've been using n-tech competition in front and either stock or hawk hps in the back (on the assumption that the rear is mostly just along for the ride). Now I need to replace the rear rotors and pads so I'm re-thinking what to do in back.

I switch the front n-tech pads for hps after I leave the track, but I'd rather not have to switch the rears also, so I'm looking for a street/track combo for the rear. I do very little street driving.

Check this thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/n-tech-competition-compound-440657/

You'll see a quite a few of us who are using the N-Tech pads on the front are running a street pad on the rear. ;)

He meant the Performance Friction "93" compound.

-Max