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Dudemaaanownsanrx7 10-19-09 01:00 PM

How much do the stock FD rotors weigh?

93Fd4life 10-19-09 01:21 PM

http://www.modified.com/projectcars/...t_3/index.html

they did a brake swap and they say the stock rotors are 15 lbs each for the fronts and stock calipers are 6.20 lbs

Those these ebay ones are way over weight lol they swaped some porshe ones on that car and they weight little over 20 lbs for rotors for same size as these ebays

Rxmfn7 10-19-09 01:33 PM

OE G37s rotors are ~29.5lbs according to racingbrake

http://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-f...cingbrake.html

Deals Gap Rotary Rally 10-19-09 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by curacaosfinest (Post 9571185)
i figured that drilling out the FD's mounts wouldnt be the best idea thats why in my brief write up that i did last night, i said that its possible but i dont know if it will work out well, which as u have just confirmed for us it wont lol

but what i'm doing is retaping the mounting holes of the evo calipers to M12-1.25...so that i can get get a fully threaded bolt and run it through the FD mounting hole and into the evo's mounting hole

Actually, I think you have to drill out the FD mounting points vs. Evo.

I say this because if you look at how you mounted your, the caliper mounts towards the wheel side vs. stock back side. If you drill out the evo side, then you would have to bolt thru the front side which you might have problem with... I think it would be easier to just take the thread out of the FD side.. But again, I'm just guessing via poor cell phone pics.. :)

Dudemaaanownsanrx7 10-19-09 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by 93Fd4life (Post 9571301)
http://www.modified.com/projectcars/...t_3/index.html

they did a brake swap and they say the stock rotors are 15 lbs each for the fronts and stock calipers are 6.20 lbs

Those these ebay ones are way over weight lol they swaped some porshe ones on that car and they weight little over 20 lbs for rotors for same size as these ebays

That was a pretty neat writeup. Sounds like a good brake system.

dan81386 10-19-09 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by 93Fd4life (Post 9571301)
http://www.modified.com/projectcars/...t_3/index.html

they did a brake swap and they say the stock rotors are 15 lbs each for the fronts and stock calipers are 6.20 lbs

Those these ebay ones are way over weight lol they swaped some porshe ones on that car and they weight little over 20 lbs for rotors for same size as these ebays

has any one on this forum done this swap? were the brackets 1 off parts or are they a production part? it would be great if someone made these brackets so we could build a cheap bbk

Dezigns 10-19-09 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Deals Gap Rotary Rally (Post 9570754)
but by looks of it, the center bore of the G37 looks ok.. Unless he opened it up.

Centre bore is negligible, Id say they would fit quite snuggly :)

G37 66.2mm
FD 67.1mm

d = 0.9mm

as for the 'cross over tube' I dont believe it will matter - brakes are hydraulic and will be under pressure - it'll work no matter what way up they are :scratch:

Deals Gap Rotary Rally 10-19-09 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Dezigns (Post 9571511)
Centre bore is negligible, Id say they would fit quite snuggly :)

G37 66.2mm
FD 67.1mm

d = 0.9mm

as for the 'cross over tube' I dont believe it will matter - brakes are hydraulic and will be under pressure - it'll work no matter what way up they are :scratch:

WOW! 0.9mm?? That's almost nothing.. LOL!

I now understand what 'cross over tube'. I also agree.. I don't think it matters.. But I'm no engineer :)

curacaosfinest 10-19-09 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Dezigns (Post 9571511)
Centre bore is negligible, Id say they would fit quite snuggly :)

G37 66.2mm
FD 67.1mm

d = 0.9mm

as for the 'cross over tube' I dont believe it will matter - brakes are hydraulic and will be under pressure - it'll work no matter what way up they are :scratch:

yup...i just had to sand the rust off the center of the hub of the FD and it fit on tight as a glove

RCCAZ 1 10-19-09 09:50 PM

Good stuff. Jumping on to follow the action.

curacaosfinest 10-19-09 10:05 PM

the total diameter of the rotor with the caliper on it is about 15inches...but i would have at least a 15.25 to 15.5 inches of diameter inside the rim

jcurtis 10-20-09 12:33 AM

This is the greatest discovery of this decade. You have my vote for the FD Hall of Fame.

staticguitar313 10-20-09 01:20 AM

So this wont fit under a 17inch rim?

Deals Gap Rotary Rally 10-20-09 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by staticguitar313 (Post 9572839)
So this wont fit under a 17inch rim?

He just stated...


the total diameter of the rotor with the caliper on it is about 15inches...but i would have at least a 15.25 to 15.5 inches of diameter inside the rim
Different style rims have different inner diameter. Best answer is to measure your own wheels. Better yet, to help others, post what kind of wheel you have and the measurement you get :)

curacaosfinest, To be more accurate, can you put a ruler and snap a pic so we could see the radius from the center of the wheel to the edge of the caliper?

Waiting for more pics of this set up..

curacaosfinest 10-20-09 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Deals Gap Rotary Rally (Post 9573158)
He just stated...



Different style rims have different inner diameter. Best answer is to measure your own wheels. Better yet, to help others, post what kind of wheel you have and the measurement you get :)

curacaosfinest, To be more accurate, can you put a ruler and snap a pic so we could see the radius from the center of the wheel to the edge of the caliper?

Waiting for more pics of this set up..

i was thinking it was probably easier for you guys to measure the diameter rather than the radius cus its hard to get one edge of the rule exactly in the middle of the wheel

but i will take a bunch of pics with the measuring tape

the pics are coming guys, so sorry to get u guys hyped up before i installed everything lol....i'm just waiting on brake pads to come so i can put everything together

oo and if there is any real concern about that crossover tube, it can be unscrewed and switched with the bleeding nipples...but i just dont get how to bleed this system, do i bleed it from both nipples? or just one? or one at a time? can someone shed some light for me please!!!

Deals Gap Rotary Rally 10-20-09 10:01 AM

Bleed from the inside, then outside nipple for each calipers.. Start off with the caliper farthest way from ABS (driver rear) to closest (passenger front).

Brent Dalton 10-20-09 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by dan81386 (Post 9571400)
has any one on this forum done this swap? were the brackets 1 off parts or are they a production part? it would be great if someone made these brackets so we could build a cheap bbk

http://robrobinette.com/bigbrake.htm

There is also some pertinent brake information in the article for anyone thinking of upgrading.

It never shows the picture of the caliper, but from SCC memory and the little bit of the caliper I can see it appears they are the Porsche "Big Reds". I run them on my track car. Fritz has also run these(I bought his set). Damian use to have a set that he tracked as well, which he sold to Andrew(GooRoo) and are on his car. I personally think it could be a cheap BBK. You use the 993TT Calipers and rotors. And you have to have a bracket made to fit the calipers on our cars(which an automotive machine shop should be more than capable of doing), and a custom hat made for the rotors to fit the offset(which Coleman Racing can make). BTW, at one point I fit these under my 17x8 Mazda BBS RZ wheels without issue.

Uncle Hungry 10-20-09 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by curacaosfinest (Post 9571175)
hes talking about the tube that goes from one side of the caliper to the other for the brake fluid...i was actually thinking about this myself and maybe you can help me...

i dont think it will make a difference and if i'm wrong please correct me..but i dont think moving that tube is necessary

If this was a problem it would be because the right caliper is on the left side ( or vise versa ), if the bleeder is on the bottom, just switch them. It does matter because it the bleeder is on the bottom they could be a bitch to bleed. I know this because the guy I bought the car from had the front calipers reversed.

curacaosfinest 10-20-09 10:12 PM

ok guys i decided that i'm going to drill the threads out of the FD's mounting holes

the evo has the same size 12mm bolt but a different thread, so i'm just going to shave the threads in the FD's mounting holes until the EVO's bolts slide through but fit snuggly (no play room)

whatever you guys do dont go and get OEM bolts, i priced them at mitsubishi at $8 a bolt! and $3 for a washer!!

i went to my local machine shop (hardware stores dont carry this bolt size) and they had bolts in the correct size M12-1.75

i picked up 4 bolts, 4 spring washers, and 4 flat washers...make sure you hardened steel bolts
i payed $7.89 for everything lol...

heres a pic of what i bought
Oh and i hope you guys know that all the pictures that i post up are clickable thumbnails to the full size photos

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG00420.jpg

curacaosfinest 10-21-09 01:08 PM

ok guys i re-mocked up everything to try and work out any issues that there could be now so when i'm ready to bolt everything in, it goes smoothly

i took a bunch of better high-res pics so you guys could see

uploading them now...ALL THE THUMBNAILS ARE CLICKABLE TO LARGER IMAGES!!!

curacaosfinest 10-21-09 01:30 PM

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0102.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0098.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0099.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0100.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0103.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0104.jpg

here is where you gota make the cut
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0093.jpg

this made me sooooo happy
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0107.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0109.jpg

heres the measurements...not very good pics cus i had to hold the measuring tape and take the picture
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0111.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...h_IMG_0112.jpg

FCNAred 10-21-09 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Hungry (Post 9573777)
If this was a problem it would be because the right caliper is on the left side ( or vise versa ), if the bleeder is on the bottom, just switch them. It does matter because it the bleeder is on the bottom they could be a bitch to bleed. I know this because the guy I bought the car from had the front calipers reversed.


i wouldn't presume to just switch them unless the pistons are not staggered

pacman74 10-21-09 01:53 PM

Thanks for doing all of this, I think I might try the same thing. However, I'd want to clean up/repaint the calipers before putting them on. Anybody know the best way to do this w/o losing the brembo logo?

Erdin 10-21-09 02:21 PM

Hi curacaosfines,
what ebay stor did you get the disks from iv tryed to find them and couldent, how soon before you can try them out?

curacaosfinest 10-21-09 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by FCNAred (Post 9575949)
i wouldn't presume to just switch them unless the pistons are not staggered

the pistons are staggered...i switched the nipples and tube today, so now the larger piston is above and the smaller piston is below


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