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pluto 02-25-10 01:46 AM

Rx7 track day anyone? Metroplex area...
 
how many of you are interested in doing a Rx7 track day at MSR Cresson?? There're a few car groups who has been doing this once or twice a year. This will be a good opportunity to stretch your car a little.

If we get enough interest, I will talk to MSR to setup a date.

SCCAITS 02-25-10 07:15 AM

interested

RedBaronII 02-25-10 07:22 AM

Shultz tried a few years ago and there were no takers other than Damon and me.
The crowd here is more into getting together, cruising to a bar and drink.
(nothing wrong with that) :nod:
It appears, that they don't want to track for fear of blowing up their engines. :lol:
I just signed up with BMWCCA for their event on April 10-11.
If you put something together, let me know, I'm in. :icon_tup:

silent_ninja_8 02-25-10 09:28 AM

Put me down! I've got a full track calendar so far at MSR, autox events, eagles canyon, so hopefully I'll see some of you guys that like to track at some of them. Baron I have that BMW on my list too, I'll try to make that one since you're going to be there. I'm heading down to Road Atlanta next month if anyone is interested in doing the NASA event there, there's gonna be quite a few 7s and 8s.

DrKillJoY 02-25-10 09:29 AM

Maybe we should do one at MSR Houston. :D

I might know someone who works there.

silent_ninja_8 02-25-10 09:57 AM

I've heard that's a great track. I'll have to make my way down there one of these days and try it out :)

DrKillJoY 02-25-10 10:00 AM

Let me know if you come down. I'm part of the team down there, generally work track safety.

pluto 02-25-10 11:29 AM

okay, so 20 people is the minimum. Do we even have that many cars in DFW??

mrb63083 02-25-10 11:34 AM

I'd defiantly go (pay) to watch and hang out. I'd bring the 7, but no track time for me. :)

silent_ninja_8 02-25-10 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by DrKillJoY (Post 9828765)
Let me know if you come down. I'm part of the team down there, generally work track safety.

awesome, definitely will. and pluto, i think there might be that many in the dfw area, but probably not enough that would want to track their cars though. and we don't necessarily have to limit it to rotaries, cause I doubt we'd get enough interest in it for just rotaries. Just like the PCA and BMW clubs, yeah most of the vehicles you'll see there are porsches or bmws but they'll let anyone go with them just to fill slots and get more money.

RedBaronII 02-25-10 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by silent_ninja_8 (Post 9828711)
Put me down! I've got a full track calendar so far at MSR, autox events, eagles canyon, so hopefully I'll see some of you guys that like to track at some of them. Baron I have that BMW on my list too, I'll try to make that one since you're going to be there. I'm heading down to Road Atlanta next month if anyone is interested in doing the NASA event there, there's gonna be quite a few 7s and 8s.

I have done the BMWCCA DE's for past 3 years.
They are well organized, not so crowded, always have plenty of refreshments, water and snacks (the other clubs offer water only) and they have a Club Race to watch.
Also, not snobish like the P car DE's, but don't tell that to the PCA crowd. :nod:

If you register early, before March 1st., you pay $275 instead of $325.
You save $50, plus early bird registration could win you a FREE registration to the DE event.
They have 1 Free spot for each class, so a total of 3 winners.

They will be running the 1.7 CW configuration, which is fun to do.
I have only done it once and even though is slower, it is a lot of fun.

Link to register:

http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...EDF6DD1634D6E5

RedBaronII 02-25-10 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by mrb63083 (Post 9828969)
I'd defiantly go (pay) to watch and hang out. I'd bring the 7, but no track time for me. :)

Marshall, no need to pay to go to the track and watch, it's FREE. :icon_tup:

habu2 02-25-10 01:55 PM

I'm interested, but my car is probably 6 to 8 weekends of work away from being back on the road.

mar3 02-25-10 02:12 PM

Count me in as interested. I should have one of the non-stock cars ready to go by Summer. The last time I did this, I had the '83 with a dying clutch and the almighty stock Mazda 95 hp to the rear wheels. It was all about staying off the brakes. :crackup:

But it was a lot of fun til the clutch started slipping bad.


:cool:

silent_ninja_8 02-25-10 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by RedBaronII (Post 9829217)
I have done the BMWCCA DE's for past 3 years.
They are well organized, not so crowded, always have plenty of refreshments, water and snacks (the other clubs offer water only) and they have a Club Race to watch.
Also, not snobish like the P car DE's, but don't tell that to the PCA crowd. :nod:

If you register early, before March 1st., you pay $275 instead of $325.
You save $50, plus early bird registration could win you a FREE registration to the DE event.
They have 1 Free spot for each class, so a total of 3 winners.

They will be running the 1.7 CW configuration, which is fun to do.
I have only done it once and even though is slower, it is a lot of fun.

Link to register:

http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...EDF6DD1634D6E5

Great, thanks for the heads up! Sounds like they have a pretty good organization. Maybe you can teach me some stuff then at some of the events since you've been doing it awhile. I've just recently got into the track (started end of last year) and still trying to learn as much as I can. Still consider myself quite the noob in the rotary and track world :P haha.

Anywho back to the topic, at the very least if we're not able to set up an MSR track day, all of us that do like to track need to start sharing our schedules and at least try running some of the same events.

rotorholic 02-25-10 05:00 PM

Is there a track website?

pluto 02-25-10 05:12 PM

Well, I'm an instructor for Thedriversedge and apex driving academy so there's no reason to join other sanction body since I get to run with them for free. I thought it would be cool to get a few of us together for a track day and I don't mind paying for that. If not, I can always see you guys in one of the two events I help out.

pluto 02-25-10 05:14 PM

You can check motorsportranch.com for their track. They also have a calender and links for which weekend is open and rented out to certain groups.



Originally Posted by rotorholic (Post 9829667)
Is there a track website?


silent_ninja_8 02-25-10 05:27 PM

Great pluto, I got a few events with drivers edge and apex on my calendar as well. So I'm sure you'll be instructing me at some point haha.

RedBaronII 02-25-10 06:33 PM

I have done lots of both organizations.
Here is IMHO:
Apex- not crowded at all, 6-7 session in one day, is better for continuity and flow.
You get all of your 20-25 minutes on the track. Not much time between track time, so adrenalin is flowing high.
John plays the tough guy roll well, but is cool and funny.
Other organizations you get cheated (PCA).:icon_tdow
TDE- great group of guys, very crowded track and therefore lots of trains.
Run is over 2 days and lots of time between track time.
Both are well organized and run a good event.
I favor Apex, because is all in 1 day, not crowded and a married man out of the house for the weekend, does not sit well with the wife. :lol:

pluto 02-25-10 06:48 PM

LOL!! you just need to tell your wife you need a guys weekend out and that she can name any place for your next vacation!!! As for me, I just needed an excuse to test my car out with the new changes. Last time I took my car out, I spun out twice because my tires couldn't get enough heat.....



Originally Posted by RedBaronII (Post 9829863)
I have done lots of both organizations.
Here is IMHO:
Apex- not crowded at all, 6-7 session in one day, is better for continuity and flow.
You get all of your 20-25 minutes on the track. Not much time between track time, so adrenalin is flowing high.
John plays the tough guy roll well, but is cool and funny.
Other organizations you get cheated (PCA).:icon_tdow
TDE- great group of guys, very crowded track and therefore lots of trains.
Run is over 2 days and lots of time between track time.
Both are well organized and run a good event.
I favor Apex, because is all in 1 day, not crowded and a married man out of the house for the weekend, does not sit well with the wife. :lol:


7racer 02-25-10 11:22 PM

I'm interested but haven't had time to work on the 7 as it has been perpetually up on jack stands.

If I can't get the car back together can I bring the GT-R?

Texas_Ace 02-25-10 11:23 PM

What kinda price range would we be looking at for MSR? More then i can afford i fear.

If i could not sure if the RX7 would be running, might have to show up in the MR2.

pluto 02-25-10 11:27 PM

The price is $95 for the track day. It's very reasonable. We could however do the eagles canyon. They usually have an appreciation day once a month. not sure what the price is. I need to talk to ken to find out more

Texas_Ace 02-25-10 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by pluto (Post 9830527)
The price is $95. It's very reasonable.

Really? that IS reasonable. I was thinking $250 like most track days out there.

Well depending on when this would go down and if my car is ready (both RX7 and MR2 are in differnt states of repair right now) MR2 will be done first though if all goes well and it is the one i would want to take to the track. Would i be hung if i came in a piston powered car lol?

If so i know a few other MR2 drivers that might be interested as well and a few others that might be interested in some cheap track time if you wanted to open it up to other cars. Kinda doubt we would get 20 RX7's honestly.

Texas_Ace 02-25-10 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by pluto (Post 9830527)
The price is $95 for the track day. It's very reasonable. We could however do the eagles canyon. They usually have an appreciation day once a month. not sure what the price is. I need to talk to ken to find out more

Unless it was much cheaper i prefer MSR personally, plus it is closer to me ;-)

But do see what they have price wise, maybe they would cut a deal. I would need new tires before being able to hit the track which is not going to be cheap.

pluto 02-26-10 12:05 AM

yes, do invite as many as you can. I'm in the process of gaining interest at this point. If I know we get enough people, I will talk to them to get an exact date.

Texas_Ace 02-26-10 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by pluto (Post 9830594)
yes, do invite as many as you can. I'm in the process of gaining interest at this point. If I know we get enough people, I will talk to them to get an exact date.

Well i will pass the word around and see what i come up with, will need a few details to pass along though. Need to nail down MSR or EC, more people i know would go to MSR just due to the 1.5 hour drive to EC in cars that are not street leagle for track duty lol.

Price, is $95 for sure the final cost?

and aprox when this would take place? Hopfully it would be a month or 2 out at least, my car is still a month away from being drivable at least.

Let me know as much as you know and i will makea few calls and send a few e-mails to see what i come up with.

RedBaronII 02-26-10 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by 7racer (Post 9830509)
I'm interested but haven't had time to work on the 7 as it has been perpetually up on jack stands.
If I can't get the car back together can I bring the GT-R?

Bob, last I heard is, that you converted the RX7 into a perpetual art installation piece in your garage. :nod:
Rumor has it, that you gold plated the jack stands and chromed the inside of the exhaust.
Also, that since you climb the Kilimanjaro, you decorated the interior of the RX7 with Chagga motifs and speak only in Swahili to your patients. :scratch:


*$95 is dirt cheap for a track day, don't see how it could get any cheaper, since more people would have to sign up and that would kill the fun with a crowded track.

silent_ninja_8 02-26-10 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by pluto (Post 9830527)
The price is $95 for the track day. It's very reasonable. We could however do the eagles canyon. They usually have an appreciation day once a month. not sure what the price is. I need to talk to ken to find out more

I'm not sure if you're talking about the ECR track days they have once a month or if you're referring to trying to get a special deal just for us. But their track days they have once a month for anyone are $150 for a day. I was out there last weekend for this months track day, not a lot of people were there (only 6 in my run group) so that was nice at least, no trains or anything. $95 is a steal, I don't think I've ever seen an event that cheap, definitely count me in.

pluto 02-26-10 10:45 AM

$95 is for the MSR. I didn't know how much it was for EC... so it's $150 for EC and $95 for MSR. that sounds about right....






Originally Posted by silent_ninja_8 (Post 9830987)
I'm not sure if you're talking about the ECR track days they have once a month or if you're referring to trying to get a special deal just for us. But their track days they have once a month for anyone are $150 for a day. I was out there last weekend for this months track day, not a lot of people were there (only 6 in my run group) so that was nice at least, no trains or anything. $95 is a steal, I don't think I've ever seen an event that cheap, definitely count me in.


Texas_Ace 02-26-10 11:02 AM

Hey, pluto, I was just looking at your sig and you say you are on E85 and live in Fort worth.

Could you please share where you manage to find E85 in DFW, i only know of 1 station in all of DFW and it is a good 30+ min drive from me. I really want to swap to E85 but just can't find it.

pluto 02-26-10 11:08 AM

There is a Kroger E85 gas station of hwy 26.

Texas_Ace 02-26-10 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by pluto (Post 9831289)
There is a Kroger E85 gas station of hwy 26.

Nice, have you ever tested the E85? Is it fresh and actually E85 and not E70 or somthing else? Ever dirty?

With stations that don't use much of it the E85 can get dirty or can not be real E85.

RedBaronII 02-26-10 11:27 AM

I think, that the dirty gas is a myth or is over rated.
I have put expensive and cheap gas from every brand you can think of in 10 years on my car.
I recently did some work inside the gas tank and the gas tank was spic and span.
No dirt, no oil, no water, no rust, no nothing!!!!
Gas stations have a few inline filters to take care of this, reason I do believe this dirt in the gas is over rated.

Texas_Ace 02-26-10 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by RedBaronII (Post 9831328)
I think, that the dirty gas is a myth or is over rated.
I have put expensive and cheap gas from every brand you can think of in 10 years on my car.
I recently did some work inside the gas tank and the gas tank was spic and span.
No dirt, no oil, no water, no rust, no nothing!!!!
Gas stations have a few inline filters to take care of this, reason I do believe this dirt in the gas is over rated.

With normal gas i agree with you, it is true but overrated. Usually it is the midgrade that has a problem since it is the least used.

E85 is differnt though, and since people test it we actually look at it more then gas and i have seen dirty E85. With stations like the ones around here that get virtually no E85 buissness it can sit for a long time, dirty may not be the case but diluted or E70 it can. Stations like these like to get E70 or "winter blend" E85 since it is cheaper and last longer from what i am told.

Not the end of the world either way, just a good idea ot check the E85 at the pump from time to time to make sure it is consistant and what you think it is. Going from E85 o E70 is like losing almost 5 oct points which needless to say is not good on a tuned motor.

Texas_Ace 02-26-10 02:02 PM

Any details on how much track time we will get, how long the sessions will be? how many sessions we will get?

Got a few people interested but they need more details.

mar3 02-26-10 02:24 PM

For $95, I'll bring my Parents' bone-stock '85 GSL if neither modded car is ready...that is a helluvadeal. :eek:

EJayCe996 02-26-10 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by DrKillJoY (Post 9828713)
Maybe we should do one at MSR Houston. :D

I might know someone who works there.

Liez, you can't fool me, Jac-wee, or AJ

If I have my car running, perhaps :)

pluto 02-26-10 08:45 PM

I have not done any testing on the quality but even if it's E70 (approx 100 octane). I think it is more than plenty for our application if we stay below 25psi. (note: 100octane on Ethanol is almost like 110octane in race fuel).





Originally Posted by Texas_Ace (Post 9831335)
With normal gas i agree with you, it is true but overrated. Usually it is the midgrade that has a problem since it is the least used.

E85 is differnt though, and since people test it we actually look at it more then gas and i have seen dirty E85. With stations like the ones around here that get virtually no E85 buissness it can sit for a long time, dirty may not be the case but diluted or E70 it can. Stations like these like to get E70 or "winter blend" E85 since it is cheaper and last longer from what i am told.

Not the end of the world either way, just a good idea ot check the E85 at the pump from time to time to make sure it is consistant and what you think it is. Going from E85 o E70 is like losing almost 5 oct points which needless to say is not good on a tuned motor.


pluto 02-26-10 08:47 PM

this is what you get for $95... typical session is around 20mins

Course schedule: Registration
1st Classroom Session
Lead & Follow
2nd Classroom Session
Lead & Follow
3rd Classroom Session
Group “A” Solo Session
Group “B” Solo Session
Group “A” Solo Session
Group “B” Solo Session

What to bring? A Vehicle
Driver license
Long Pants
Snell Rated Helmet (Rental helmets will be available at an additional fee)
Enthusiasm!

Cost: $95.00 per driver

Texas_Ace 02-26-10 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by pluto (Post 9832492)
this is what you get for $95... typical session is around 20mins

Course schedule: Registration
1st Classroom Session
Lead & Follow
2nd Classroom Session
Lead & Follow
3rd Classroom Session
Group “A” Solo Session
Group “B” Solo Session
Group “A” Solo Session
Group “B” Solo Session

What to bring? A Vehicle
Driver license
Long Pants
Snell Rated Helmet (Rental helmets will be available at an additional fee)
Enthusiasm!

Cost: $95.00 per driver

Great, just what i needed.

7racer 02-27-10 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBaronII (Post 9830945)
Bob, last I heard is, that you converted the RX7 into a perpetual art installation piece in your garage. :nod:
Rumor has it, that you gold plated the jack stands and chromed the inside of the exhaust.
Also, that since you climb the Kilimanjaro, you decorated the interior of the RX7 with Chagga motifs and speak only in Swahili to your patients. :scratch:


*$95 is dirt cheap for a track day, don't see how it could get any cheaper, since more people would have to sign up and that would kill the fun with a crowded track.

I KNOW I KNOW!!!!!! In the meantime here is a pic :nod:

hades 02-27-10 06:25 PM

i would like to come. i don't think my car is ready to be pushed - tires, bushing and shocks needed. but I would like to come just learn and have a few 'slow' laps around the track.

Texas_Ace 03-01-10 11:20 PM

I have at least 1 guy In so far and a few others thinking about it.

silent_ninja_8 03-01-10 11:49 PM

Guess we could start a list and see how many we actually have that would be interested.

1. silent_ninja_8

Texas_Ace 03-02-10 12:25 AM

Sure, why not.

1. silent_ninja_8
2: Texas_Ace
3: Rdubs (from MR2oc)

mrb63083 03-02-10 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by RedBaronII (Post 9830945)
Bob, last I heard is, that you converted the RX7 into a perpetual art installation piece in your garage. :nod:
Rumor has it, that you gold plated the jack stands and chromed the inside of the exhaust.
Also, that since you climb the Kilimanjaro, you decorated the interior of the RX7 with Chagga motifs and speak only in Swahili to your patients. :scratch:


:lol:

RedBaronII 03-02-10 08:19 AM

1. silent_ninja_8
2: Texas_Ace
3: Rdubs (from MR2oc)
4- Red Baron II

mar3 03-02-10 02:12 PM

I'm in....
 
1. silent_ninja_8
2: Texas_Ace
3: Rdubs (from MR2oc)
4: Red Baron II
5: mar3


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