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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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picked up a 91 vert

I found a 91 vert on craigslist. $650 Haven't got it running yet, but soon hopefully.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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great find. congrats.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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So you were all the way down in Alvin and didn't stop by?

Pull start that Ho!
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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I almost went to go look at it. Looks like the same one that was at a small used car dealership on 518. Guess I missed out.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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The south Texas sun is hell on paint and rubber ....
Good luck with it. I love my S5 vert but am looking forward to more HP when it runs again.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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I almost went to go look at it. Looks like the same one that was at a small used car dealership on 518. Guess I missed out.
same here! good luck with it, looks like its got a lot of potential!
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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So you were all the way down in Alvin and didn't stop by?

Pull start that Ho!
Good call Scott, got her running...real ruff, smoked all around the block...lol. Going to check the timing, I think it is off.

swilson@assetworks.com The south Texas sun is hell on paint and rubber .... It looks like the faded parts are bad but that is coming off when I scratch it with my fingernail... maybe oxidation or old wax??
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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^^^ Thats not oxidation or wax - thats clear coat!
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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if you cant get it running, can i buy the wheels?
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lunardeathgod
if you cant get it running, can i buy the wheels?
It's running. I think in "limp mode"
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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^^^ Clear codes from ECU and then lookie-see.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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^^^ can't pull any codes?? maybe ecu is fried?
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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is the vert ecu any different from a coupe?
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 12:08 AM
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no just different numbers. i have a n351 in mine now.but n352 works as well the other one i cant remember
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by onefastrx712a
^^^ can't pull any codes?? maybe ecu is fried?
it woulden't run at all if it was fried.
you need to do some hard searching in the second gen section.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Stolen from 1300cc.com (go there if you need the pictures):

Checking the codes on a 89-91

All you need is a piece of wire, your car key, and the list of codes below.



Right beside the battery and the coil there should be a single green plug. Stick one end of the wire in there. Now ground the other end to the battery "-" or the frame. now stick the key in the ign. and turn it to "on" (not start!!). if you have codes stored, the check engine light should turn off for a few secs. then will come on and start flashing. if it's on for more then a sec. then that is a count of 10. If it is flashing fast that is a one. for examble the code #31 would be "---- ---- ---- -" then it will stop for a few secs, and repeat it (asuming only one code is stored) If more then one code is pressent, it will show the lowest # first. and display the rest in order.

(89 turbo shown)

here is what the #'s mean, taken from a '90 fatory workshop manual. should be the same for 89-91

* turbo only

~ non turbo only

Code# Input Device malfunction Fail-safe function
01 trailing ignition coil malfunction of spark plug, broken wire, short circuit Trailing side ignitions pulse cut
02 crank angle sensor (ne sensor) broken wire, short circuit fuel injection and ignition cut
03 crank angle sensor (g sensor) broken wire, short circuit fuel injection and ignition cut
05* knock sensor Broken wire, short circuit Ignition timming retarded
08 airflow meter (AFM) broken wire, short circuit basic fuel injection amount and fixed timing
09 water thermosensor broken wire, short circuit coolant temp fixed at 80 degrees C (176F)
10 intake air thermosensor (AFM) broken wire, short circuit intake air temp fixed at 20C (68F)
11 intake air thermosensor (engine) broken wire, short circuit intake air temp fixed at 20C (68F)
12 Throttle sensor (full range) broken wire, short circuit throttle valve opening angle signal fixed at 20%
13 pressure sensor (intake manifold) broken wire, short circuit intake pressure fixed at 760 mmHg (29.9 inhg)
14 atmospheric pressure sensor malfunctioning ECU at. Pressure fixed at 760 mmHg
15 oxygen sensor oxygen sensor output remains below 0.55v 80 sec. after F/B system operation beginning feedback system canceled(for EGI)
17 feedback system oxygen sensor output remains 0.55v 10 sec. after F/B system operation beginning feedback system canceled(for EGI)
18 throttle sensor (narrow range) broken wire, short circuit signal fixed at full open
20 metering oil pump position sensor broken wire, short circuit Mop fixed smallest open. basic fuel amount and timing fixed
27 metering oil pump (MOP) malfunctioning MOP, step motors, broken wire, short circuit, or malfunctioning ECU Mop fixed smallest open,basic fuel amount and timing fixed
37 metering oil pump (MOP) malfunctioning MOP, step motors, broken wire, short circuit, or malfunctioning ECU basic fuel amount and timing fixed

Code # Output device
25 solenoid valve (pressure regulator control (PRC))
26 step motor (MOP)
30 split air solenoid valve
31 solenoid valve (relief)
32 solenoid valve (switch)
33 port air solenoid valve
34 solenoid valve (bypass air control (bac))
38 solenoid valve (accelerated warm-up system)
40~ auxiliary port valve
41~ solenoid valve (variable dynamic effect intake control (vdi))
42* Duty solenoid (turbo boost pressure control)
51 fuel pump resistor relay
71 injector (front secondary)
73 injector (rear secondary)

after you get the codes out and fix the problem (or even before) you have to reset the ECU to get rid of them.

Just disconnect the Neg battery terminal for more then 5 secs. If the codes come back then you didn't fix the problem.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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^^^ awesome. Thanks Scott
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by philiptompkins
it woulden't run at all if it was fried.
you need to do some hard searching in the second gen section.
I have been searching ~~~~~ Thats how I found out about "limp mode"
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Well I tried to pull the codes and the check engine light comes on then goes off for a sec. then comes back on and stays on. No blinking, I waited for at least a min. So where should I go from here? Swap out my ecu for another?
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Another problem with the vert is that I can't get the top to move? Also the radio won't come on, headrest speakers switch doesn't work.. don't know if those have anything to with each other? Yes I have checked the fuses. Yes I have searched and didn't find anything useful. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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bad top usually = bad switch, bad wiring, bad motor or jammed top.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Talking Free the top..............

Originally Posted by onefastrx712a
Another problem with the vert is that I CAN'T GET THE TOP TO MOVE? Any help would be appreciated.
================================================== ===
THE TOP:
If switch/motor is out, you can free the top from the motor (behind passenger, side rear panel) gear by backing off the center hub nut until movable. SEE THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL or dealer's part dept. diagrams.

My '89 top is easy enough up/down manually; haven't bothered to repair it. Hope this works for yours.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by topdownbackroads
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THE TOP:
If switch/motor is out, you can free the top from the motor (behind passenger, side rear panel) gear by backing off the center hub nut until movable. SEE THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL or dealer's part dept. diagrams.

My '89 top is easy enough up/down manually; haven't bothered to repair it. Hope this works for yours.
LD.
Thanks
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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You have to set the parking brake to get the top to work.

No radio worky = no headrest speaker switch worky.

Maybe someone had an aftermarket head unit in there and just tossed it back in the hole when they sold the car. I dunno.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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^^^ Yeah I tried the parking brake
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