Uh, who the hell told you that???

That stupid cut just basically waste about $500 you paid for the turbo exhaust manifold, cause you could've bought a collected version for under $300.



-Ted

so one small cut, that seems to be part of the design, in my divided manifold make it no better than a fully collected manifold. I think not, but I do agree it would be better without the cut, but it just couldn't be as bad as collected.

No, that cut isn't stock.  The HKS manifolds do not come with that small notch in the divider unless they suddenly changed their design within the past year or so.

You need to brush up on the collected versus divided debate in terms of exhaust design.  That notch pretty much obliterated the advantage of the full divided exhaust design, and the putz who cut that out should be taken out and shot.


-Ted

I agree 100%. That cut is a bad thing, but no were near as bad as the LOG style collected manifolds.

I also agree 100%...lol

~Mike............

Wow i didn't realize it was that bad. The thing is that it wasn't cut by someone after casting, that cut is part of the cast. Their are no scratches or cutting marks. The cut has the same consistancy with the reast of the manifold. Oh well whats done is done. It still feels great and Im still smiling. I will know better next time.

Thanks guys,
M-P

Any news from the dyno yet??

I am still waiting on a dyno date. Some guys are trying to put it together now. Shouldn't be much longer and if they think it will be a while I will just go on my own, cause I really want to know.

Sweet, I would really look at the dyno in Charlotte. That's my home town. I lived in Charleston, SC for the last 5 years as well. All of you FD guys from Charlotte and the area need to hook up with the SC crew. We are a very very close group and we're always looking to meet more rotorheads. PM me if there's anything I can do for you.

Zach

i am looking to buy that same turbo. can you list a breakdown of all the parts that you used because you didnt get the kit and how much it costs??

thanks

Yea I will do a write-up tonight, when I get a chance to look at all the stuff I used.

thanks

Ok here is everything I got and where you can get it.

From www.cheapturbo.com
Garret T04R w/ .84 A/R...........$950
Wet Center Section.................$75
Polish Compressor Housing....$60
HPC Coat Exhaust Housing.....$60
V-Band TIG Welding................$40
V-Band Discharge Kit..............$115
T4 Oil Return Flange...............$25

Subtotal: $1325

From www.rx7store.com
HKS Cast Exhaust Manifold......$599
HKS 50mm Racing Wastegate..$550

Subtotal: $1149

From www.anplumbing.com
Earls fittings and hoses(don't have individual prices)...
14mm to -4an male, -4an female to -3an male, -3an hose end, 2ft(cut to length) -3an braided hose, -3an hose end, -3an male to 1/8" NPT, 1/2" NPT to -12an hose end, 2ft(cut to length, need less than 1ft) -12an braided hose, hose clamp

Subtotal ~$100

From http://intenseperformance.com
S&B 4" inlet, 6" long Air Filter....$38

From 18wheeler shop
4" 90 degree elbow pipe...........$15

From www.atpturbo.com
4" Silicone Coupler.....................$8

From muffler shop
Get downpipe, dump pipe, and IC pipe made....$150

TOTAL PRICE: $2785

That is absolutely everything I used. None of this included shipping. Hope this helps you guys out.

Thats alot cheaper than even the xs TO4E kit now isn't it:D

Any other info needed just ask.

thats really cheap. my firend bought turbo's from cheapturbo.com for his 3000GT VR4 and he said they have great prices and service.

but how much did you have to spend on the setup overall? i mean with the pfc and the fuel system and everything because i heard it takes a good $5-8k to go single. is this true?

Yea, Here is the rest of the stuff. May have a few small things missing here and there, but here goes nothing. I did the Fuel last May and the ECU and Intercooler the November before that. So I have been preparing for single turbo ever since I got the car pretty much.

at www.rx7store.net
Apex'i Power FC w/ Commander $1250
RX7 Store Extreme Fuel System $850
ACT Xtreme Street Clutch $505 (traded my stock seats for it)
Apex'i AVC-R $450
HKS Twin Power Ignition w/ harness $547 (don't have this yet)
HKS Frontmount I/C $1289 (the one I have)
or
Greddy FMIC $899 or $1250 (piping to twins or single)
Block Off Plate Kit $65 (made my own cheap ones though)
PWR Radiator $419
Pettit AST $149
Defi' Boost Gauge w/pod $155

at www.rx7.com
RP Triple Pulley Kit for Airpump removal $350

other parts from random places
HKS Racing Bypass Valve $200
Rotorsports Racing Plug wires $80

That is a total of $6244 for the all the supporting mods if your car is about bone stock other than exhaust.

So grand total with turbo and all is.......alot.......$9029

I am sure alot of people would already have some of the mods listed, but that is a total price. Does not include any engine work though. My next step. Buying a core for a rebuild and large streetporting. Then I will be set for life. Haha, probably not.

M-P

After doin a extensive 2 day search for a good, full picture of the engine bay of a FD that had any sort of the XS T04anything turbo upgrade, I am sad to say I have turned up empty handed. I saw the ones that he posted but I am lookin for a kinda full engine bay pic. And i kinda wanted a pic of the XS T04S installed if possible. Can anyone help me?

So the big question..

What is the real difference between the $950 T04R and the $3000 HKS one?

Well not a whole lot other than there are a few things that HKS has custom spec from Garrett made specifically for them and noone else. But this is not enough to justify the price being 3x more. Also I believe that the back side of the HKS turbo is not a v-band flange but a bolt on one instead. I say save yourself the 2000 dollars from the HKS kit and just go with the kit I pieced together. I'm sure there is more performance with the HKS kit, but not $2000 more. Although it does use their stainless manifold and S/S wastegate compared to my cast iron of each. But you just have to add 400 to the price of my kit and get the same thing.

M-P

Still no dyno sheets??

Sorry but no dyno numbers yet. I have been really busy with school and what not, but I will have some numbers soon.

whats so bad about the iron manifold?

RUST

HEAVY

THERMAL EXPENSION

I am hoping to see some good news from the dyno soon. Still nothing 0110??

Zach

really nice , that manifold is a great piece to bad about the notch though ,....oh well at least you will never have manifold cracks ,...also you have a microswich an youre throttle-body is that nitrous???

need......dyno....need......numbers.....when do you think you'll have it dynoed? what are you looking at hp wise? i have a .96 t04R on a streetport, and im kinda using your setup to judge....good luck

neil

0110-m-p, "From muffler shop
Get downpipe, dump pipe, and IC pipe made....$150"
I currently need to do this. How did you go about it. I mean they didn't have your car right there to work on, correct? How did you give them the info they needed to built , say the DP, so that it lined up pefectly with your midpipe? Thanks