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london 06-20-02 09:32 AM

To4r
 
How much i the max hp can i get out of a TO4R and is it better than a T66.

Greg 06-20-02 09:42 AM

What are the specs of the T04R are planning on using? Comp wheel sizing etc...etc.... They are similar sized turbos

tofstchvy 06-21-02 07:02 AM

Soul dynoed at 620rwhp on his to4r

SPEED_NYC 06-21-02 07:34 AM

620 RW???
i dont vtrememberr his #'s being that high.

what PSI was this at?
was that with the full bridge? or Half?

Thanx
Roan

jspecracer7 06-21-02 07:57 AM


Originally posted by tofstchvy
Soul dynoed at 620rwhp on his to4r
WHAT?!?!?! I remember seeing 520 rwhp with a half bridge boosting 1.4 kilos on a HKS T-04R:confused:

Greg 06-21-02 07:58 AM


Originally posted by SPEED_NYC
620 RW???
i dont vtrememberr his #'s being that high.

what PSI was this at?
was that with the full bridge? or Half?

Thanx
Roan


SPEED_NYC 06-21-02 08:50 AM

yeah, i remember the #'s being in the 540RWHP range on the half bridge.

then he went full bridge and blew up before he made any real power. as far as I know his car isn't back together yet.

when did this 620RWHP happen?
what turbo?
what boost?

has anyone seen Alf on here lately?
he's in the states now right?


Originally posted by jspecracer7


WHAT?!?!?! I remember seeing 520 rwhp with a half bridge boosting 1.4 kilos on a HKS T-04R:confused:


wankawankel 06-21-02 08:53 AM

:bsflag: Lets see the actual dyno run ladies, then talk. Paper trails don't fool me. I can get a friends 800 whp dyno run for you now, and claim it mine. Don't be too gullible...

SPOautos 06-21-02 09:07 AM


Originally posted by wankawankel
:bsflag: Lets see the actual dyno run ladies, then talk. Paper trails don't fool me. I can get a friends 800 whp dyno run for you now, and claim it mine. Don't be too gullible...

Hmm, yea like you would know. You should just stick with wanking your wankel, its not like you know anything about building a high hp rotary. Oh wait I know they must be full of shit cause they didnt use a Mazda reman with a T88 like you did, they must not know what they are doing haha

STEPHEN

RETed 06-21-02 01:38 PM

Godamn stupid Supra owners...go away.


-Ted

jspecracer7 06-21-02 02:37 PM


Originally posted by RETed
Godamn stupid Supra owners...go away.


-Ted

LOL....but he fails to realize is that people listen to soul assassin...

jspecracer7 06-21-02 02:39 PM


Originally posted by SPEED_NYC
yeah, i remember the #'s being in the 540RWHP range on the half bridge.

then he went full bridge and blew up before he made any real power. as far as I know his car isn't back together yet.

when did this 620RWHP happen?
what turbo?
what boost?

has anyone seen Alf on here lately?
he's in the states now right?


Alf should be getting stationed in Arizona. Don't know his report date(I don't know him that well), so it might be a month because of leave. Hopefully he can get back on and let everyone know how the full bridge went...and pass along the secrets of shipping a car back to the states!!!

Marcel Burkett 06-22-02 07:56 AM

Can someone please forget Alf (?) and answer the original question .

jspecracer7 06-22-02 08:01 AM


Originally posted by Marcel Burkett
Can someone please forget Alf (?) and answer the original question .
Okay, then what boost? 1 kilo, 1.5 kilos, 2.0 kilos...no wastegate...

relvinnian 06-22-02 08:09 AM


Originally posted by Marcel Burkett
Can someone please forget Alf (?) and answer the original question .
Here is what RICE RACING quoted me in regards to the T04R. Keep in mind this is with a 1.32 exhaust housing:

A T66 size compressor would be more beneficial for general engine response
with out resorting to NOS for revs around 4000rpm.

If you look for a larger compressor map you will be looking at 5000 to
5500rpm before the turbo will start to make 70 to 80% of the maximum boost
setting....

You can run a T66 and still have the best of both worlds, at the expense of
slightly higher intake temperatures at the high pressure ratios you want to
run 70lb/min is no problem (despite being near the end of the map) If you
want better turbo response and a wider power band while still using the 1.3*
exhaust housing. If you want the lowest intake charge temp and are no
worried about the transient response of the turbo then the T70 would be a
better choice.

Now for me I supply Garrett based turbo's...One option is a T04R which is
between the T66 and T70, it is an excellent turbo and would give a real good
balance between HP and response, power handling is around 700BHP on a 13B
with 1.32 rear housing...The cost for this unit is around $2800Aus.

relvinnian 06-22-02 08:10 AM

In other words, unless you are running over 26psi, a t-61 - t-66 is optimal.

jspecracer7 06-22-02 08:19 AM


Originally posted by relvinnian
Okay, so then a T-04R is a T-68. From what I understand it is a 68-1 wheel but trimmed ...

either way...I'll be going T-66;)

Marcel Burkett 06-22-02 10:15 AM

Hell yeah !!!!!!! ................ T66 all the way!!.

Silver93T 06-22-02 05:41 PM

Wanka what did your t88 dyno at 300 rwhp? Stock motor and t88 is stupidity.

jspecracer7 06-22-02 08:05 PM


Originally posted by Silver93TT
Wanka what did your t88 dyno at 300 rwhp? Stock motor and t88 is stupidity.
lol...Wanka's too cool for school:D

Rogue 06-22-02 08:30 PM


Originally posted by Silver93TT
Wanka what did your t88 dyno at 300 rwhp? Stock motor and t88 is stupidity.
before or after he blew up on the dyno? :D

tofstr32gtr 06-23-02 08:21 AM

With the full bridge at 1.4 boost he made 620. When we started tuning for 1.6 the front apex seal went. Traced it to the FC coils. Since then we put FD coils, three msd 6a boxes and a t51Kai in. Just got it fired on sat. and need to get it broken in and tuned so we can ship to soul in AZ.

Greg 06-23-02 08:55 AM


Originally posted by tofstr32gtr
With the full bridge at 1.4 boost he made 620. When we started tuning for 1.6 the front apex seal went. Traced it to the FC coils. Since then we put FD coils, three msd 6a boxes and a t51Kai in. Just got it fired on sat. and need to get it broken in and tuned so we can ship to soul in AZ.
WOW Thats GREAT!!!!620 rwhp at 20.5 psi!! Can you guys send me your majic turbos and engines.

Greg 06-23-02 09:08 AM


Originally posted by jspecracer7


Okay, so then a T-04R is a T-68. From what I understand it is a 68-1 wheel but trimmed ...

either way...I'll be going T-66;)

Here are the specs on a to4r

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 63 Trim - 66.7 Inducer / 84.0 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 60 Outlet - 0.70 A/R
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 74.2 Major / 64.7 Exducer
-Housing- T04 inlet / 65.75 outlet - 0.81, 0.96, 1.15 A/R]


Why pay that amount of money for a T04R when you can get from a T66 to a T72 turbo for much less

Greg 06-23-02 09:14 AM


Originally posted by jspecracer7


Okay, so then a T-04R is a T-68. From what I understand it is a 68-1 wheel but trimmed ...

either way...I'll be going T-66;)

yeap save yorself a G! :D


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