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Z06-KILLR 12-12-01 03:22 PM

T88 set up...a car I am buying...questions..help???
 
What do you guys think about this set up??? I am looking at purchasing this car in the next few days...........It is a 93 with 29,000 miles on the body and 1,200 miles on the rebuilt and bridgeported engine.....I...know quite a bit about 300ZXtt and Supras but not a whole lot about rotaries...your help is appreciated. Thanks in advance:

- T88 turbo by Greddy
- Apex FMIC intercooler
- Sheep dog bov's (2) (love than name)
- Mazda speed full body (wide body) kit
- True Advan 18' wheels (18x8.5 and 18 x 9.5)
- Greddy Profec boost controller
- Mazda speed leather seats
- Bridgeported engine w/apex seals (Japan only??)
- full roll cage/fuel cell with battery on trunk
- revs at 10,000 rpm.......WTF, is this true??
- Haltech ECU programmable
- Secondary 1600 injectors ???
- two fuel pumps on set up
- 29,000 miles on car - 1,000 on engine/turbo
- top speed 175 (with shorter gear ratio- this I don't doubt)
- straight piping from the turbo out
- Brembo big brake kit (not installed)
- Tokiko adjustable with Eibach springs
- front and rear sway bars and strut bars (Mazda speed)
- Apex gauges for temp, boost, water temp (has Autometer now).

Again, thanks a lot!!!!!

the car doesn't have the fuel gauge hooked up to the cell so it is really hard to keep track.......this should not be too hard, right???? He also has a carbon drive shaft but I am debating on the installation....so my questions would be:

1. How reliable would this car be?
2. I am planning to put in about 4,000 miles/year with the ocassional trip to the 1/4 for tuning......how much boost can I safely run on the streets? What would be things you guys would ask about???

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your help!!

Angel

wankawankel 12-12-01 07:19 PM

I have almost the identical specs on my 93 FD. Everything but the bridge port and haltech. I went with the Apexi PFC for my EMS. Reliability is out the door. Bridgeport? Give or take 2 race seasons and get ready for another rebuild. T88? You won't see under 17psi daily, the wastegate doesn't go under that. And a Rx7 isn't reliable after you modify it. I mean comparing to a Supra and a 3Z. If you did those similar modifications to those cars that the Rx7 has, you would see an easy 1000HP or more. And detonation wouldn't be too much a factor. Carl...

black99 12-12-01 07:21 PM

The car sounded pretty decent til you said that the fuel gauge wasn't hooked up to the fuel cell and that can be a bit tricky for long trips. It sounds like it has some nice JDM stuff on it though, like the sheep dog BOV's and that Advan's. A bridge port some people would say is a kind of big port for the street, most people go with just a "street port" and a bridge port is sometimes considered a "race port", but that is your own preference and personally I would think you would see how drivable it is when you go to test drive it. The car sounds like it is very nice, I would be interested to see pics, but it sounds like a very high horsepower car if it was tuned right. Can I ask how much he wants for it???

black99 12-12-01 07:25 PM

And I have heard that you can get upto 30k out of a bridgeported motor...

JoeD 12-12-01 08:07 PM

wtf is a "sheep dog" blow off valve??

Brad 12-13-01 12:45 AM

I think wankawankel has just had some problems with rotaries in the past and may be a little bitter :D

Dan Putnam 12-13-01 02:18 AM

it's a Japanese Blow off
 
Sheep Dog is Japanese Blow off valve. Anyway, on that note, went to Japan a while ago, it was hilarious. They put english wherever they can, even if it doesn't make any sense or is completely out of syntax. I just hope american car manufacturing doesn't rub off on them anytime soon
-Dan

Z06-KILLR 12-13-01 08:23 AM

thanks for everyone's feedback....

Black99:
I am currently considering an even trade....my 01'S2001 w/5,900 miles and loaded (including hardtop), straight accross for this car....here are a few pics of this beauty (the RX7 of course:D )..........

http://www.z32.org/unsorted/jaysRX7.jpg

http://www.z32.org/unsorted/jaysRX7interior.jpg

As I said....I am so undecided......I know you will probably be biased but, what would you do???? There are no "real" tuners in my area so I would be having to learn a lot of stuff and quickly....only 2 dynos in the whole KC area:mad:

Dan:
you could not be more right about "Japanese" names. I work at a company that designs and manufactures toys...in Hong Kong and China, they are twice as bad....I got some crazy names and stories:)

Wanka:
The 'owner' claims the blow off valve and recirc. have been rebuilt and the springs have been replaced so they don't give as much boost. He is only running 12 psi currently, also because he just got done with the break in on the engine.....he has too much money invested in the car and knows it will be a piggy bank...he claims not because reliability but because "addiction to part"...I am sure you all know how this can be. I don't plan on taking it to the track every weekend but maybe 3-4 times a year and I would definately would like to do a racetrack (roadrace) event at least 1 per year.

Angel

black99 12-13-01 01:58 PM

I've seen that car before... I didn't even think that it would be for sale because I think I saw him trying to get rid of it a while ago.. At any rate, I like the car but you have a '01 s2000 that you are trading him even up for??? That's a hard decision, what you have now, it being '01 will be under warranty and pretty reliable, not that rotarys aren't but you are talking about buying a HIGHLY modded car. The car is nice looking I will give him that, but worth the price of the '01 s2000 I am not sure. I'm sorry man I am confused what I would do myself, so I can't help you make that decision.

13BAce 12-14-01 12:17 AM

Re: T88 set up...a car I am buying...questions..help???
 

Originally posted by Z06-KILLR
What do you guys think about this set up??? I am looking at purchasing this car in the next few days...........It is a 93 with 29,000 miles on the body and 1,200 miles on the rebuilt and bridgeported engine.....I...know quite a bit about 300ZXtt and Supras but not a whole lot about rotaries...your help is appreciated. Thanks in advance:

- T88 turbo by Greddy
- Apex FMIC intercooler
- Sheep dog bov's (2) (love than name)
- Mazda speed full body (wide body) kit
- True Advan 18' wheels (18x8.5 and 18 x 9.5)
- Greddy Profec boost controller
- Mazda speed leather seats
- Bridgeported engine w/apex seals (Japan only??)
- full roll cage/fuel cell with battery on trunk
- revs at 10,000 rpm.......WTF, is this true??
- Haltech ECU programmable
- Secondary 1600 injectors ???
- two fuel pumps on set up
- 29,000 miles on car - 1,000 on engine/turbo
- top speed 175 (with shorter gear ratio- this I don't doubt)
- straight piping from the turbo out
- Brembo big brake kit (not installed)
- Tokiko adjustable with Eibach springs
- front and rear sway bars and strut bars (Mazda speed)
- Apex gauges for temp, boost, water temp (has Autometer now).

Again, thanks a lot!!!!!

the car doesn't have the fuel gauge hooked up to the cell so it is really hard to keep track.......this should not be too hard, right???? He also has a carbon drive shaft but I am debating on the installation....so my questions would be:

1. How reliable would this car be?
2. I am planning to put in about 4,000 miles/year with the ocassional trip to the 1/4 for tuning......how much boost can I safely run on the streets? What would be things you guys would ask about???

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your help!!

Angel

If he revs to 10,000 RPM's on a regular basis he better have better rotor bearings and gears. You can hook up an autometer fuel level gauge to the fuel cell, or you can try to get your stock gauge to work. The car should be able to run 20-30K miles, but it will require ALOT of attention. You won't be able to just start it up and go wherever you want without checking it out alot. You may want to get it checked out by a rotary mechanic.

The 1600 cc secondary injectors are good, but what primaries does he have? If they're 550's then they're not big enough for that port and turbo. If you don't understand the fuel injectors this is how they work: There are 2 primaries and 2 secondaries that come on at higher boost/RPM's. The dual fuel pump setup is a good idea. I'm assuming he's running SS lines throughout. Who did his work and tuning?

17-18 PSI would be a good limit for the street. That will give you PLENTY of power. If you want to go higher I would recommend race gas. The car should be great for the 1/4 mile, but you may have some trouble with it at the autocrossing track because big singles can be a little picky when it comes to turns.:) It may take a while to get used to. If this car isn't a primary car thern you should have ALOT more fun with it than your S2000. How much does he want for the car? You may be able to sell the S2000, buy his car, and keep a little money in your pocket for unexpected expenses.

I tried to give a decent reply, but I'm a little tired.http://www.plauder-smilies.com/sleep2.gif You could PM for some better advice if you want, or just e-mail me at jfrederi@juno.com

13BAce 12-14-01 12:21 AM


Originally posted by GotBoostd7
I think wankawankel has just had some problems with rotaries in the past and may be a little bitter :D
Yeah, he also needs to stop using Mazda rebuilds with his T-88.http://www.plauder-smilies.com/spin3.gif Modified rotaries run very well if everything is done right.

wankawankel 12-14-01 08:24 AM

You need to got off my jock and get a life. Carl...:D

Z06-KILLR 12-14-01 08:51 AM

thanks a lot for your info guys.......damn! This is harder than I thought....I think I might end up flipping a coin on this one..:(

13BAce 12-14-01 12:05 PM


Originally posted by Z06-KILLR
thanks a lot for your info guys.......damn! This is harder than I thought....I think I might end up flipping a coin on this one..:(
Use a 2-headed coin.:)

silvr94r2 12-15-01 03:21 AM

ZO6killer: I've seen this car in person and race at the track here in Vegas.Very nice and very fast....I've got it on video kicking a Supra's ass (SAAD SAAD) if you know who that is.If not, he is one of the west coasts high HP Supra guys. Anyway...it's a sweet car....I wouldn't let it pass you buy if you can afford it.

black99 12-15-01 12:57 PM


Originally posted by silvr94r2
ZO6killer: I've seen this car in person and race at the track here in Vegas.Very nice and very fast....I've got it on video kicking a Supra's ass (SAAD SAAD) if you know who that is.If not, he is one of the west coasts high HP Supra guys. Anyway...it's a sweet car....I wouldn't let it pass you buy if you can afford it.

Ok with that being said, if this car kicked SAAD SAAD's ass then that is definately one bad ass FD. Definately would have to make gobs of power to be able to do that. silvr94r2 anychance of getting that video in any form so that we could see it??:D

silvr94r2 12-15-01 03:46 PM

I really don't know how to get the video on to the computer.I've got almost the whole 2 days of racing on tape from the NIRA nationals that was here last year. It has Abel doing a 7.58@175....it has that orange Starlet getting all crazy.I have some great footage....Steph almost wrecking into the wall and pulling the shoot to straighten up.

Anyway....it's on a Sony Digital Camera.I have the I-link but I can't seem to figure out how to get it all together.I really haven't wanted to try very hard either....kinda want it to be easy.I don't have alot of time to waste doing it.Kinda busy with business stuff....if anyone knows of a simple program or something......please let me know.

Thanx...

faster7 12-18-01 08:05 AM

KC
 
In KC there are quite a few knowledgable enthusiasts: One, a good friend of mine, that knows the Haltech pretty well. I think there are 3 or 4 cars in the club up there now that run E6K's or are in progress.

If you can trade straight across, I'd do it SOOO quick! I wouldn't daily drive it of course.

RacerXXV 12-18-01 09:23 AM

Nice ride
 
Hey there Angel,

Russell forwarded this thread to the KCRX-7 club mail list.

I think I might be able to give you a bit of insight.

I bought a pretty heavily modified 3rd gen last year. It's got the body kit , FMIC, Sgl turbo, Power FC, Etc Etc.

I too was torn on the decision between reliability and fun.

I went with fun. I love this car. It is about as practical as a Ferrari, but it turns more heads than you would ever think possible. Especially here in the pickup truck infested midwest.

If you're expecting to buy this thing and be done with it, don't. You will be pouring money into it. That's what a toy car is all about. But, you can be assured that this is the best way to get a project car. This guy obviously has a ton of money already in the car. Now all you have to do is maintain it.

And yes, we have a coupla guys here in KC who know rotaries and Haltech's very very well.

So, I'd do it (hell, I already did it). S2000s are killer cars, but you'll have alot more fun in the RX. Just don't plan on using it as a daily driver.

Jeff Tromans
Pres. KCRX7 Club
93 R1 with Apex mods

Z06-KILLR 12-19-01 04:15 PM

thanks a bunch...a few more q's
 

Originally posted by RacerXXV
Hey there Angel,

Russell forwarded this thread to the KCRX-7 club mail list.

I think I might be able to give you a bit of insight.

I bought a pretty heavily modified 3rd gen last year. It's got the body kit , FMIC, Sgl turbo, Power FC, Etc Etc.

I too was torn on the decision between reliability and fun.

I went with fun. I love this car. It is about as practical as a Ferrari, but it turns more heads than you would ever think possible. Especially here in the pickup truck infested midwest.

If you're expecting to buy this thing and be done with it, don't. You will be pouring money into it. That's what a toy car is all about. But, you can be assured that this is the best way to get a project car. This guy obviously has a ton of money already in the car. Now all you have to do is maintain it.

And yes, we have a coupla guys here in KC who know rotaries and Haltech's very very well.

So, I'd do it (hell, I already did it). S2000s are killer cars, but you'll have alot more fun in the RX. Just don't plan on using it as a daily driver.

Jeff Tromans
Pres. KCRX7 Club
93 R1 with Apex mods

Do you think I can get your phone number? I would like to call you and talk in more detail about the diff. mods this guy has...thx a bunch. Please email me at angel@kidstuff.com

Z06-KILLR 12-19-01 04:30 PM

....so tempting....can I have his name and # so....
 

Originally posted by faster7
In KC there are quite a few knowledgable enthusiasts: One, a good friend of mine, that knows the Haltech pretty well. I think there are 3 or 4 cars in the club up there now that run E6K's or are in progress.

If you can trade straight across, I'd do it SOOO quick! I wouldn't daily drive it of course.

I can call him and discuss further...thanks a bunch guys!


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