Stock Port, Pump Gas, Borgwarner EFR 8474 Dyno
Some solid EFR 8474 Dyno Results from HPAcademy
Specs; Used stock port REW, CJM S1 fuel system, Walbro 460LPH fuel pump, ID1350X primaries, ID1750X secondaries, stock intake manifolds/TB, Adaptronic M6000, Vinny Fab Vmount, IGN1a coils, our cast EFR 8474 1.05 turbo system with turbine housing/manifold inconel shields, Pump gas at 14.5 psi https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9c358ccf64.jpg |
without watching the video, did they feather the throttle? boost curve seems laggy. Great results nonetheless!
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Originally Posted by neit_jnf
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without watching the video, did they feather the throttle? boost curve seems laggy. Great results nonetheless!
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HP Academy knows what they are doing. I was subscribed to their paid program for a while and I learned some good stuff. I was a moderator on their private forum for a while.
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I paid for the universal membership.
Work life has taken a few turns over the last few years but in a well paid steady job now, should have the opportunity to put all the HPA stuff into practice with the addition of a Plex combustion logger over the next year or so. Will only be starting with a 35r and basic pre-turbo WI but hoping to step up one of the turblown quickspool turbine housings on a big EFR down the track. Firearms have absorbed a fair bit of play money in the mean time. |
Originally Posted by Slides
(Post 12444108)
I paid for the universal membership.
Work life has taken a few turns over the last few years but in a well paid steady job now, should have the opportunity to put all the HPA stuff into practice with the addition of a Plex combustion logger over the next year or so. Will only be starting with a 35r and basic pre-turbo WI but hoping to step up one of the turblown quickspool turbine housings on a big EFR down the track. Firearms have absorbed a fair bit of play money in the mean time. |
Originally Posted by Slides
(Post 12444108)
I paid for the universal membership.
Work life has taken a few turns over the last few years but in a well paid steady job now, should have the opportunity to put all the HPA stuff into practice with the addition of a Plex combustion logger over the next year or so. Will only be starting with a 35r and basic pre-turbo WI but hoping to step up one of the turblown quickspool turbine housings on a big EFR down the track. Firearms have absorbed a fair bit of play money in the mean time. |
Have the Plex in the cupboard.
They did a TeamViewer session with me before purchase, the software is pretty good, the tfx stuff worked out to be a similar price for a much less powerful and flexible product. The Plex is pretty much a chassis and combustion logger in one. Would be cool if an ECU manufacturer set up can for auto tune. |
Originally Posted by neit_jnf
(Post 12444015)
without watching the video, did they feather the throttle? boost curve seems laggy. Great results nonetheless!
HPA free video |
Now that I've reviewed the logs, it made the 420rwhp at only 14 psi( 14.2 psi was a peak early on).
I can see why it made 420rwhp at such low boost on this style of dyno, emap was less than 1:1 ( seen below). That;'s probably 460rwhp on a dynojet FYI. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...1dad20f019.jpg |
is under 1:1 emap not typical for this turbo. do stock ports create less emap?
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the dyno in the opening post only indicates 11-12 psig then with it not getting up towards 14 psig until after 5000 rpm :dunno: so I can see why it was questioned as being “laggy” in a previous post.
otherwise it’s sitting at the lower end of the compressor’s highest efficiency island at peak and you could argue giving up response and torque down low to achieve that; which again, the dyno graph in the opening post seems to indicate, but certainly safe and reliable there for sure. so maybe that wasn’t the best of the dyno graphs those stated numbers are coming from, because something isn’t matching there. . |
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
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the dyno in the opening post only indicates 11-12 psig then with it not getting up towards 14 psig until after 5000 rpm :dunno: so I can see why it was questioned as being “laggy” in a previous post.
otherwise it’s sitting at the lower end of the compressor’s highest efficiency island at peak and you could argue giving up response and torque down low to achieve that; which again, the dyno graph in the opening post seems to indicate, but certainly safe and reliable there for sure. so maybe that wasn’t the best of the dyno graphs those stated numbers are coming from, because something isn’t matching there. . Our EWG kits are 600 rpms slower than IWG for those wondering( runner length, volume, and the .92 vs 1.05), also the 8474 is 250/300rpms slower than the 8374. The 8474 has a 68mm inducer vs the 62mm on the 8374. |
that makes sense, thanks for taking the time to explain it.
I watched the videos, but they were sort of all over the place discussing multiple things and do I likely just overlooked it there. . |
Originally Posted by Turblown
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HPA is also going to be doing a video on our new variable a/r housing!
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see link below; in short, if there’s something to trumpet about they won’t be shy to blow on it loud and clear 🎺
https://www.rx7club.com/rotary-car-p.../#post12469861 . |
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