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The_Fox 09-13-12 09:03 AM

Interesting Idea to turbo an na s4
 
K, so my buddy and I were talking. He has this idea of hacking up my RB header and making a pseudo-remote mount turbo setup. Any reason this would not work? I have plenty of td05h-16g turbos laying about and a few flanges that fit. And piping. And a factory intercooler from a Starion...

Besides needing the obvious water and oil lines for the turbo, i'll need bigger injectors, and what else? Lol

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dakota's rx7 09-13-12 09:52 AM

go to rotaryressurection.com they have a list or aaron cakes write up

The_Fox 09-13-12 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by dakota's rx7
go to rotaryressurection.com they have a list or aaron cakes write up

I've read Aaron's write-ups soooo many times. I love following his site!

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dakota's rx7 09-13-12 11:31 AM

good place to start

tuscanidream 09-13-12 01:03 PM

Intercooler
Ecu
Bov

The list will grow larger.

dakota's rx7 09-13-12 01:15 PM

downpipe
boost gauge
tii rear end
tii half shafts
tii tranny
tii flywheel
tii clutch/pressure plate
tii drive shaft

The_Fox 09-13-12 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by dakota's rx7
downpipe
boost gauge
tii rear end
tii half shafts
tii tranny
tii flywheel
tii clutch/pressure plate
tii drive shaft

Have a nice autometer boost gauge.

My entire drivetrain is tii lol

So i need downpipe. Easy.

I have the s5 n/a rotors. Think i'll be ok?

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The_Fox 09-13-12 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by tuscanidream
Intercooler
Ecu
Bov

The list will grow larger.

1. Look at original post closer. ;)
2. MegaSquirt since I'm highly familiar with it
3. I have an HKS SSQV3 on one of my pipes.

Lol

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dakota's rx7 09-13-12 06:31 PM

i have a nice set of tii rotors? hell i have just bout everything for a tii even hood

RotaryEvolution 09-13-12 06:43 PM

that dinky DSM turbo is a waste of space.

the rotary engine will choke trying to push air through that straw.

The_Fox 09-13-12 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by dakota's rx7
i have a nice set of tii rotors? hell i have just bout everything for a tii even hood

That requires me spending moar $$$$. Lolol. Pm me with whatcha got and how much.

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rxspeed7 09-13-12 08:02 PM

best way to do a cheap turbo swap is to either buy a full oem turbo2 drivetrain swap or buy a turbo 2.

The_Fox 09-13-12 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by rxspeed7
best way to do a cheap turbo swap is to either buy a full oem turbo2 drivetrain swap or buy a turbo 2.

The only thing i don't have is a full longblock and ecu.

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The_Fox 09-13-12 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
that dinky DSM turbo is a waste of space.

the rotary engine will choke trying to push air through that straw.

Will the 20G or HX40 i have be more acceptable then? I'm not looking to make insane figures.

Edit: for a straw, I made 300whp and 342ft lbs with the 16g. It was maxed the hell out, but it certainly did it.

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The_Fox 09-13-12 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by The_Fox

Will the 20G or HX40 i have be more acceptable then? I'm not looking to make insane figures.

Edit: for a straw, I made 300whp and 342ft lbs with the 16g on my Starion. It was maxed the hell out, but it certainly did it.

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misterstyx69 09-13-12 11:45 PM

..and that was on a Starion.
totally different ball game on an Rx7 engine.

beefhole 09-13-12 11:54 PM

If you can hack and weld metal/manifolds, then you can build something to use a stock turbo. They go for cheap all the time in the classified section. At least it won't choke the motor and you can always upgrade it later.

FWIW: I bought my S4 turbo for $50!

joeylyrech 09-14-12 06:41 AM

Not happening.....is a waste of time and money.Do it right and done!

The_Fox 09-14-12 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by misterstyx69
..and that was on a Starion.
totally different ball game on an Rx7 engine.

Fair enough.


Originally Posted by beefhole
If you can hack and weld metal/manifolds, then you can build something to use a stock turbo. They go for cheap all the time in the classified section. At least it won't choke the motor and you can always upgrade it later.

FWIW: I bought my S4 turbo for $50!

The idea is to use what I have. But if I can pick up a stock snail that cheap, then it's worth looking into. But this hx40 is tempting me.


Originally Posted by joeylyrech
Not happening.....is a waste of time and money.Do it right and done!

Que pasa?

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joeylyrech 09-14-12 09:32 AM

nada
 

Originally Posted by The_Fox (Post 11221646)
Fair enough.


The idea is to use what I have. But if I can pick up a stock snail that cheap, then it's worth looking into. But this hx40 is tempting me.


Que pasa?

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No pasa nada!
I dont want 2 sound like a dick but with the type of questions that you are posting i can tell that you have no idea of how 2 setup a turbo rotary.If you have a NA and you want 2 get away the cheap way just turbo it with all the turbo 2 parts and be done!or you can do it the other way around.........doing a legit full turbo swap.............after you are done with that and gain some experience start playing with different turbos,ems,injectors ect ect.My advice is read as much as possible on the subject and learn,enjoy the car,drive it and then when you are ready for the next step go for it.I will hate 2 see another dead rx7 part out thread:(

Knockers 09-14-12 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by joeylyrech (Post 11221712)
No pasa nada!
I dont want 2 sound like a dick but with the type of questions that you are posting i can tell that you have no idea of how 2 setup a turbo rotary.If you have a NA and you want 2 get away the cheap way just turbo it with all the turbo 2 parts and be done!or you can do it the other way around.........doing a legit full turbo swap.............after you are done with that and gain some experience start playing with different turbos,ems,injectors ect ect.My advice is read as much as possible on the subject and learn,enjoy the car,drive it and then when you are ready for the next step go for it.I will hate 2 see another dead rx7 part out thread:(

I 2nd this motion... Find turbo II parts(turbo, manifold, engine)...go to the 2nd gen fourm... read... get smart... you will get the answers you seek when you ask the right questions.

Using a starion 16g is not a good idea. The exhaust turbine is not rotary friendly, listen to the answers you are getting, good advise. Please don't destroy a pertectly good RB header.

The_Fox 09-14-12 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by joeylyrech

No pasa nada!
I dont want 2 sound like a dick but with the type of questions that you are posting i can tell that you have no idea of how 2 setup a turbo rotary.If you have a NA and you want 2 get away the cheap way just turbo it with all the turbo 2 parts and be done!or you can do it the other way around.........doing a legit full turbo swap.............after you are done with that and gain some experience start playing with different turbos,ems,injectors ect ect.My advice is read as much as possible on the subject and learn,enjoy the car,drive it and then when you are ready for the next step go for it.I will hate 2 see another dead rx7 part out thread:(

You are correct. I am new to rotaries period. So bear with me. I know plenty about building piston cars, this rotary is a learning curve. But learn it I will. I absolutely hate that when I learned everything in my 4 years of schooling that we only had a paragraph about these motors. And they're so awesome! I'm starting to enjoy it so much. Thanks guys for helping me learn!

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joeylyrech 09-14-12 02:37 PM

:)
 

Originally Posted by The_Fox (Post 11222029)
You are correct. I am new to rotaries period. So bear with me. I know plenty about building piston cars, this rotary is a learning curve. But learn it I will. I absolutely hate that when I learned everything in my 4 years of schooling that we only had a paragraph about these motors. And they're so awesome! I'm starting to enjoy it so much. Thanks guys for helping me learn!

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There is a lot of drama going around this forums and some users are not really that friendly but if you stick around and learn how 2 deal with them you will learn a lot i mean tons of good info on this forums!

RotaryEvolution 09-14-12 02:40 PM

i suppose we're not so friendly because we answer the same questions time and time again. even the not so apparent answers usually get a bit of sarcasm tied to them due to that.

unfortunately there's only a handful of people who are very helpful in each area, those people sometimes get burnt out. i have had to delete more PMs on this forum than i have posts. fortunately being a vendor i now can hold 10,000 at a time(my box is currently half full), before it sucked only being able to hold 1,000 as i would have to clear out my box once a month.

joeylyrech 09-14-12 02:50 PM

C,mon Karack you are one the better ones around.lol


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