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Neutron 09-27-13 05:16 PM

Finally joined the 600WHP club...
 
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Hi Everyone,

I have finally corrected most of the issue I was having with my new set up and I am extremely happy with the results. Getting the AEM series 1 to work correctly was a bear but once it was all sorted out was so much more capable then my old Power FC. The attached dyno chart is for my high and low boost settings which are around 26psi and 14psi respectively.

I am very impressed with the boost response and mid-range torque of the S366. Pretty unbelievable for a decently sized journal bearing turbo.

My old set up can be viewed here: GT4088 on E85.

Main changes I made are as follows:

Turbo System:
S366
New Turblown Twin Gate manifold Design
3.5 inch DP and MP

Fuel
2 ID 1000 primaries
4 ID 2000 Secondaries

Ignition
4 AEM Smart Coils in Direct Fire
4 NGK 7420 11 heat range

Engine Management
AEM Series 1
  • Dual Knock Control
  • Direct Fire Ignition
  • Boost Control
  • O2 Feed Back and Idle Control

indio84 09-27-13 06:10 PM

good numbers, what turbine you running

Neutron 09-27-13 06:27 PM

1.10 A/R housing.

fendamonky 09-27-13 06:52 PM

Grats man! I hope you're able to maintain and remain in the club for a while (aka, hope the motor holds solid!! :fingersx::bigthumb: )

arghx 09-27-13 06:54 PM

If you don't mind, would you share your AEM EMS map/calibration file? I'm kinda curious how you had the knock control, boost control, and a few other things set up.

Turblown 09-27-13 06:58 PM

Congrats! Looks like a fun powerband....

GoodfellaFD3S 09-27-13 07:14 PM

This was on e85? what are the specs on the engine?

Nice numbers indeed :icon_tup:

RotaryEvolution 09-27-13 07:28 PM

and nice boost control

XLR8 09-27-13 08:21 PM

Impressive! Big congrats!

BLACK MAMBA 09-27-13 08:57 PM

Congrats,Nice numbers.

I was planning on switching my .91 back housing on my old S366 setup to the 1.10, but then the engine bay fire happen.

Neutron 09-27-13 11:36 PM

Thanks everyone. The engine is a AZRR full large street port build. I have been over 500WHP for about 2 years now and the engine has never missed a beat. This was on E85. I have a Ethanol content analyzer and the E85 is currently at 84%.


Originally Posted by arghx (Post 11584362)
If you don't mind, would you share your AEM EMS map/calibration file? I'm kinda curious how you had the knock control, boost control, and a few other things set up.

No problem. The main issue is the AEM documentation incorrectly marked the knock 2 input pin. It is labeled 1F but it is really 1D, at least in a Series 1 ECU that was updated by AEM to the latest specs. I am still trying to determine what voltage to consider knock. So far all activity has been well under a volt. Do you by chance know what the voltage scale for the Power FC knock values are?

Can you pm me your email address? It is not letting me attach the AEM file.

AXA 10-11-13 07:18 PM

Nice number Sir...

Neutron can you please post pics of your fuel setup specially the fuel rails..
I have almost the same setup but with only 4 ID 2000cc injectors.. I will be adding two 1000cc before going to the dyno like you...

I thinking about changing my .91 to a 1.10 also in my BW 366 but I like the spool on the 0.91 for the street..

Again congrats on the 600whp club..? .

Neutron 10-14-13 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by AXA (Post 11595914)
Nice number Sir...

Neutron can you please post pics of your fuel setup specially the fuel rails..
I have almost the same setup but with only 4 ID 2000cc injectors.. I will be adding two 1000cc before going to the dyno like you...

I thinking about changing my .91 to a 1.10 also in my BW 366 but I like the spool on the 0.91 for the street..

Again congrats on the 600whp club..? .

I wish I would of taken a picture before putting the UIM back on but I am using the CJ fuel rail kit with 4 port secondary rail which is compatible with the Xcessive LIM.

Starting back at the fuel tank I am running a single 044 in-tank which is a lift pump for 2x044 which are housed in a Surge Tank. -6 Feed to surge tank and -6 return from surge tank. From the surge tank both 044 feed a single -8 line.

If you need more specifics let me know.

AXA 10-14-13 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Neutron (Post 11597708)
I wish I would of taken a picture before putting the UIM back on but I am using the CJ fuel rail kit with 4 port secondary rail which is compatible with the Xcessive LIM.

Starting back at the fuel tank I am running a single 044 in-tank which is a lift pump for 2x044 which are housed in a Surge Tank. -6 Feed to surge tank and -6 return from surge tank. From the surge tank both 044 feed a single -8 line.

If you need more specifics let me know.

Thank you sir for the reply...

enjoy the new power...

jetlude 07-02-14 02:47 PM

Bringing this back to ask another question. Nutron made this power on a 1.10 turbine housing. Do you guys think that 550rwhp is doable on the the s366 .91 back housing with a street ported block, below 30psi?

Most of the better deals on the s366 come with the .91a/r housing.

Neutron 07-03-14 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jetlude (Post 11761859)
Bringing this back to ask another question. Nutron made this power on a 1.10 turbine housing. Do you guys think that 550rwhp is doable on the the s366 .91 back housing with a street ported block, below 30psi?

Most of the better deals on the s366 come with the .91a/r housing.

As long as you have all of the necessary supporting mods you should have no problems making 550 on E85. I made 580whp on the .91 but had crazy compressor surge. With my set up it spooled to fast.

Since this popped back up I did go back to the dyno a few months later when it was cooler. Timing was a little more aggressive which helped lower EGT’s. Mid-range torque and power definitely improved.

Howard Coleman 07-03-14 07:07 AM

"which helped lower EGT’s"

what were your egts?

Neutron 07-03-14 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by howard coleman (Post 11762150)
"which helped lower EGT’s"

what were your egts?

Previously they were in the 1800 degree range at 26psi. Now they are high 1600 to low 1700's at max power levels. Timing is still really conservative.

jetlude 07-03-14 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Neutron (Post 11762087)
you should have no problems making 550 on E85. .

I am running pump fuel with water injection, will this make a difference at tho the turbos capabilities with the .91 housing?

So you changed to the 1.10 to get rid of the compressor surge.

Neutron 07-03-14 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by jetlude (Post 11762432)
I am running pump fuel with water injection, will this make a difference at tho the turbos capabilities with the .91 housing?

So you changed to the 1.10 to get rid of the compressor surge.

I honestly do not know. I am sure E85 does allow for a little more power but I could not tell you how much more. I do know that when my tuner compared my curve and HP/TQ numbers to all of the other FD's that he tuned on the same dyno under the same conditions there was no comparison.

I did change to the 1.10 purely to get rig of compressor surge. It was worse on the street then the dyno as the car seems to spool faster off the dyno. It was pretty much un-drivable on the street at low RPM. I am guessing E85 has a little to do with the response improvement but I think Elliot's awesome new manifold has something to do with it as well.

Turblown 07-04-14 12:04 PM

Are you ready for a 9180 yet ?

Neutron 07-04-14 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 11762838)
Are you ready for a 9180 yet ?

Hopefully by next summer. I'm trying to strengthen the drivetrain before making anymore power and torque. The rear end is done and ready. I'm saving for a Liberty Gears reworked trans and dual or triple disc clutch before making the switch.

jetlude 07-04-14 07:37 PM

You guys know here can I pickup a new or used 1.0 turbine for the s366?

bowlcutsaresweet 07-06-14 12:18 PM

This makes me excited to see what my BEP s366 does. Congrats!

bufferovrflo 07-06-14 03:07 PM

Jetlude - Exhaust Housings

Cheapest I've found BW products. Although these are using the marmon flange still.


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