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Custard 01-28-08 09:02 AM

To dowel or not to dowel
 
When does it become necessary to put in extra dowels?

i am going single with a GT35R and a streetport with all the supporting mods. hoping for 400-450rwhp.

the car will be used for street and track use mainly with the occasional drag or two.

Gorilla RE 01-28-08 09:52 AM

No need to dowel...
-J

Smitter 01-28-08 10:22 AM

^^i disagree
isnt dowel pinning necessary if making more then 250bhp per rotor.
it definetly isnt gonna hurt to pin your motor with the numbers you are after
i am putting down similar numbers and opted to getter pinned

Gorilla RE 01-28-08 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by smitter113fd (Post 7794425)
^^i disagree

Well you do have the right to do so..... But it doesn't change my opinion.
-J

ZAN_TUNING 01-28-08 11:03 AM

unless your going for 700+ it's un neccessary IMO. and even then you can do without, but it's a little extra security haha.

killahrx7 01-28-08 11:27 AM

if the car is not tuned properly it will still break. i've seen pinned engines break before. if a plate doesn't crack you will flatten springs or break seals depending on which apex seals you use. just my 2 cents

Gorilla RE 01-28-08 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Intense_Motorsports (Post 7794608)
unless your going for 700+ it's un neccessary IMO. and even then you can do without, but it's a little extra security haha.

This is more to my point... You really don't need to have them done for YOUR goals. And the fact that I've seen a ton of places that "dowel pin" motors but end up screwing them up them up during the process, is just another reason to leave well enough alone.....
-J

ZAN_TUNING 01-28-08 12:41 PM

exactly. i do mine on a cnc machine and even then only add two extra dowel points.. so a total of 4 extra dowells in the block. BUT this alone does nothing without clearancing and balancing; and then ofcourse PROPER FUEL AND TUNING! haha

Gorilla RE 01-28-08 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Intense_Motorsports (Post 7795002)
exactly. i do mine on a cnc machine and even then only add two extra dowel points.. so a total of 4 extra dowells in the block. BUT this alone does nothing without clearancing and balancing; and then ofcourse PROPER FUEL AND TUNING! haha

AMEN :icon_tup:

dhahlen 01-29-08 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by smitter113fd (Post 7794425)
^^i disagree
isnt dowel pinning necessary if making more then 250bhp per rotor.
it definetly isnt gonna hurt to pin your motor with the numbers you are after
i am putting down similar numbers and opted to getter pinned

I've seen many 13b's do well over 600hp without it and never have a single problem.

ZAN_TUNING 01-29-08 02:53 PM

exactly... the thing i recommend over anything else is clearancing the rotors and balancing the rotating assembly.

DelSlow 01-29-08 08:49 PM

^ How exactly do you go about clearancing a rotor?

Gorilla RE 01-29-08 10:50 PM

^^^With a feeler gauge :lol2:

DelSlow 01-30-08 05:20 AM

Ah! of course, I thought you were talking about cutting material off of the rotors or something...

GoodfellaFD3S 01-30-08 06:29 AM

Just to beat the dead horse, absolutely no reason to dowel pin the OPs motor with that setup.

ZAN_TUNING 01-30-08 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by DelSlow (Post 7803752)
Ah! of course, I thought you were talking about cutting material off of the rotors or something...

:wiggle: only a little bit haha

Gorilla RE 01-30-08 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Intense_Motorsports (Post 7804159)
:wiggle: only a little bit haha

ooooowh so there IS more than one way to lighten rotors:rofl:
-J

AZ'sFastFD3S 02-01-08 09:42 PM

No dowel pin here!


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