Nice

For once a shop that understands the science behind engine air flow dynamics. Far too many shops go above and beyond to just mainly pretty up the engine bay with lots of bling. You guys actually understand fabrication and you do it the right way. The ducting and above header are amazing. Much props! Even the location of the waste gate is perfect for controlling boost.

DOH ! :wallbash:

Maybe you guys can start selling this whole set up as a kit.

So when did thise setup see full boost at 19 psi??

Been at least a few months already in the red car.

WOW, it takes a few months to see full boost :O lol now thats a slow spooling slug!!

5300 rpm full boost 19psi
from 0psi to 19psi takes 0.9 sec avg.

Well to compare with other setups you would have to be factoring in back pressure..if we wanted to raise the back press we could, and did see a 1000 rpm change in spool..but what we were working on, was achieving a one to one ratio. boost vs. back pressure. and that is what we have now, 19 psi of boost and 19-20 psi of back press. the entire system works much better, runs cooler, makes more HP, with less strain on the engine and gets better fuel economy. for us and how jack drives it works just fine. we routinely out run 650 hp vipers and maintain cooler egt's, oil temps and cooling temps then even them, and they are NA....
Twins Turbo....

Any new updates on this set up?

It's a slow build being that we only work on it once a week or so. This has been an on going project for some time now. I think I have a few newer pics I can post later today if I can find them.

Here is the wastegate installed
Tial 60mm

Great work! Are you not concerned about the hot wastegate next to the charge pipe? It just looks like there is so little space available with that (though ideal....) wastegate placement.

It's actually not that close. Just deceiving by the pics.

This set up is awesome. I like the way the exhaust manifold looks. I'd go for this if I didn't already have a project going on. I'm currently getting a custom twini turbo set up built using T3/TO4E Garretts and an HKS GT 50 mm wastegate. Keep us posted on this. You going to be at Sevenstock? I'm pushing to get my car done for it, hope to see you there.

Trying to get to seven stock. But the exterior mods prob won't be done by then.

How come there are different intake manifold setups here? One picture has the ground zero mated up, and the other has the stock lower intake manifold mated up with your custom upper. Why in the world would you use the stock lower if you had the xcessive lower? If it ran into the turbo manifold that is the only problem I see. Though if you're going for particular runner flow you would be using the xcessive lower intake manifold. Someone let me know whats going on here :)

Wonder if I'll be able to do an extra long runner manifold like that and mount the turbo in the traditional way and still fit a 5 " down pipe too !

Not like that you wont. I have a 5" exhaust on my car and space is limited. Not to mention if your still looking at a 45R even.

-S-

wow...... ::pants got tight::

you can use any parts you want when mocking up for fabrication.

^The ground zero manifold puts the upper intake more toward the front of the car...

That was there for mock up purposes only. We are using the xcessive lower.

Very nice setup. You get any numbers yet?

I can't believe you never seen this thread ernie, till i sent it to you. I like this as well and also would like to see some updates to this thread.

No numbers yet. Still in the process of building. It's gonna be a while but I hope to have it done before this winter. We started plumbing while we wait for the real turbo to get here so we can start working on the down pipe, hot side of the intercooler, and exhaust. Besides that there isn't much left to do. Just wire it up and small nick knacks.

No new updates?

No sorry. Just doing all the small stuff now and you know how that is. But I can say we are almost done with the plumbing and it is insane looking. Almost everything is braided lines. Even the radiator and boost lines are braided to an fittings.

The small stuff is the details that most people leave out of these writeups, but really makes the project. Can you post some more pictures? :)

shit is sick i want da intake manifold

Just wondering if you've totaled up the cost yet. My build up is running me $20,000 with the cost of new housings, ceramic seals, custom twin turbos, etc. Maybe I should have gone 20B :)

Everything looks Spectacular! Such a nice Road Race setup.

Want to sponsor an FC for NASA in Ohio? ;-)

Where did you pull the main source for the Vacuum Manifold from?

Main source of vacuum is coming from the intake plenum to a distribution block. I should have some pics this week or next. sorry its taking so long for pics but I don't get to work on the car too often. I don't even want to think of the cost! I thin i spent over 2k in lines and fittings alone.

2K on lines and fittings alone? Damn, I'm wondering what it's going to cost me. Now I have to do a custom gas tank so I can have a 2nd exhaust in my set up.

hi jon! tell the twins ur ride is comming out nice, im impressed.. i cant wait to go for a ride ;) like old times
you got more bling in that setup than mr-T has jewlery

TwinsTurbo,
congratulations to you and Jack for the record breaking lap.

I assume a similar manifold was running on that car?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK_UxfmX8L4

Yes the manifold pictured on page 2 post #36 is the actual header on jacks car..some people were worrying about the "spool" and not understanding what we were trying to do with this set up..i guess our Unlimited RWD national record speaks for its self.LOL
Eric

cant wait to see figures

whoa

What size is that throttle body?

thanks

/Rick

Some update picks for you guys.

the real turbo is on. It is a BorgWarner S383. One of 3 in the country.Pretty special piece, but nothing is to good for our boy john.
http://i12.tinypic.com/6qcrach.jpg

the wastegate dump is almost finished. after we fit the D/P we will finish fabricating the W/G dump
http://i12.tinypic.com/8eqg9yw.jpg

Pretty Sexy.....
http://i19.tinypic.com/6lnibtl.jpg

the pluming is almost finished also. we will disassemble all of the blue fittings and adapters and have them anodized black to match.
http://i16.tinypic.com/6su0h8n.jpg

the press sensors for the MoTec ready for the wiring harness.
http://i1.tinypic.com/8244lsh.jpg

And we also are using an AIM sports dashboard. John is not a big fan of the jet cockpit look, and neither are we. the AIM shares all the MoTec data and has built in progressive shift lights and warning lights. Much cleaner.

http://i2.tinypic.com/8fmipe1.jpg

That is what we have for now. we should have the D/P fabbed up shortly. We are really getting close., it's almost hard to believe, LOL...
Eric

Beautiful stuff man, just awesome.

I watched the buttonwillow video of the record breaking lap....and have to say you build some serious cars. Keep it up!

Thanks for posting the pics Grim!
The throttle body is 95mm.

I noticed the EWP, I was wondering what brand you are using and how any experience you have with it has treated you.

Sorry if I'm thread derailing. . .feel free to PM me if you don't want to post it here.

looks amazing!

What size swivle fitting is it on your rail, an8 or an10? Redoing my fuelsystem this winter just wondering if I could fitt an an10 like that behind my generator?

Thanks!

WHAT THE HELL JON!!!!!..did'nt know you were building a monster, to bad I missed you when I went down there couple weeks ago...I will be there in march and your car better be done...James gave me a ride in his car but I can imagine how yours will turn out....INFINIT FOR LIFE...

I want your water pump set up

BTW..I need some new Infinit stickers....

Baldy.

the fuel line has a -10 an 180 fitting on it.
the EWP is from meziere. It's my first time using it but I am sure it will do the job.

I love dicks all up in my mouth

haha who's computer did you leave your name signed in on..


I don't know of anyone who makes decent thickness slip joints, can't see that lasting, especially since it looks like 304 .. as in 5+ years lasting..

i really like your wastegate design, i love the entire design actaully. awesome welds awesome everything.