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Uncle Hungry 07-14-19 07:54 PM

Building recirculating twin wastegates is miserable.
 
I decided to recirculate my twin Tial 44's. However, I didn't want to lose the amount of power I'd expect to with my 3" downpipe. As luck would have it my exhaust housing cracked leading me to have to replace it with a newer housing that relocated the downpipe. Since I had to build a new downpipe anyway and wanted to recirc, I went with 4", problem solved.

Let me tell you something. I've done plenty of automotive related things that sucked. More than I care to remember. However, building twin recirculating wastegate tubes on an rx7, on your back, absolutely takes the cake. Rant over.

Slides 07-15-19 04:23 AM

Good effort.

RGHTBrainDesign 07-15-19 11:43 AM

Let's see some pictures! I have mine right in front of me with sch10 2" pipe and it is a hell of a job...

Neutron 07-15-19 01:22 PM

I feel your pain but it is so much quieter!

Full 4 inch from turbo back with recirculated twin gates through 2 burns stainless mufflers and Vibrant exit muffler. Quieter then old full 3 inch with dumped twin gates and 1 vibrant ultra quiet resonator in every situation by a mile.

billyboy 07-16-19 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by RGHTBrainDesign (Post 12359008)
Let's see some pictures! I have mine right in front of me with sch10 2" pipe and it is a hell of a job...

Seems an odd choice to use pipe on the plumb back.

Saw this twin wastegate set-up installed in a skyline a month or two back, count your lucky stars you don't have to fab or install this in the car, the rotary is easy in comparison!
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Uncle Hungry 07-16-19 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by billyboy (Post 12359131)
Seems an odd choice to use pipe on the plumb back.

Saw this twin wastegate set-up installed in a skyline a month or two back, count your lucky stars you don't have to fab or install this in the car, the rotary is easy in comparison! https://www.facebook.com/Garage48cus...type=3&theater

I wouldn't mind building that out of the car like that. One too many pie cuts for me. That thing is a work of art though, for sure.

KNONFS 07-18-19 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Hungry (Post 12358904)
I decided to recirculate my twin Tial 44's. However, I didn't want to lose the amount of power I'd expect to with my 3" downpipe. As luck would have it my exhaust housing cracked leading me to have to replace it with a newer housing that relocated the downpipe. Since I had to build a new downpipe anyway and wanted to recirc, I went with 4", problem solved.

Let me tell you something. I've done plenty of automotive related things that sucked. More than I care to remember. However, building twin recirculating wastegate tubes on an rx7, on your back, absolutely takes the cake. Rant over.

Totally agree, I sort of gave up on my project! I am not a fabricator nor a welder, just play one, and damn that project is not fun.

billyboy 07-19-19 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Hungry (Post 12359293)
I wouldn't mind building that out of the car like that. One too many pie cuts for me. That thing is a work of art though, for sure.

It's a bit wanky, more done for the sake of appearance. What is scary or impressive is the millimeter clearances from components and bodywork when installed, rotary isn't fun but a few stainless donuts can give several options compared to this.

Uncle Hungry 07-19-19 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by billyboy (Post 12359796)
It's a bit wanky, more done for the sake of appearance. What is scary or impressive is the millimeter clearances from components and bodywork when installed, rotary isn't fun but a few stainless donuts can give several options compared to this.

Some of it, sure. But sometimes the only way to get the tight radius you need is with pie cuts unfortunately.

RXtacy 11-15-19 09:37 AM

Twin 44's is tough. Twin 38's with a short runner manifold on the FD was a challenge also.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...68c861ff1.jpeg

fendamonky 11-15-19 09:59 AM

That hard angle on the rear WG looks like it's going to hurt... Could you have adjusted the entry point into the DP downward and back slightly, along with clocking the WG exit downward slightly to achieve a smoother angle?

RXtacy 11-15-19 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fendamonky (Post 12381277)
That hard angle on the rear WG looks like it's going to hurt... Could you have adjusted the entry point into the DP downward and back slightly, along with clocking the WG exit downward slightly to achieve a smoother angle?

It's all a game of compromises. The angle might look worse in that pic than it actually is. The gates and recirc tubes are right on top of the motor mount so no they couldn't be adjusted down.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...1592ca0fb.jpeg

fendamonky 11-15-19 11:26 AM

Ah, yeah that sucks!..


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