Bosch 044 fuel sock?
 

I've searched but no one posts the part#. I've read that its a ford part any one know what it is

thanks

Scott

the only pre-filter for the 044 that i know of that is the ATL ks191.

prefilter
 

I circled the filter in this picture, that is what im looking for

!!!!!!
 

woops here it is

thats hIGGI's setup... he said that he modified the stock turboII sock to fit but didn't work to well.

is that the inline fp modified to run intank?

sure looks like it

grrrrr
 

damnit. thats what i didn't wan to hear, so any other ideas on how to install it in-tank. I just don't want to convert everything to a-n fittings so i can run it inline.

any help would be great

Scott

whats wrong with that other filter? Does it hit the bottom of the tank or something?

ATL filter
 

im not sure how it fits, i was trying to avoid ordering a part from over seas

All I know is that it cost $80!

There are sock filters with -6AN and -8AN male hose ends commonly available.

One could get a metric to -AN fitting for the bottom of the '044 pump and then a -AN 90 deg elbow and the -AN sock filter.

This will get pretty tall by the time it is assembled, don't know if there is room in the tank.

One could also get a metric to NPT or -AN fitting for the bottom of the pump to a drilled/tapped block with ports in the top for the pump fitting and 2 ports on one side for side by side -AN filters.

That would be shorter and provide lots of filter area (low restriction), but you would probably have to make the block yourself.

I've been searching for a good solution also.

so if your going to spend that much money on 90's and metric to -AN fittings and filters why don't you just spend the 80 on the filter that fits?

or why don't you just sell the inline bosch filter and buy the intank one. I"m sure they have filters readily available for that...just a thought.

You can make the stock sock work.

yes, i gave up running it in tank and i run it outside of the surge tank now...

Could you elaborate on your issues while running it "in tank"?

The KS191 is not a sock filter, it is a taller cannister shaped filter with the filter media around the circumference.

It will suck air up more easily as fuel is sloshed away from any part of the filter area.

The universal sock filters would be cheaper and offer more surface area (less pressure drop).

The intank Bosch pump does not perform as well as the external '044.



One could also get a good sock filter like the ks190 and figure out the correct size metric to NPT adapter to thread it on though the filters plastic bushing.

thanks for the info I appreciate that info greatly! Here is another question. What AN fittings are you guys using at the fuel pump housing cover?

How about a breakdown of the fittings you used in order to accomplish that?

Hmm, sock filter may not have more surface area than the cannister type filter- I wasn't thinking about the pleats...But the sucking in air part really would still suck.

I think most people use a "bulkhead fitting" to go through the fuel pump cover plate when not using the stock fuel lines.

You would have to cut off both sides of the stock tube and drill the cover there larger for the bulkhead fitting.

Then use some means to seal between the fitting inside the tank and the cover- a crush washer or o-ring bonded washer between the fitting and the cover would do it with the nut on the outside of the tank.

Definitely put something on the threads to keep them from backing off- something permanent like epoxy.

The larger gauge wire to supply the fuel pump is also typically fed through a bulkhead fitting as well with the remaining space inside the fitting completely filled with epoxy to seal it.

I think the problem most people have with the Bosch '044 in tank is that by the time you need the pump (500HP +) you have big sticky tires to put the power down and they have enough traction to generate the Gs to slosh the fuel away from the pick up area.

Solving this while retaining the stock gas tank is typically done by having a stock-ish in-tank pump to a surge tank to the Bosch '044 like on a circuit car.

I had problems with fuel starvation with in-tank install, so i decided to go for surge tank and mount bosch pump externally :

http://rx7cz.net/photos/workshop140/IMG_5928.JPG

there is only two Bosch fp200 pump versions 044 - 5 bar and 413 - 8 bar both are in-tank/in-line.

so what is the differance bewteen the two?

pressure rating, 5 bar and 8 bar of operating pressure

I'm surprised you have that installed close to the driver and your not using braided lines or comparable? It seems "rubber" hoses with those style clamps would be disastrous in the event of a serious collision!?!?

Higgi,depending on how you have your fuel pump wired and considering that it's just behind the driver you might want to at least wire in an "inertia" switch.That way any major impact the inertia switch stops the fuel pump.In north america you can find them on a number of ford products.

AN-08 bulkhead 90-degree fittings, female to female AN-08, male AN-08 to male metric threaded fitting to pump. Don't have the details on the thread pitch. Buy the pump and figure it out or search. Ditto on the bottom fitting. Into the sock you can thread in another AN male reducer to AN-08 fitting.

Tony

serious collission would be disastrous anyways, dont you think? :D

(i have been into few of them already)

Yeah, if you are gonna crash you may as well burn also. Do it right and go out in style.
The hell with survival, reduce that chance!

Save the family the expense of burial with the included cremation option now available ;)

accidents marked by smoke and fire are easier to notice and attract more attention

Here's a place that sales a pre-filter for the Bosch -044 fuel pump for those that run it intank.

http://www.jayracing.com/index.php?m...products_id=62

JD

Omg
 

OMG thanks boostn7 I've looked every where for that fuel sock you saved me from selling my fuel pump !!!!!

thanks

Scott