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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Who has Racing beat springs with stock shocks

How many miles on your shocks and was your car tracked? What year and model car? How is the ride? Do you suggest them? If not whats bad about them and what other springs do you think are the best performance springs with a nice ride quality and lowering on stock shocks?

I have the racing beat springs and Ive heard a couple bad things so Im not sure if I should install them. My car needs to be lowered bad. Im very happy with the ride and handling already this would be purely for lowering and any additional handling would is a plus.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Here's a similar thread that was started a few days ago:

https://www.rx7club.com//showthread....hreadid=283430

It might have some info in there which might help out.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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thanks your comments there sound good

does anyone actually have these springs in their car? I was told by a couple people the racing beat made the car too harsh riding.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by SurgeMonster
thanks your comments there sound good

does anyone actually have these springs in their car? I was told by a couple people the racing beat made the car too harsh riding.
From what I've seen the Racing Beat Springs have the lowest spring rate of most of the popular lowering springs, but they are linear. Linear springs will give you a rougher ride on the streets, but better performance on the track.

If you have your car on the street a lot more than the track, I would recommend progressive rate springs.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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I've had both RB and H&R springs on my FD. RBs are better for autocross. H&Rs are better for open track and road driving. Both lowered the car similar amount (H&Rs are slighly lower than RB). Ride comfort definitely goes to H&R Sport Springs. RBs were harsh. Shocks were/are stock Showa R1 shocks.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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I have the racing beat spings with bilstein shocks and the ride is STIFF. Every little pebble I can feel and it gets quite tiresome. It might be a bit better with the stock shocks but I would get something else to be on the safe side.
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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for info relating to Racing Beat springs please see:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=283430

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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I wonder why im getting the big difference in replies. Those that have them say they are stiff but the people just looking from the outside say they should be almost like stock feel. Dont know what to think??
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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if we are talking about the Racing Beat springs that are rated as on Jason's site i will flatly tell you that they will be indistinguishable from stock. perhaps others have a different Racing Beat spring, or, springs work in conjunction w shocks and if you have a stiff shock (think r1) it will act the same, or worse, than an overly stiff spring.

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 03:22 AM
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I have tokicos shocks and struts with my racingbeat springs, swaybars,endlinks, and strutbar and the ride isnt that ruff I wish it was tighter
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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I ran RBs w/ the R1 shocks, and I thought it was the perfect street combo... much better than Koni/eibach.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by howard coleman
if we are talking about the Racing Beat springs that are rated as on Jason's site i will flatly tell you that they will be indistinguishable from stock. perhaps others have a different Racing Beat spring, or, springs work in conjunction w shocks and if you have a stiff shock (think r1) it will act the same, or worse, than an overly stiff spring.

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Howard, I had a set of RB springs from 1998. I thought they were stiff riding compared with my H&R springs (installed in 2000)? Shocks for both springs are the stock R1 Showa shocks. Apparently the new RB springs are now too soft, based on your spring test of stock springs, and Jason Baughman's spring rates published on his site for RB springs?
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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hi manny,
i hope to see you at the Rotary Rev in late april... it will be good to see my old friend IRP. i love the track and held the scca gt3 lap record there back in 89.

if you recall your Racing Beat springs as being stiffer than your H&R's they must have been different... i have a high regard for Racing Beat and i am surprised they would market such a zero for a spring/.... 260 front?? scratching my head.

it also appears that some of them have lost their tension. someone posted that he has over an inch of droop on one side of his car... since the upper shock rubbers are only abt 3/8 th inch thick and bilstein shocks have only 15 pounds internal pressure it can only be one thing a spring giving up due to bad heat treating.

see you at irp?

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by howard coleman
hi manny,
i hope to see you at the Rotary Rev in late april... it will be good to see my old friend IRP. i love the track and held the scca gt3 lap record there back in 89.

if you recall your Racing Beat springs as being stiffer than your H&R's they must have been different... i have a high regard for Racing Beat and i am surprised they would market such a zero for a spring/.... 260 front?? scratching my head.

it also appears that some of them have lost their tension. someone posted that he has over an inch of droop on one side of his car... since the upper shock rubbers are only abt 3/8 th inch thick and bilstein shocks have only 15 pounds internal pressure it can only be one thing a spring giving up due to bad heat treating.

see you at irp?

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Well, that's a shame for new Racing Beat spring owners, then. Maybe so many people bitched about how stiff RB springs were in '98, that RB softened the springs too much now LOL

What's a good laptime @ IRP road course for an FD Rx7 driver? I've never clocked myself there.

Sorry I won't be @ this year's Revo. Enjoy yourself!

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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so what Im getting out of this is that the RB springs are just going to lower my car. And I should probably get another spring that will add a little more performance while also lowering the car. BTW I was very happy with the suspension on the 94 already its very tight feeling and I just have m2 trailing arms rest is stock with 52k.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Which springs have the best ride quality for the street?
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by SurgeMonster
so what Im getting out of this is that the RB springs are just going to lower my car. And I should probably get another spring that will add a little more performance while also lowering the car.
Apparently Racing Beat's current spring rate isn't appreciably higher than stock. When lowering the car, the spring rate should increase to compensate for the lower ride height?
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by ~Aj~
Which springs have the best ride quality for the street?
Apparently, Racing Beat. Their spring rates are not so different from stock.

PM radkins to get a lightly used set for cheap!

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=286119
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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surgemonster,
there are a number of recent posts as to springs which you may have already checked out so here is the executive summary:

rate pounds per inch deflection
stock fd springs 263 front 195 rear
Racing Beat (as advtsd rx7 store) 260 fr 212 rear
Eibach Pro Kit 350 fr 255 rear
H&R (i don't know)

from what you stated i recommend the Eibachs. i have first hand experience w them. many people that run them consider them to be the best mod they have on their car. approx $250 at rx7 store or Pettit. they work very well w the stock non r1 shocks.

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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howard i read your last thread and ive already decided on the eibachs just because of how you described it. im excited to see what you are talking about...my racing beats are for sale brand new sad I have to get the eibachs now but better than installing them already. thank you for the input with evidence to back it!
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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BTW, your lower (rear) longitudinal link mod is right on the money... as the front bushing that controls engine thrust and braking is generally junk on most rx7s

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by howard coleman
from what you stated i recommend the Eibachs. i have first hand experience w them. many people that run them consider them to be the best mod they have on their car. approx $250 at rx7 store or Pettit. they work very well w the stock non r1 shocks.

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I definitely agree. I wish I had purchased mine a LOT sooner than I did.
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