7stock 8. . . who's going?
 

i'll be getting my ticket next month :D hope i'm not the only one making the trip from south florida :(

I plan to attend...

I would love to go but got school and it's FAAAAAAAR :(
Plan on driving your FD?
LOL ;)

Nope, I'm going to let Delta do the driving... err, umm, I mean flying. :D

I'm hoping to make it again this year. This would make year #4 for me. :D

Reese

yeah right, i can't get that much time off work. . . besides, i'm trying to put on 6k miles a year- not in one week!

Go West young man .. Due West
 

I plan on going if my car is done on time... my sponsor wants to install an AWD Suspension, 4 Rotor Motor, Streamline door panels, Stereo system, New Dyhedral Dual Actuation Doors, German Cloth top, Stereo system, E-Brake (pictured), .. Am I forgetting something ?

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y7...rvanRX7/e5.jpg

Ive missed them all...THIS ONE IM NOT MISSING. Going to travelocity right now....:D
and submitting vacation request from tomorrow.

What date and location?

WOW!! You're installing TWO stereo systems!? LOL. :D

The Koensegg doors would be really interesting to see as well. What are you going to control the 4 rotor with? NA, I assume?

With an AWD suspension, are you also planning to convert to an AWD driveline as well? If so, what will be your donor for the front? If not, why an AWD suspension?

Sorry for all the questions, it just seems like an all out car.

Reese

:bsflag:

I plan to go to Don have you gotten your ticket yet?

This is how this setup works...
 

The Koenigsegg doors have been done before and this german guy Brunnen who is my sponsor is one of several persons who have done the same setup... I am just simply a 43 year old guy who loves his RX7 and met this guy who does some things with Rotaries that simply amazed me. I am not too mechanically inclined as in I am not able to take my own engine apart. So what have I done in the last two years since I have had my convertible ?

I have been educating myself with Rotary concept... I have now recently formed an RX7 Club here in Miami of which I have held two successful meets. In this process i have met some industry professionals such as Carlos Lopez who really knows his craft and others like Beale who does wonders with paint on a car. So I have met others that are really good at what they do with Rotary engines and cosmetic work. One of them is now my sponsor and this german guy manufactures the Lambo Door kits that i have put on my convertible and that I have installed on other 2nd Gens.

This german guy in essence wants some exposure to a degree and has opted to provide all these upgrades for my convertible since its the only 2nd gen that i own.. Believe when i tell you that i would not have the funds to take some of these projects on so I feel very fortunate that I am the chosen one. My sponsor manufactures all these neat things... like the AWD suspension that uses two LSD Diffs and semi shafts, a custom built and manufactured crossmember, and also Transfer case... the rack does have to be relocated the center... so if this sounds kind of logical to you who has more experience with RX7's then its not just gospel what I say.

This guy Brunnen makes 3 & 4 Rotor motors... without having to extend the nose ... supercharged or turbocharged of course.. the motors use three (3) spark plugs per rotor. and that is what mine will have... uses an SDS injection system that is used on Aircrafts.

So the AWD suspension works... when it gets on my car and its shown then all of you unbelievers will be swallowing your pride because you wont want to admit that it could have been possible... Did you know that no one makes a Lambo Door Kit for a 2nd Gen RX7 ? Well how do you like this that finally there is a german guy that does... and the proof is in the pudding... i have it on my ride.. my convertible.. all you have to do is come to one of my Miami RX7 Club Meets.. the next one is the NOPI nationals at MOROSO motorsports park on June 5th or just ask some of the people on this thread. Ask MazdaGirl81, DVls-7, or Outkast.. they know what i have on my vert.. they have seen the other kits like the AWD in my plans... so I will have these items in my car because they actually exist. I will be getting carbon fiber fenders as well... or dont you believe that those could be possible as well ?

Here is another kit that will be going on my vert... it is a Hood Kit... the hood lifts up vertically and then glides back and rests right above the windshield so the engine bay is exposed.

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y7...O_1003copy.jpg

Umm... ok?

1. AWD suspension...

It's not a matter of "can this be done?",
but rather "why would someone do this???"...

2. 4-rotors with 3 plugs each...

:bsmeter:

The hood kit sounds pretty nice though if it works...
It would mean the ability to pull your engine without having to realign the hood... :D

Why not do it ?
 

I dont understand some of you guys on here... instead of being positive and supportive you have to resort to ridiculing someone who actually has a vested interest in innovation. If a modification can be done to enhance a vehicle, then why not do it ? Brunnen is a master mechanic and has the knowledge and experience in working with Rotaries. If he has figured out a way to have the performance one would be seeking no matter if it was 2 or 4 spark plugs I believe that it would raise an eyebrow. Perhaps no one has ever done it before , until now... and I am looking forward to taking that step in doing something that probably has never been done before. Why not ?

YES... AWD ALL WHEEL DRIVE SUSPENSION

YES... 4 ROTORS W/ 3 PLUGS EACH

I have been running motorcycle NGK spark plugs of which at first i thought to be a crazy thing to do .. but let me tell you what a difference over the irridium plugs... try it... you may like it... but dont knock down someones idea because it may sound ridiculous to you or not jibe with you...

We currently have a 2nd Gen Vert with a 3rd Gen Single Mongo Turbo motor in it... and it flies... with the wheels on the ground of course... i had to clarify that before i would be expected to recieve another remark with a BS Meter as you were so easily to send.

Dont mudsling man.... just enjoy the ride.. you may just learn something..

You have already tried the correct Irridium plugs?
The iridiums are much better than regular "motorcycle" B9 or B10 EGV's.

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For the Haters:

The 26B was a Four Rotor with 3 spark plugs ber rotor as well.

Not yet. I might do the last minute thing and wait till closer to the event date.

Here is a pic of the Hood Kit..
 

No Man... its not about that... its about having a Trick item on your car... as in a car show you can really show off your engine bay..

Why are you so Negative ? and so pessimistic ? All this stuff i mentioned has been proven and it works.. you might want to get on the list to buy one of these from me.. and the price is going to be contingent on what your attitude towards me is like.. and right now it seems as though you got money to blow so money is no object. Since it seems that you want to pay more than the other guys... Phew!!! I would just relax... chill with all this Negativity...

BTW... How young are you ? :confused:

Here is a pic of the Hood Kit..
 

No Man... its not about that... its about having a Trick item on your car... as in a car show you can really show off your engine bay..

Why are you so Negative ? and so pessimistic ? All this stuff i mentioned has been proven and it works.. you might want to get on the list to buy one of these from me.. and the price is going to be contingent on what your attitude towards me is like.. and right now it seems as though you got money to blow so money is no object. Since it seems that you want to pay more than the other guys... Phew!!! I would just relax... chill with all this Negativity...

BTW... How young are you ? :confused: https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y7...anRX7/kit1.jpg

I just want to know where to get info on this event?????
Thanks

hmm, well alot of the 4 rotor engines do have 3 plugs per housing. Where you would find these housings for sale is what id be asking. From what i know they really didnt produce that many at all.

Wow, its not that it cant be done, I guessin people are just wondering why someone would even bother trying and waisting good time and money.

:worship: For all your work and effort... But if you would have taken a moment to notice, some of us don't own 2nd gens so all your babbling about jumping on the bandwagon, buying from you and swallowing our pride will do us no good. Besides, what kind of car are you trying to build? A street car, a show car, a performance car, a sound competition car (2 stereo systems), an off-road rally car or a conglomerate of all the above... BKA :gotrice:

october 8th in southern california. it's under 'upcoming events'. look for 'sevenstock 8!'

Hmmm, looks right at home with these cars...
 

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Pretty funny HDP... Hijo De Pu?

Ok... It's not about whether it can be done or not...
We all know that an AWD system for the FC is possible...
But the weight would throw off the car's handling characteristics
to such an immense degree, that it would defeat itself...

Yes the R26B had 3 plugs per rotor... BUT!
You were talking about "making" a 4-rotor engine
with the aforementioned plug arrangement, not purchasing it...
Go ahead... Tell your friend to go and fab you up some housings! :bigthumb:
You'll NEED 4 rotors just to move that heavy POS... :rolleyes:

I understand your passion, believe me I do...
But when it's all said and done, think about how many rebuilds
you could have got with the money you're talking about dumping
into needless "Monster Garage" -esqe modifications...

Just a little food for thought...

Aren't you a little old to be a ricer? :rolleyes:

Buy this... :flipoff:

Lol
 

:rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh:

Hey Guys/Girl...

Sevenstock 8 is going to be on October 8th in Irvine, California at Mazda R&D. There are usually other things happening on the weekend like a Friday night meet before the event, and also another meet on Sunday. In the past it has been at Racing Beat, but it might be different this year. Theres a bunch of hotels that are close to the venue that is listed on sevenstock.org.

Give me a call/pm if you end up coming Damian. I live about 40 miles from Irvine so we can meet up.

thanx for the info. i can't wait!

Thats cool. I'll keep you posted.

I'll go again. BUT ONLY IF THE SOUTHEAST GETS TOGETHER TO PARTY! Ryan and I closed the bar every night at the hotel...alone :D So, everyone SWEAR they will party out there! SWEAR IT and we'll host some parties at the RXTuner suite :D

B

What? I was there one night, I just wasn't drinking as much as you guys.

That's true! That was between hurricanes too!

B

Ill party... but I dont think I can drink too much considering I would have to drive back home after. Plus I believe I will be working the event so I would have to get up really early Sat morning.

man i'd love to go.. but i thought the 7th was the last one.. i guess they are gonna keep throwing these?

A. There are (2) known places that you can get 4 rotors with 3 plugs per housing.

1. Mazda - You cannot get the 26. That is a fact. Even if they would sell one to you (which they wouldn't), you couldn't afford it.

2. Rick Engman (Mazmart) - This is who built the motors for Jim Downing's car (SRP 63). If you were to buy a used one from him, you would be looking at $50k. I doubt someone that could dump $50k on a motor (remember used, not new, new is $125k+), would be dropping it in a FC when they haven't even replaced the top. Plus, he has no plans to sell one to the public either.

You are not going to get a 4 rotor with 3 plugs per housing. Do you even know why there are 3 spark plugs? I do. It does not help you get any more power at all. It is simply to burn all of the fuel in the housing to get the maximum amount of mileage in an endurance race. These motors were used ONLY for endurance racing.

B. AWD - Only one person has successfully converted a FC to AWD that I know of - Millen. He had a 20B with AWD back in the mid 80's for rally racing. It took all of the room under the hood. You want a 4 rotor with AWD, and not cut the nose? Then you will physically have to cut the firewall out and make a custom one in it's place. Looking at the photo of your car, you have no clue as to what must be dome, or you would have stripped the car down to a bare shell first, before attempting even the first modification.

Well, you could just crash in someone's room. Bring an over-night bag and you're set.

Fuggedaboutit !!
 

Regardless of your fact or eyewitness account for some guy named Millen... The guy doing my engine and AWD suspension is a german guy named Brunnen who has done this procedure and work before...

FYI Rod Millen is one of the most noted names in motorsports...
You're just failing to realize the point here.
It seems as if you're grasping for attention or something,
but the truth is, most FC owners are purists in every sense of the word,
and rather than congratulating you for achieving such a feat,
they'll (we'll) tell you that you're an idiot for wasting so much money
doing needless mods to a car that was already nearly perfect...
It just reminds me of "Monster Garage" or something of that nature...

What I'm trying to say is this...
You won't gain much respect from the FC community for
ricing out a 7 with gullwing doors and other related junk...
If you're gonna waste a perfectly good car on that,
go buy something no one cares about...

Like a Nash Metropolitan! :bigthumb:

But don't act like everyone's gonna fall at your feet just because
you wanna put a "homebrew" 4-rotor engine in your car...
All I gotta say is have fun bro... ;)

Show me photos of him with a car that he has personally built with either the 4 rotor that you are talking about or the AWD conversion in it. If it's in Miami I'll come and see it. My wife's family is in Miami and I come down there often.

What his shop's name and address?

sounds alot like an ostrich with its head stuck in the ground doesnt it?
 

Who is this guy "David88vert" who is talking about the 4 rotor stuff? You put way too much stock in guys like that. They want to show off their "web knowledge" of all things 7. If they havent seen something then it doesnt exist...sounds alot like an ostrich with its head stuck in the ground doesnt it?

The most truthfull thing that he said in his email was "that I know of"...That HE knows of." See if he will put his money where his mouth is. An AWD FC with a 4 rotor is shown to him if he will cough up 2000 dollars. Real bet with a mediator holding the cash. Impartia.. PLENTY of people get 4 rotors. Show him the pics I sent you and send him to 4 rotor.com or KIWI racing www.KIWI.com I think.

As to the plugs of course they are mainly for mileage but ALSO efficency and that is horsepower as well and they all count. However, you also do it just for the effect at a show.

As Im suire you are aware every little thing you can do earns you points. Worms like this guy just like to talk. I like his line about the FC being perfect and not wanting to "rice" it! Why not? Its a RICE BURNER like most all the other cars built today.

He also tries to speak for the whole FC community. EVERYONE is different and likes to customize thier cars to show their preference. Its a small percentage of people who
like to leave cars bone stoick because they are PERFECT. The FC is nice but FAR from perfect. It was actually built in the wrong direction from the 1st gen which was lighter and racer. It did get some improvemnets like independant suspension and a bigger wheelbase but it also got heavier. Mostly it was aimed at the college boy market. It just BARELY had all the aluminum parts on it. They were done just at the last minute so iit could be marketed in the US otherwise it would have been a leadslead...

The third gen is much closer to perfect but even it has issues. This is the kind of guy that never loses an argument (in his head) so you cant tell him anything. You go right on showing off all the mods to your car and tell him to smoke a turd.

Better yet, just dont talk to him. Extend the nose...please. See if he will make a bet for October. As far as pics he will surely back down when he sees the AWD setup in the car so ...

Could i seriously ask WTF is the point of doing a 4 rotor and an AWD setup??? i mean thats fully understandable that the FC is far from perfect i think everyone knows that but doing a 4 rotor and an AWD setup is just plain dumb no offense i just think its a waste of time now you tell me car is going to be a 100% full out race car the AWD would be great for the twistes and the 4 rotor would be more than enough power at top end speeds....and my same comment is the one everyone else has the amount of moeny it requires to do something like that is 100% waste of time i bet $20 i dont ever see that car getting a 4 rotor or an AWD setup....
TwEaK

Hey Tweak, - Aren't you and Zondervan good friends?

ummmm no

What would that have to do with it? If I had a friend who was an idiot, he would still be my friend but wouldn't change the fact he was an idiot. :bigthumb:

LMAO. You might actually get this stuff done, but as far as your comments, just keep quiet, please. Your comments that you have made in here have absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread topic.

As for the facts that David made concerning the 4 rotor motors, he is correct. It is NOT speculation. I'd say that Jim Downing and Rick Engman's histories are proven fact and they definitely are NOT in a position where they have to try to prove "web knowledge". No one is saying that your mechanic can't pull this stuff off, but it's YOU that is spouting a whole lot of garbage on the web with nothing that can currently back it up. Once you get everything together AND running correctly, come back and show us that we were wrong. Simple as that.

Also, I'm curious as to why you find it neccessary to post irrelevant garbage in other people's thread's JUST for the sake of trying to draw attention to yourself? If you really want to do that, make your OWN thread!

Any chance that a mod could trim all of this unneeded crap out of this thread?

Oh, and to stay on topic, I intend to attend Sevenstock again this year. :D

Reese LeBlanc