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93rx74lyfe 06-19-08 06:22 PM

R35 GTR Vs. RE FD3s Touge Match
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7tHpnf0CI8

I guess where still the kings of the Touge world. Enjoy!

SLOASFK 06-19-08 07:30 PM

That was a very good race. RE-A RX-7 FTW

myersprostatus 06-19-08 07:54 PM

epicccccc

azn akira 06-19-08 08:04 PM


I guess where still the kings of the Touge world. Enjoy!
not really. if you watched the rest of the dvd the re amemiya rx7 had its first lost against the j's racing s2000. it was in the wet though...the amemiya fd couldnt put down anypower. whereas the j's racing s2k being n/a and "only" having 300hp had a much easier time in the wet

silentblu 06-19-08 08:11 PM

i'm assuming the gtr was stock?

azn akira 06-19-08 08:16 PM

no it wasnt stock

SLOASFK 06-19-08 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by azn akira (Post 8300551)
not really. if you watched the rest of the dvd the re amemiya rx7 had its first lost against the j's racing s2000. it was in the wet though...the amemiya fd couldnt put down anypower. whereas the j's racing s2k being n/a and "only" having 300hp had a much easier time in the wet

That's a really old race, though...and that's the only time I've seen that FD lose.

Originally Posted by silentblu (Post 8300581)
i'm assuming the gtr was stock?

stock engine, beefed up suspension. More power isn't nessecerally a good thing on such a tight course.

azn akira 06-19-08 08:18 PM


That's a really old race, though...and that's the only time I've seen that FD lose.
ummm no....its on the same dvd hot version vol 93, ie the newest one out. and its the ONLY time the amemiya fd has lost

REVERE 06-20-08 06:10 AM

impressive.
Give the gt-r guy's a year or two and you will be strugling to beat them
you have to admit the car did well for a fatty

Boost Lee 06-20-08 09:26 AM

How do you hold a gear in the GTR? Say you wanna purposely over-rev just to make it to the next corner so you don't unload the suspension. Is that possible? Or will it shift for you at redline no matter what?

azn akira 06-20-08 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Boost Lee (Post 8301985)
How do you hold a gear in the GTR? Say you wanna purposely over-rev just to make it to the next corner so you don't unload the suspension. Is that possible? Or will it shift for you at redline no matter what?

iirc it wont shift unless you tell it to

magus2222 06-20-08 03:43 PM

mmmmm, paddle shifting. i hate the new skyline, as a processor of the skyline name, its a redheaded bastard child that was dumbed at the orphanage, with a hump on its back.
as its very own car, no follow up to any existing car lineup, its dope.
anyways, not bad, but i dont think its really a fair fight
technology, awd, paddle shifting vs a 90's car that the ecu only manages the engines neccessities. one weighs WAY more than the other but makes up for it in technology and $$$, while the other is light, nimble, and very deadly.
not a fair fight, but fuck the "gtr 35"

Lloyd

azn akira 06-20-08 07:48 PM


i hate the new skyline, as a processor of the skyline name, its a redheaded bastard child that was dumbed at the orphanage, with a hump on its back.
are you talking about the skyline (g35) or the gtr (which is no longer related to the skyline)?

either way the g35 (skyline) is a good successor to the skyline. non gtr skylines are nothing to brag about

if you are talking about the gtr being the successor to the skyline gtr then its also a good successor. the old gtr's were never light and always relied upon their fancy awd system. the gtr has always relied on technology to go fast.

magus2222 06-21-08 02:22 AM

sure, but it looks like ass.
and in no way is the g35 the freaking skyline. jesus, why do people say that?

Lloyd

SLOASFK 06-21-08 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by magus2222 (Post 8304435)
and in no way is the g35 the freaking skyline. jesus, why do people say that?

Lloyd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline


Originally Posted by Wiki
The current Skyline is sold in North America, South Korea, Taiwan, and the Middle East as the Infiniti G35.


Qball 06-21-08 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by magus2222 (Post 8304435)
sure, but it looks like ass.
and in no way is the g35 the freaking skyline. jesus, why do people say that?

Lloyd



crawl out from under that rock.

http://www2.nissan.co.jp/SKYLINE/V36/0710/index.html

RE-Amemiya 06-21-08 05:36 PM

Awesome; i obviously LOVE the RE-Amemiya FD! Thanks for the link to the video.

NeilTII 06-21-08 08:08 PM

I like the part before they start racing where Amemiya-san basically say's "The 35 is a new car so if we loose....screw it, it can't be helped." He's no rookie, he knows that technology is eventually going to pass the FD. That's why Mazda needs to hurry up and throw that 16X into something :)

Rotary_Powerd 06-21-08 09:39 PM

RE-Amemiya is amazing. My favorite races are still against the Amuse S2000 though.

mperformance 06-23-08 09:16 AM

guys I just watched the whole hot version video. The Amemiya FD does loose to the J's S2000 :( , the R35 is still no match for the FD though, let's wait until the MCR R35 gets fully tuned Im sure it will beat the FD.

the S2000 was softtop, and won with no effort, although road conditions were really wet giving the edge to the underpowered S2000. Still Amemiya lost.

:( :(

very good video though

Naegleria_Fowleri 06-23-08 11:36 AM

Great video.

And why the hell do you guys care if the RE-Amemiya FD lost to an S2K in the rain? That doesn't mean the car is now a piece of shit or anything.

SLOASFK 06-23-08 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Naegleria_Fowleri (Post 8309980)
Great video.

And why the hell do you guys care if the RE-Amemiya FD lost to an S2K in the rain? That doesn't mean the car is now a piece of shit or anything.

You have to understand, this car's been running on that track for like 5 years, maybe longer. It debuted by knocking off the R34 and hasn't lost since.

1QWIK7 06-23-08 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by magus2222 (Post 8304435)
sure, but it looks like ass.
and in no way is the g35 the freaking skyline. jesus, why do people say that?

Lloyd


Looks like ass is an opinion.

Im sure lots of people say the FD looks ugly, or like a probe. Thats their opinion.

And the G35 IS a skyline. Just as the rsx here was the integra over there, and people here calling the rsx an integra.

Its the same shit.

laserandrew 06-24-08 01:07 AM

"Im sure lots of people say the FD looks ugly, or like a probe. Thats their opinion."

but there seems to be a consensus that the fd is a nice looking car. So I don't know how you're "SURE" that lots of people think its ugly. I've heard more mixed opinions about the gtr's looks.

Archie 06-24-08 01:45 AM

Frankly, the driver of the FD had to fight it the whole time. Whether it was twitchy, weather, or a combo; the GT-R looked a lot more composed. MCR will definitely come out with a better tune in a year or two. Hats of to Mr. Amemiya for another win though!

Naegleria_Fowleri 06-24-08 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by SLOASFK (Post 8310215)
You have to understand, this car's been running on that track for like 5 years, maybe longer. It debuted by knocking off the R34 and hasn't lost since.

I know, but it is only a matter of time before technology catches up.

fd3s_7 08-03-08 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by azn akira (Post 8300601)
ummm no....its on the same dvd hot version vol 93, ie the newest one out. and its the ONLY time the amemiya fd has lost

the re amemiya only lost to js s2000 in the wet recently. only one loss for the re amemiya. cant believe she did so well against a gtr r35.
heres the unfortunate video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4EwWZrjJE8

dial8 08-06-08 02:37 AM

Damn, the video's gone.

fd3s_7 08-06-08 10:01 AM

if your stil looking for the r35 gtr vs rx7 video, its still up there.

re-rx7 08-06-08 10:21 AM

Yea i watched that and still it amazes me that a 15 yr old car can still manage to keep up with twin clutch, attessa awd, twin turbo v6.

dial8 08-06-08 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by fd3s_7 (Post 8443672)
if your stil looking for the r35 gtr vs rx7 video, its still up there.

Right on. The link was dead, but after some searching I found it. Bad ass man, that RE FD is big!

fd3s_7 08-06-08 10:14 PM

not just saying because im an fd fan but from this performance against a R35 GTR is just staggering. like mr.amemiya said, mazda has to come up with something very special to top this fd3s. this re amemiya rx7 is still running stock turbos and full interior trim for god sake :D just unbelievable

speedjunkie 08-06-08 11:12 PM

It says that video was removed due to copyright infringement...that sucks, I really wanted to see it. Does anyone know of another link?

dial8 08-07-08 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 8446053)
It says that video was removed due to copyright infringement...that sucks, I really wanted to see it. Does anyone know of another link?

just type this in the search bar: r35 gtr vs rx7 video

That worked for me

speedjunkie 08-07-08 08:22 PM

Thanks dial8!

...And still champion!

Looked like Keichei (sp?) lost control a little around the first corner, maybe he was just letting it slide a little. And the first run looked like a pretty good match actually, alot better than what the FEED FD did to the S15, ouch.

The second run looked like a good match too, in both vids they would pull away from each other out of the corners. And that GT-R handled damn good for it's weight. But OUCH at the end hahaha.

fd3s_7 08-10-08 11:44 AM

recently downloaded hot version 93 the dvd of this epic battle between gtr35 and re amemiya and i strongly recommend you guys to download it. theres the js2000 in the latest form. re amemiya rx7. crazy feed rx7. r35 gtr. spoon civic type r sedan and a couple of more cars and you guys will be pissed off at the end result :) i was very dissapointed thanks to the weather conditions.

fd3s_7 08-10-08 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Rotary_Powerd (Post 8306042)
RE-Amemiya is amazing. My favorite races are still against the Amuse S2000 though.

same thats one of my favourites along with the amuse and js s2000 battling out in the battle that gets cancelled at the end from dangerous weather conditions.

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 08-10-08 02:28 PM

wow holy shit, that skyline sounds crazy

gripp2maxx 08-13-08 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by fd3s_7 (Post 8454400)
recently downloaded hot version 93 the dvd of this epic battle between gtr35 and re amemiya and i strongly recommend you guys to download it. theres the js2000 in the latest form. re amemiya rx7. crazy feed rx7. r35 gtr. spoon civic type r sedan and a couple of more cars and you guys will be pissed off at the end result :) i was very dissapointed thanks to the weather conditions.




where can you download this complete video

BobfisH 08-13-08 08:32 AM

IMO The RX7 didnt win that battle. It didnt lose, but it certainly didnt win...

a) The RX7 took a rolling start on its run. Power difference or no difference, that makes it not a fair fight. And added to that, the GTR Sticks on the 7's ass all through the corners.

b) If the sudden death had been the R35 first, im sure it would have won. IMO in some ways it did win - in the run with the RX7 ahead, notice how far apart the cars are a few turns from the end. Then notice how the gap has spread over the finihs line...something makes me think maybe the RX7 broke just before the end or something, causing the R35 to lose speed and spreading the gap.

Who knows?

The track did look damp though, im sure the rX7 would have fared better in the dry, given the immense drive that the GTR is going to have out of the corners (AWD)

The amemiya car is an awesome, awesome car, and my favourite FD Ever. But simply put - i think that when this car finally does get knocked off the top spot (which in my heart, it already has - by the R35 in that video) that its going to be knocked off by the R35.

Good video but a bad format for a fair and complete comparison. Make those runs a time attack type affair (timed runs on your own) and im pretty sure the GTR would have breezed it.

EJayCe996 08-13-08 11:52 AM

I dont' know what the rolling start really proved to you with anything, because they were both doing rolling starts regardless of who was leading, and for the most part there has almost ALWAYS been a rolling start in the touge battles. It is just that sometimes the leader took too long to start so the chase car would have to just about come to a stop to avoid passing the other car. 500hp GT-R + weight vs 480hp FD + weight would actually favor the FD in theory. You then have to factor in the clutch, and shifting of the FD vs the Paddleshift of the GT-R.

BurntOrangeT2 08-13-08 04:59 PM

well hats off to the s2k but it was rainy. god that re rx7 car is amazing

BobfisH 08-15-08 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 8462919)
I dont' know what the rolling start really proved to you with anything, because they were both doing rolling starts regardless of who was leading, and for the most part there has almost ALWAYS been a rolling start in the touge battles. It is just that sometimes the leader took too long to start so the chase car would have to just about come to a stop to avoid passing the other car. 500hp GT-R + weight vs 480hp FD + weight would actually favor the FD in theory. You then have to factor in the clutch, and shifting of the FD vs the Paddleshift of the GT-R.

The rolling start proved to me that it wasnt a totally fair race...

Touge battles are fun to watch,but that one was just far to close to say the FD won, it couldve gone either way - and put them both on a circuit and time laps, i think the GTR would win.

EJayCe996 08-15-08 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by BobfisH (Post 8467234)
The rolling start proved to me that it wasnt a totally fair race...

Touge battles are fun to watch,but that one was just far to close to say the FD won, it couldve gone either way - and put them both on a circuit and time laps, i think the GTR would win.

Then basically EVERY touge competition can't be a totally fair race to you since they all do rolling starts. This isn't about who gets to the first corner first, its about keeping up or pulling away.

No doubt, a circuit would allow the GT-R to stretch its legs a little easier as well as the fact that most circuits are "smooth" and constantly kept in better condition than our public roads (go figure, right?). The whole purpose of these competitions is to put fast cars in a "real world" environment, not the controlled environment of circuits, and see how they fare against one another. There has always been the saying "anything can happen on the streets" and thats they angle they're working from. Keep in mind RE's FD has more street time than the MCR's brand new GT-R so even with the numbers stacked against the FD, it has the advantage of seat time. Of course it'll take very little seat time for the GT-R to be fine tuned enough the destroy the FD.

BobfisH 08-15-08 06:42 PM

I know what you mean about it being a street competition, lets put it this way - do the FD and the GTR time attack style and i think the GTR would win.

It was just too far up the behind of the rx7 the whole time, and the rx7 couldnt pull a gap on it either...

fd3s_7 08-16-08 05:18 PM

a rx7 with full interior trim and sound system to beat a brand new godzilla modified is good enough imo. its still the touge king. and for the guy who wanted to know where to download the new hot version touge dvd its on seedpeer.com/best motoring and you should see hot version vol.93 there to download. thats the latest dvd which shows this r35 gtr battle in full length.

prew 08-19-08 10:11 PM

where can i find the specs on that fd?

matty 08-20-08 07:24 AM

touge proves nothing. its a pretty silly format if you ask me.

Archie 08-21-08 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by prew (Post 8478669)
where can i find the specs on that fd?

www.re-amemiya.jp/

prew 08-24-08 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Archie (Post 8482556)

your link doesnt work. but i have been on their site and i did not see it. maybe cause i cant read japanese.


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