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ultimatejay 09-26-08 10:25 PM

Time for wheelies!
 
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Well after three months of nothing but headaches from the rearend shop I finally got my 9" and it in and installed ready for Sevenstock. I still need to weld the brackets for the brake lines but zip ties will hold me to get by for Sevenstock.
Right now I am using the factory 4 links, but am in the process of making cromoly adjustable 4 link replacements that way I can make some slight adjustments/pinion. I am running 26x8.5x16 ET's and it was a very tight fit. I had to trim the front lower fender a little. I don't know how those Aussies fit a 9" tire under stock chassis. They must hammer the shit out of the body and fenders!
Well, here are some pics.

RoTaRyBoYz 09-26-08 10:36 PM

Looks good Jay... Did your lazer cut brackets line up perfect?? or did you have to redrill some of the holes?? I want a set of those brackets


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8589389)
I don't know how those Aussies fit a 9" tire under stock chassis. They must hammer the shit out of the body and fenders!

Some run stock frame rails with new wheel tubs... not sure if they notch the outter side of the frame rail for extra sidewall clearance

ultimatejay 09-26-08 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz (Post 8589408)
Looks good Jay... Did your lazer cut brackets line up perfect?? or did you have to redrill some of the holes?? I want a set of those brackets



Some run stock frame rails with new wheel tubs... not sure if they notch the outter side of the frame rail for extra sidewall clearance

Well, the dumbasses at the rearend shop did not square up the brakets when they welded them up so yes I had to enlargen a couple of holes. Also with the larger diameter housing tube they diden't raise the holes for the shock mount so the bottom of the shock would hit the housing tube so you wouldn't be able to put the bolt thru. SO I had to grind the bottom of the shock/strut to clear enough to be able to put the bolt thru. They did a pretty shotty job all in all, but the lazer brakets came out great, just need a compitant rearend guy who knows what he is doing to weld them up.

RoTaRyBoYz 09-26-08 10:49 PM

Whats the width of the rear from brake rotor to brake rotor??

Also, whats your back spacing on the wheels?

mannyvidal 09-27-08 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8589389)
Well after three months of nothing but headaches from the rearend shop I finally got my 9" and it in and installed ready for Sevenstock. I still need to weld the brackets for the brake lines but zip ties will hold me to get by for Sevenstock.
Right now I am using the factory 4 links, but am in the process of making cromoly adjustable 4 link replacements that way I can make some slight adjustments/pinion. I am running 26x8.5x16 ET's and it was a very tight fit. I had to trim the front lower fender a little. I don't know how those Aussies fit a 9" tire under stock chassis. They must hammer the shit out of the body and fenders!
Well, here are some pics.

:icon_tup: :icon_tup: :icon_tup: looks good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ultimatejay 09-27-08 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz (Post 8589428)
Whats the width of the rear from brake rotor to brake rotor??

Also, whats your back spacing on the wheels?

I am pretty sure it was 51.25" for disc to disc and that was with a 4.5 backspace wheel. It is very tight with the 26x 8.5 slicks. I'm going to have to do some more massaging. Also with the ford explorer disc brakes the left rear caliper lower bolt is right below the center tie bar bracket in the frame and if I jounce the suspension it hits so I have to notch that out. All in all I think its going to work out ok. We'll see.

Jesuscookies 10-03-08 02:55 PM

I have 8.5's in the back and they fit snugly, but well. You can get a 9 to fit on the passenger side with no mods, but not the driver side. The Gas tank, and panhard bar mount is in the way. If you remove the tank, and mounting bracket for the panhard, Along with knocking the shit out of the inner body well, 9's will fit.

ultimatejay 10-03-08 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jesuscookies (Post 8608235)
I have 8.5's in the back and they fit snugly, but well. You can get a 9 to fit on the passenger side with no mods, but not the driver side. The Gas tank, and panhard bar mount is in the way. If you remove the tank, and mounting bracket for the panhard, Along with knocking the shit out of the inner body well, 9's will fit.

Yep, I'll probably ditch the stock fuel tank and mount a fuel cell in the trunk in the near future anyway.

ultimatejay 10-25-08 08:49 PM

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Finally got my adjustable chromoly 4 links and panhard today with hine joints to replace the factory one's and installed them today. It's a breeze to make adjustments now! Finally ready to make some runs with the new rearend.:)
Here's some pics. from today.

ultimatejay 11-07-08 12:05 AM

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Finally ran the car tonight in the 1/8 mile for the first time with the new rearend. I wasn't used to tires actually hooking up and on my first run I was thrown back in the seat and let off on the gas pedal and ran a 9.5 but the car went straight as an arrow. After getting used to the new rearend my last run netted an 8.2 at 84 mph with a 1.7 60ft. I know it aint' no 9 second car that you guys are used to but I am proud of it for a 12a with a weber 48 all motor. On that last run I smoked a heavy modified Mach1 mustang- he was pissed.:lol: I know I can get down into the 7's with a higher launch rpm and some tweaks here and there. I am very happy with how everything turned out and look forward to better my times. :) Heres' a picture of my time slip. I'm in the right- toyota lane. I need to get some skinnies up front as my car was pretty loose at the top end.

AnthonyNYC 11-07-08 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8701240)
Finally ran the car tonight in the 1/8 mile for the first time with the new rearend. I wasn't used to tires actually hooking up and on my first run I was thrown back in the seat and let off on the gas pedal and ran a 9.5 but the car went straight as an arrow. After getting used to the new rearend my last run netted an 8.2 at 84 mph with a 1.7 60ft. I know it aint' no 9 second car that you guys are used to but I am proud of it for a 12a with a weber 48 all motor. On that last run I smoked a heavy modified Mach1 mustang- he was pissed.:lol: I know I can get down into the 7's with a higher launch rpm and some tweaks here and there. I am very happy with how everything turned out and look forward to better my times. :) Heres' a picture of my time slip. I'm in the right- toyota lane. I need to get some skinnies up front as my car was pretty loose at the top end.

Congrats bro!!!! You sound like you had a blast and that's what it's all about!

Anthony

rotorholic 11-07-08 02:16 AM

thats about a 12.80 pass in the 1/4 mile.......

teddyrx2 11-07-08 02:28 AM

nice bro...and like rotorholic said that is in the ball park of high 12...Dude get in contact with manny...From here on out if there is any thing that I have learned from manny over the years is "You can have all the fucking horse power in the world but if you can't get it to hook you an't got shit!!!" Hook up with manny he knows his shit about suspension setups bro

rex3 11-07-08 06:38 AM

Nice car........If you don't mind telling, where did you have the cromoly adjustable 4 link replacements made?
:icon_tup:


QUOTE=ultimatejay;8589389]Well after three months of nothing but headaches from the rearend shop I finally got my 9" and it in and installed ready for Sevenstock. I still need to weld the brackets for the brake lines but zip ties will hold me to get by for Sevenstock.
Right now I am using the factory 4 links, but am in the process of making cromoly adjustable 4 link replacements that way I can make some slight adjustments/pinion. I am running 26x8.5x16 ET's and it was a very tight fit. I had to trim the front lower fender a little. I don't know how those Aussies fit a 9" tire under stock chassis. They must hammer the shit out of the body and fenders!
Well, here are some pics.[/QUOTE]

rotaryB-2000 11-07-08 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by rex3 (Post 8701571)
Nice car........If you don't mind telling, where did you have the cromoly adjustable 4 link replacements made?
:icon_tup:

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[/QUOTE]

Whiteboy at MPH Racecars in new haven CT has Toyota and Mazda bolt on adjustable bars right on the shelf..... They work real well.
Give him a call

ultimatejay 11-07-08 08:33 PM

^ Thanks guys. The 9 second set up is not in my budget yet and with the looks of this economy it aint' going to be there anytime soon.

I was the only rotary at the racetrack last night and it was fun blowing by some v8's on the track and people looking at my engine and saying, " What is that?" LOL. Next time out, I'm going to side step at 9000rpm's and see what happens. Hopefully the TII trans will hold up. hehe.

rex3- I had my links made at a local machine/race shop by my area. My dad knows the guy. If you want the shops phone number just shoot me a pm. Those Links put a big hole in my pocket though.

myfc3s 11-08-08 04:22 PM

Where do you go to run this bad boy?

prrex4ever 11-08-08 04:33 PM

Awesome! Looks great and seems to run just as good. Congrats.

a_reyes1014 11-08-08 07:05 PM

hey jay congrats on the setup. lookin good. i have a similar setup nine inch on a first gen rx7 without cutting anything. right now it fits a 26x10.5x15 tire under it with a little more room. im having a problem with setting it up. the car kicks out a little to the right under light acceleration and especially with some boost on it. this is my first time doing suspension tuning and not sure what to look for. i have after market links with adjustable rod ends to help with the tuning. if i try to get my pinion angle correct it kicks out to the right. if i try to correct the kicking out i get bad pinion angle. if you guys know how to do this please help. i know this car has a lot more in it i just have to get all the little things worked out before i push more boost. i was told to setup the links with no preload on any of the links by the guys at grannys who sold me the setup. i tried but i feel like there is more to it than that.

ultimatejay 11-08-08 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by a_reyes1014 (Post 8705586)
hey jay congrats on the setup. lookin good. i have a similar setup nine inch on a first gen rx7 without cutting anything. right now it fits a 26x10.5x15 tire under it with a little more room. im having a problem with setting it up. the car kicks out a little to the right under light acceleration and especially with some boost on it. this is my first time doing suspension tuning and not sure what to look for. i have after market links with adjustable rod ends to help with the tuning. if i try to get my pinion angle correct it kicks out to the right. if i try to correct the kicking out i get bad pinion angle. if you guys know how to do this please help. i know this car has a lot more in it i just have to get all the little things worked out before i push more boost. i was told to setup the links with no preload on any of the links by the guys at grannys who sold me the setup. i tried but i feel like there is more to it than that.

I am by no means a chassis set up expert. I set my links the same length as the stock one's and set my pinion angle just a tad down. My car launches straight though, so I'm not messing with anything right now. The first thing I would check is make sure your rearend is perfectly parallel to the front axle. In other words the rear toe is straight and not off to one side, in your case to the right. If that checks out then I would check your panhard rod and adjustment. My friend has the same car as you and had the same problem that you had and he ended up making a custom panhard rod set up and it fixed his problem.

myfc3s- I ran my car at Irwindale dragway. Every thursday night they have run what you brung night. I should be back there in a couple of weeks. Going to do some tweaks and hopefully get down into the 7's.

a_reyes1014 11-08-08 11:35 PM

thanks for the info jay and hope it gets better each time you get out there. im running the stock watts link so i cant really adjust it but will check for the toe. also my angle is set to -5 is that ok? where is yours set?

myfc3s 11-08-08 11:54 PM

cool
 
myfc3s- I ran my car at Irwindale dragway. Every thursday night they have run what you brung night. I should be back there in a couple of weeks. Going to do some tweaks and hopefully get down into the 7's.[/QUOTE]


Im not too far from there, let me know when you guys head out there. i would like to show some love and help take out some domestics.

rotaryB-2000 11-10-08 09:51 AM

Whiteboy at MPH Racecars in new haven CT has Toyota and Mazda bolt on adjustable bars right on the shelf..... They work real well.
Give him a call[/QUOTE]

MPH Fabrications LLC
Mike Carbone
203-234-9559..
50 United Drive Unit B
North Haven CT 06474

mannyvidal 11-10-08 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by a_reyes1014 (Post 8705586)
hey jay congrats on the setup. lookin good. i have a similar setup nine inch on a first gen rx7 without cutting anything. right now it fits a 26x10.5x15 tire under it with a little more room. im having a problem with setting it up. the car kicks out a little to the right under light acceleration and especially with some boost on it. this is my first time doing suspension tuning and not sure what to look for. i have after market links with adjustable rod ends to help with the tuning. if i try to get my pinion angle correct it kicks out to the right. if i try to correct the kicking out i get bad pinion angle. if you guys know how to do this please help. i know this car has a lot more in it i just have to get all the little things worked out before i push more boost. i was told to setup the links with no preload on any of the links by the guys at grannys who sold me the setup. i tried but i feel like there is more to it than that.

:wallbash: pinion angle has nothing to do with kick out , i got your pm and responded let me know what u find , :icon_tup: :icon_tup: :icon_tup:

13B-RX3 11-10-08 06:48 PM

The car looks great Jay, you really did a good job and you should be proud of yourself!


Is it a 4 link setup reyes?

ultimatejay 11-10-08 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by 13B-RX3 (Post 8710107)
The car looks great Jay, you really did a good job and you should be proud of yourself!


Is it a 4 link setup reyes?


Thanks Allen, I guess the wait was worth it. Next time I run I'll make sure to get some vid. Hopefully I can break into the 7's in the 8th mile. The next 1/4 mile event around my area is not until next month.

I think Reyes, is running the stock first get rear link setup. It's similar to the rx2 but uses the watts links.

Travieso 11-13-08 11:04 PM

Nice Car !!!!!!

RoTaRyBoYz 11-13-08 11:07 PM

Hey Jay, don't cry.... ^ You have 1 reply from the Crispeed camp

here goes my reply... Nice car, good luck with it

ultimatejay 11-13-08 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by Travieso (Post 8719649)
Nice Car !!!!!!

Thanks, you have been one of my inspirations. My heart sank when I heard you crashed your car. Defenitely one of my favorite all motor cars of all time. Go the OLD school! You don't see many all motor cars anymore let alone Old school ones'.

Thanks, Aaron.

mannyvidal 11-17-08 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8719698)
Thanks, you have been one of my inspirations. My heart sank when I heard you crashed your car. Defenitely one of my favorite all motor cars of all time. Go the OLD school! You don't see many all motor cars anymore let alone Old school ones'.

Thanks, Aaron.

well whats up r u game or what :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://www.baronadrags.com/schedule.shtml

ultimatejay 11-17-08 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by mannyvidal (Post 8729345)
well whats up r u game or what :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://www.baronadrags.com/schedule.shtml

I'm Game. Are you going out there?

mannyvidal 11-17-08 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8729379)
I'm Game. Are you going out there?


yeah we will be out there its a very nice track , rene santos and jose have been there , very cool setting :icon_tup: i will let you know just do those things i told you and your car will better its 60':icon_tup:

a_reyes1014 11-18-08 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by 13B-RX3 (Post 8710107)
The car looks great Jay, you really did a good job and you should be proud of yourself!


Is it a 4 link setup reyes?

yes it is. its the factory four link on the '85 rx7 with grannies adjustable uppers and lower. and manny i know the pinion angle has nothing to do with the kick out but when i try to adjust for the kick out there is a really bad vibration coming from driveshaft. thanks guys and jay keep us updated on the car good luck with it.

13B-RX3 11-18-08 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by a_reyes1014 (Post 8731130)
yes it is. its the factory four link on the '85 rx7 with grannies adjustable uppers and lower. and manny i know the pinion angle has nothing to do with the kick out but when i try to adjust for the kick out there is a really bad vibration coming from driveshaft. thanks guys and jay keep us updated on the car good luck with it.

Start a new thread so we can discuss it without mucking up Jay's thread.

mannyvidal 11-18-08 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by 13B-RX3 (Post 8731281)
Start a new thread so we can discuss it without mucking up Jay's thread.

:scratch: i enjoy tread jackings jays shit :lol: :lol: :lol: he dont mind :icon_tup: :icon_tup: :icon_tup:

a_reyes1014 11-18-08 08:08 PM

my bad jay will start new thread

mannyvidal 11-18-08 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by a_reyes1014 (Post 8731987)
my bad jay will start new thread

puss :lol: :lol: :lol:

a_reyes1014 11-18-08 08:27 PM

lol

ultimatejay 11-18-08 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by mannyvidal (Post 8731371)
:scratch: i enjoy tread jackings jays shit :lol: :lol: :lol: he dont mind :icon_tup: :icon_tup: :icon_tup:

I don't mind, at least I'm getting some responses now.:lol: :lol:

mannyvidal 11-18-08 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8732412)
I don't mind, at least I'm getting some responses now.:lol: :lol:

:squint: :gay:

ultimatejay 11-18-08 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by mannyvidal (Post 8732446)
:squint: :gay:

Hey Manny, I ported the shit out of my intake manifold. Sorry, I couldn't just clean it up, I got a little crazy but it looks really good. I'll post some pics of it soon. I still have a little more porting to go. The stock manifold runners are way restrictive. I think I'll shave a couple tenths off my time just by the weight of all the alluminum I took off. LOL

ultimatejay 11-18-08 11:00 PM

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Ok, I still have alot of work left to do. This is rough cut and then smoothed out with 40 grit. I still have to take some more out of the openings as you can see with the black marker and scribe. I think I freed up quite a few ponies as the stock runners/casting were awful. Here's some bad pics. I tried shinning a flash light in one end so you can see the flow better. Tell me what you guys think. I'm open for pointers.

ultimatejay 11-29-08 10:29 PM

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Ok ready for a trip to the dragstrip again. I finally finished porting my intake and it turned out really nice. While I was doing that I had my 48IDA converted to 51 and also modified to use 55dcoe boosters and customer velocity stacks. I also had the float bowl enlargened and reamed both fuel intakes. Going to start it up in the morning and do some quick street dyno tunes and then take it to the track to dial everything in this thursday or next. This time I'll get some vid. I'm hoping to get into the 7's in the 8th. Wish me luck. Here's a couple pics of the carb.

13B-RX3 11-29-08 10:31 PM

Looks nice Jay.

mannyvidal 11-29-08 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8759463)
Ok ready for a trip to the dragstrip again. I finally finished porting my intake and it turned out really nice. While I was doing that I had my 48IDA converted to 51 and also modified to use 55dcoe boosters and customer velocity stacks. I also had the float bowl enlargened and reamed both fuel intakes. Going to start it up in the morning and do some quick street dyno tunes and then take it to the track to dial everything in this thursday or next. This time I'll get some vid. I'm hoping to get into the 7's in the 8th. Wish me luck. Here's a couple pics of the carb.



:icon_tup:

ultimatejay 11-29-08 10:46 PM

Thanks guys, should run like a stripped ass ape on the top. :)

rotoryota 11-30-08 06:00 PM

Nice work Jay. It looks like you will have updated times in your sig soon.

Alex Rodriguez 11-30-08 08:17 PM

very nice Jay

you have the drag wheels for the front or you running just the rears for now

ultimatejay 11-30-08 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Alex Rodriguez (Post 8761615)
very nice Jay

you have the drag wheels for the front or you running just the rears for now

I am saving up for the aerospace 5 lug conversion front brake kit and then the front runners. That's about 1200.00 bucks away that I don't have right now so the enkies will have to suffice until then.

ultimatejay 11-30-08 11:15 PM

Forgot to tell you guys. I took the car out and made a couple passes down a long street by my house to check the tune, slicks and all. Damn, I'm way rich now. My afrs are very low 12's all the way to 10krpm and my egt temps are low 1500degrees! I thought with all that airflow from the carb and intake porting I would be way lean but I guess the larger 55 boosters made it run rich. Even running this rich the car pulled really hard especially on the top end. Going to take it to the track this thursday and finish the tune there.

On one of the runs I pulled into a little shopping center to check my EGT temps and there were people flying out of shops to see what was making all that brap brap noise.:) I love it. Glad there were no cops around, it would have been hard to explain the no interior and slicks. :lol:


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