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crispeed 10-04-06 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by silvr94r2
I believe you! I just said the secret comment cause i saw a couple pics of one of the 1st gens......and the guys who were working on the motor were covering it up so you couldn't see anything. I'm all for keeping a few secrets but when you build a racecar people wanna see it. You don't have to tell them every spec but at least show it off right?

Thanks for the links! At least one of those sparked my interest ;)

Which one? :)

AnthonyNYC 10-04-06 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by crispeed
No Secret.
Just a proven combination that they all have been running from day one that has been tweaked and refined to what it's at now.
Everything under the hood of just every one of them you can buy at a speed shop. There's actually notting that's custom made one of a kind and trust me when I tell you that. :)

Do you what size apex seals they are using? 2mm or 3mm?

Anthony

crispeed 10-04-06 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
Do you what size apex seals they are using? 2mm or 3mm?

Anthony

Does it really matter :)
I know people using Rx-8 apex seals in earlier rotors making 800hp.
Let me guess now you want to know how that's done too. :)

It's the entire combination . Engine builder/ Engine tuner/Chassis tuner/ Driver just to name a few.

AnthonyNYC 10-04-06 05:34 AM

I tried to edit my above post but the time expired....this is what I meant to say...

Actually yes, I would like to know how that is done. I'm sure everyone on the drag racing section would want to know. That's why everyone is here. The question is would you share that info? I really did not care if the seals were 2mm or 3mm but I figured if I could not get a straight answer to that, why bother asking what seals are they actually using? It matters to me and others that are trying to go faster with a rotary. If I'm a guy trying to build my own motors and tune my own car all the help matters. It's too costly to make mistakes when you want to stay in this sport. Also, if you are in this sport and not building your own motors or tuning your own car, its even harder.

The PR guys are successful because they share info and work as a team. I can't say the same for the US. Even your reply is sort of an example of what I mean. It's obvious you know things that can help others but how much of that would you really share? Hopefully in the future the US rotary guys will all help each other and share info and have more rotaries in various classes instead of the new trend of dumping the rotary engine for an LS1.

Anthony

crispeed 10-04-06 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
It matters to me and others that are trying to go a little faster. If I'm a guy trying to build my own motors and tune my own car all the help matters. It's too costly to make mistakes when you want to stay in this sport. Also, if you are in this sport and not building your own motors or tuning your own car, its even harder.

The PR guys are successful because they share info and work as a team. I can't say the same for the US. Even your reply is sort of an example of what I mean. It's obvious you know things that can help others but how much of that would you really share or want to share?

For now when I need help I'll stick to asking TandR, Dee, Judge Ito, John Duarte, Waynespeed and a few others that are willing to help the "little guys" Hopefully in the future the US rotary guys will all help each other with tips etc and have more rotaries in various classes.

Anthony

Hey Anthony
I did not mean to come across to you like you think I was. If anyone have help anybody on this forum it would be me. The answer I gave to you was based on the general theme of the thread. It was not directed to you personaly and if I came across that way them I'm sorry and appologise to you for being a complete idiot/asshole/shitface.
I would also hope by now after reading countless threads on the subject of apex seals that the size does not matter.:)
Actually it's engine builder/tuner preferences. If anything the brand of seals do play a part also but again that also is dependant on preferences. If anything the latest choices in apex seals do offer some more reliability when running at those extreme operation levels.
Some brands that have made a major impact on the industry as of late would be NRS, PTS and SCR apex seals.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/nrsrotorsports/index.html

http://www.performancetestedseals.com/

http://www.southcoastrotary.com.au/scrseals.htm

AnthonyNYC 10-04-06 05:53 AM

Now I feel like an asshole for my response. I'm just grouchy because I hurt a motor and spent the past few days working on the car again and didn't have it ready for the last NHRA event and had to sit there and watch everyone else race. Sorry dude! Thanks for the response. I'm leaving this thread alone now before I get in any more trouble. :)

Anthony


Originally Posted by crispeed
Hey Anthony
I did not mean to come across to you like you think I was. If anyone have help anybody on this forum it would be me. The answer I gave to you was based on the general theme of the thread. It was not directed to you personaly and if I came across that way them I'm sorry and appologise to you for being a complete idiot/asshole/shitface.
I would also hope by now after reading countless threads on the subject of apex seals that the size does not matter.:)
Actually it's engine builder/tuner preferences. If anything the brand of seals do play a part also but again that also is dependant on preferences. If anything the latest choices in apex seals do offer some more reliability when running at those extreme operating levels.
Some brands that have made a major impact on the industry as of late would be NRS, PTS and SCR apex seals.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/nrsrotorsports/index.html

http://www.performancetestedseals.com/

http://www.southcoastrotary.com.au/scrseals.htm


crispeed 10-04-06 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
Now I feel like an asshole for my response. I'm just grouchy because I hurt another motor and spent the past few days working on the car again and didn't have it ready for the last NHRA event and had to sit there and watch everyone else race.
Anthony

I know the feeling.

crispeed 10-04-06 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
Holy F@$K that was bad ass!!! One hell of a pass!!!

Lazcano was really expressing his joy for winning that one. :)

ROTARYROCKET7 10-04-06 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
dude im starting to think that you have something personal against me...whatever it is im sure we can handle it via the PM box...

are u an idiot? what u just said makes no sence... people ask prices so they can know how much something cost, and if they dont know how much it cost then how can they afford it?
in the world of drag racing, most drivers talk smack about other cars & their drivers its call bragging rights...it gets worst when ur dominant or ur making more power and its expected so thats why most guys dont let it get to them...they just wait till the next event & try to beat the guy thats been talking shit...
i never said that justin is a bad person or bash him, because i dont know him at that level to say those things...i only repeted what i herd..
how many times ON THIS FORUM has smack been swap around between Abel & the PR racers and non of u guys did shit to stop it or even appoligized to the mentioned parties...u guys only decided to open ur mouths when justin came on here to clearify my comments...
Justin i have nutting against u, and the comments i made didnt start from me, i was only saying what i've herd so dont shoot the messanger...
alot of u fellas on here talk alot of shit & u'll got pussy foot when u saw justin...i cant believe that some of u guy are from NYC, so f'kin sad...
Jay why on earth whould i race u? we're on the same team, playing the same game on the same court... it doesnt make sence... plus if i had to race u it wouldnt be for $$ because i would feel bad talking ur money, u will need it to upgrade that "stock" setup u have...
at the track a few guys was saying that it was Paul who made the tech inspection happen... now is that true? i dont know i wasnt there when it happened so i cant say for sure paul did it...am i wrong for saying what i've herd? i guess im the only person on the rx7club that ever said a "he say"....rumors are just that untill its clarified by the involved parties, and even if they clarify the rumors theres always a posibility that they could be lieing to cover up the "he say"...

sorry if i made any of u ladies cry with my "he say", but dont let me catch u'll starting any "he say" cuz it'll have problems :-D
Justin ur a great competitor and i have all respect for u, please understand that i was only repeting what i herd and it wasnt ment to make u look bad

Mr jay u my friend is an asshole and u help to blow this whole thing out of purportion..but i dont hate u and i have nothing against u...we're from the BX and we both love rotarys so it dont make sence to fight...if u serious about that $$ money race im sure we can make it happen..BTW looking foward to finally meeting u at the bear mtn meet, i'll be walking with the other 1st gen (13b)so maybe we can waiger up there...

I know you both jay and rotarboyz but i dont want to see ya fighting at my meet. Ya can talk and discuss stuff but no need to get into an altercation, ya can debate it set up a race schedule and all that. Ima be there watching =). I can help mediate lol =)


Originally Posted by luiml73
All you guys are from NYC. I've been here for 4 months, and have not seen one rx7... I think I'm going to take a drive to the Bronx tonight....LOL


Yo , i talked to you a while ago. I know you come to nyc from time to time, and last time we couldnt link up cuz i was busy with school. But if your still in NYC hit me up 646.772.0222, i can def link up with you and we can shoot the shit .

BEAR MOUNTAIN MEET is on October 8th 2006 hosted by New York Rotary Association!

www.nyrotary.com


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BACK TO RACING

Those pictures from Julian and Benzo are friggin awesome. I think after reading this post i shoulda stayed interested in NHRA sport compact. I kinda got out of it cuz i had no 1 to talk with, but now i see that this is gonna be a great series to follow! Count me in Josi and Anthony!


Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
I tried to edit my above post but the time expired....this is what I meant to say...

Actually yes, I would like to know how that is done. I'm sure everyone on the drag racing section would want to know. That's why everyone is here. The question is would you share that info? I really did not care if the seals were 2mm or 3mm but I figured if I could not get a straight answer to that, why bother asking what seals are they actually using? It matters to me and others that are trying to go faster with a rotary. If I'm a guy trying to build my own motors and tune my own car all the help matters. It's too costly to make mistakes when you want to stay in this sport. Also, if you are in this sport and not building your own motors or tuning your own car, its even harder.

The PR guys are successful because they share info and work as a team. I can't say the same for the US. Even your reply is sort of an example of what I mean. It's obvious you know things that can help others but how much of that would you really share? Hopefully in the future the US rotary guys will all help each other and share info and have more rotaries in various classes instead of the new trend of dumping the rotary engine for an LS1.

Anthony


Anthony i say your correct, we should all work together to make the competition between USA and PR even better. Maybe that may even the odds during Pan AM nationals lol



Jason NYC
NYRA President

gerbraldy 10-04-06 07:59 AM

that video on the first page was the biggest freakin tease ever, I have goddam blueballs because of it. They show all those badass KP61's and not a single one takes a run down the track :mad:

ROTARYROCKET7 10-04-06 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by gerbraldy
that video on the first page was the biggest freakin tease ever, I have goddam blueballs because of it. They show all those badass KP61's and not a single one takes a run down the track :mad:

yeah that video was a giant TEASE. I can't beleive i missed the event. For some reason i was thinking the last Etown event was at the end of october but it was CALI bud.

Next year ill be at the events and following the new season of NHRA sport compact

Jason NYC

13B-RX3 10-04-06 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by crispeed
No Secret.
Just a proven combination that they all have been running from day one that has been tweaked and refined to what it's at now.
Everything under the hood of just every one of them you can buy at a speed shop. There's actually notting that's custom made one of a kind and trust me when I tell you that. :)



http://bullseyepower.com/

http://www.superiorairflow.com/extreme_velocity.htm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

http://www.eastcoastparts.com/html/throttle_body.html

http://www.eastcoastparts.com/html/f...ery___acc.html

http://www.eastcoastparts.com/html/picture_gallery.html


Hmmmm...I have seen you post most of those links in one thread or another. All i can say is that i guess i am not good at taking "hints".:balls: I stand corrected!!!:owned:

LUPE 10-04-06 11:52 AM

100's of cool pictures here http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/ga...categoryid=719

Jay7 Nyc 10-04-06 12:59 PM

RotaryRocket, I would never bring anything negative to any of your meets. This kid is just always out of line. RotaryBoyz, when your 20b is done PMME a place and spot and we can lock it up for a square off. Until then don't bother wasting my time about running me. You're the one who called me out and who has been talking shit about me when your project is not even near completion. I don't know you never met you nor care to. I don't associate myself with idiots or ignorant people. I hope your 20b project is finished soon, since you think my FD is junk. Put your money where your mouth is end of story. Do not PMME until your project is finished.

Now back to the main subject. If you notice when you do get to see a glimpse of the PR cars they're using 2nd gen plates with a dizzy. Maybe that plays a key role with the Sakura Ecu they're all using. I believe its all motor prep and lots of hours tuning. You have to remember the tracks in PR are open almost every day and stay open till late into the night. So the PR guys just have ALOT of hours working on their cars at the track tweaking suspension and tuning.

RX794 10-04-06 01:18 PM

Can anyone give some info on this Pro Class Truck I saw pics of with the KILO racing sticker on it?

http://tunerzine.com/coverage/126/images/IMG_5029.jpg
http://tunerzine.com/coverage/126/images/IMG_5230.jpg

precise 10-04-06 02:16 PM

That's Boris Rojas he used to have delirium racing datsun fastest 12a,I think the truck has a 20b hes working with sakura now

RoTaRyBoYz 10-04-06 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by precise
That's Boris Rojas he used to have delirium racing datsun fastest 12a,I think the truck has a 20b hes working with sakura now

this is correct but i think it runs a 13b...boris was the guy that bought the pepe loco datsun and crashed it soon after...i remember him saying that he was going to build an rx8 but i guess he decided on a truck...hes from florida, maybe crispeed could fill us in on his setup..

ShadowSnake 10-04-06 04:22 PM

Videos from Etown
La Atrevida vs Nayeli the 7.3 pass
Jaimy Lee vs Stephanie
Humprheys 7.42
Celica T and T 7.9
Final Moroso Pica vs Efantis
La Sarita 7.45
La Jaimy Lee 7.51
La Nayeli 7.32
Humprheys 7.35 vs Efantis 7.43
Karagiannis 7.67

First Round Eliminations
Pica Vs Efantis
Atrevida vs Jaimy Lee
Anais vs Nayeli
Humprheys vs Sarita

ROTARYROCKET7 10-04-06 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jay7 Nyc
RotaryRocket, I would never bring anything negative to any of your meets. This kid is just always out of line. RotaryBoyz, when your 20b is done PMME a place and spot and we can lock it up for a square off. Until then don't bother wasting my time about running me. You're the one who called me out and who has been talking shit about me when your project is not even near completion. I don't know you never met you nor care to. I don't associate myself with idiots or ignorant people. I hope your 20b project is finished soon, since you think my FD is junk. Put your money where your mouth is end of story. Do not PMME until your project is finished.

Now back to the main subject. If you notice when you do get to see a glimpse of the PR cars they're using 2nd gen plates with a dizzy. Maybe that plays a key role with the Sakura Ecu they're all using. I believe its all motor prep and lots of hours tuning. You have to remember the tracks in PR are open almost every day and stay open till late into the night. So the PR guys just have ALOT of hours working on their cars at the track tweaking suspension and tuning.

Its our meet. The meets are for everyone to enjoy. Hope to see ya all there.

So the PR guys that raced, are they going to enter NHRA and do the entire race series like other teams? or did they just race to show NHRA that these lil PR cars that are not sponsored are top dawg.

kabooski 10-04-06 06:37 PM

Thanks for the vids! awesome

BTW all but one uses MICROTECH :D ECU according to Jon from RXEngineering in Australia
that provides tech support for them......

RoTaRyBoYz 10-04-06 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7
So the PR guys that raced, are they going to enter NHRA and do the entire race series like other teams? or did they just race to show NHRA that these lil PR cars that are not sponsored are top dawg.

Jason the sport has exploded over the past few years and its becomming hard for teams with no sponsers to compete...i herd that it cost as much as $200k per year to campaign a pro RWD car for a full season of NHRA ... im not sure about the cost of a modify class car, because Justin hasnt answered my question yet :-), but im sure its almost as much as a pro car...
team PR tries to keep there racing on the east cost because of the cost but i did see Pica attend the Vagas meet a few mths ago, maybe they had some help for that event...
i've notice that the NHRA is slowing down, because there are only a handful of pro RWD cars and all the other classes besides modify hasnt had any new cars for some time now...people also say that the sport is shifting over to drifting and its taking most of the sponsers with it because thats what the new generation wanna get involve in....
having guys like justin,Paul,bullish, ect was a good thing for rotary, because if we didnt have that level of competition then we probably wouldnt have the zeal & desire to make more power with our little rotaries to compete with these guys... our guys US & PR never accepted defeat and they've step up R&D since those 6cylinders starting breaking records and as the piston guys get quicker so will the rotaries...

pay 785 10-04-06 08:34 PM

check these vids I found on Rabule piston vs rotor site.

All onboard vids with the Pica Rx7.

http://68.178.140.70/videos/06-10-01-001.wmv

http://68.178.140.70/videos/06-10-01-002.wmv

http://68.178.140.70/videos/06-10-01-003.wmv

http://68.178.140.70/videos/06-10-01-004.wmv

http://68.178.140.70/videos/06-10-01-005.wmv

RX794 10-05-06 12:46 AM

5 Attachment(s)
More pics from Sunday, these were taken by "ye one who boosts and seven"

First round race btwn Jorge Lazcano(Pica Racing) and Paul Efantis:
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=199624&stc=1

A new Pro RWD class 3rotor being certified by the NHRA at the track:
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=199625&stc=1
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=199626&stc=1
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=199627&stc=1
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=199628&stc=1

RX794 10-05-06 12:50 AM

3 Attachment(s)
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=199629&stc=1
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Pica's engine bay shot from far:
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=199631&stc=1

silvr94r2 10-05-06 01:10 AM

How exciting!! A new rotary Pro RWD?? COOL!!

Thanks for the engine shots RX794.....perfect. That's what i like to see! You get to see what the big boys are running.

It looks as though Pica's running a GT4780 or larger. NICE!! I tried to fit one on my car but we couldn't do it without cutting or moving a bunch of stuff. He doesn't have the water neck which helps a bunch in the space department.


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