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crispeed 06-11-06 07:40 PM

** Dee Wins Again**
 
Today at Bandimere Speedway in Denver.
Final round results for modified.

W/L Driver RT ET Speed

(W) Dee Karagiannis ('95 RX7) 0.094 7.934 165.54
(L) Paul Efantis ('03 Solara) 0.118 8.206 170.00

Congrats Dee! Stacking up on those Wallys.

LUPE 06-11-06 07:52 PM

No doubt, I'd like to know the air conditions there today. Looks like it sucked.

Looked like Schechter was having some problems, I wonder what they were.

RX794 06-12-06 12:44 AM

That's great news, it'll give Dee more of a points cushion between him and Justin. Congrats to Dee, Russ, and the rest of the Reactive/PCS team!

silvr94r2 06-12-06 03:12 AM

Congrats Dee!!! Glad to see you beat Paul!!

AnthonyNYC 06-12-06 04:38 AM

Congrats to Dee and the Reactive Team!

You did say you had a good feeling about the event, glad it turned out the way it did. You guys deserve it for all your hard work and dedication.

Anthony

prrex4ever 06-12-06 05:35 AM

Awesome! This looks like the year of the rotaries. Congrats, well earned.

KNONFS 06-12-06 06:24 AM

Congrats DEE! :)

GoodfellaFD3S 06-12-06 07:06 AM

Good shit :bigthumb:

ported13b 06-12-06 11:53 AM

I was there for that race it was a good one so close i could barely watch Dan with the jigsaw RX-7 came down as well put on a great show made to finals and broke at the line he did beat the number one qualifying supra though karl martin came through as well and won the quick 16 class it was a good day for the rotary Dan was the only one i really got a chance to talk to which i was pretty excited about because it was his car in the sport compact mag that brought me into the rotary world it was a good day

7 freak 06-12-06 01:05 PM

congrats dee! keep the good work!

LUPE 06-12-06 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by ported13b
I was there for that race it was a good one so close i could barely watch Dan with the jigsaw RX-7 came down as well put on a great show made to finals and broke at the line he did beat the number one qualifying supra though karl martin came through as well and won the quick 16 class it was a good day for the rotary Dan was the only one i really got a chance to talk to which i was pretty excited about because it was his car in the sport compact mag that brought me into the rotary world it was a good day

Why wasn't Karl competing? What times was he running?

What happened to Dan? Why did he break?

Nuvolari 06-12-06 03:01 PM

Congrats Dee, thats about as fast as a two rotor can go. I wonder if he will go three rotor next season ??

crispeed 06-12-06 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nuvolari
Congrats Dee, thats about as fast as a two rotor can go. I wonder if he will go three rotor next season ??


Dee has been 7.60 many times before and the other rx7 in the class from PR, 'PICA RACING' driven by George Lazcano who has the class record at 7.49@181mph was not competing this weekend. That same car has ran as quick as 7.40 and as fast as 185mph in PR.
The main reason why everyone's performance were off this weekend was due to the altitude. The cars in the 'ALL MOTOR' class suffered the worst. Their times were off by over a second.

crispeed 06-12-06 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by LUPE
Why wasn't Karl competing? What times was he running?

What happened to Dan? Why did he break?

He did compete and made it to the finals. He took out Ryan Woon in the semi's before facing Cody Phillips in the finals. Ryan broke his turbo and Dan broke something in the finals.

W/L Driver RT ET Speed

(W) Cody Phillips (Supra) 0.324 9.787 146.23
(L) Dan Schechter ('93 RX7) 0.304 NT-Broke After Staging

LUPE 06-12-06 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by crispeed
He did compete and made it to the finals. He took out Ryan Woon in the semi's before facing Cody Phillips in the finals. Ryan broke his turbo and Dan broke something in the finals.

W/L Driver RT ET Speed

(W) Cody Phillips (Supra) 0.324 9.787 146.23
(L) Dan Schechter ('93 RX7) 0.304 NT-Broke After Staging

I was asking, why wasn't Karl Martin competing? :)

I think he's got a 9 fifty car, just wondering why I didn't his stats anywhere......

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Was also curious as to what broke on Dans car..........

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Also, congrats to Scheepers for not breaking!!!!!!!! Looks like he figured out why his motors keep breaking!

crispeed 06-12-06 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by LUPE
I was asking, why wasn't Karl Martin competing? :)

OPPS! :)
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Also, congrats to Scheepers for not breaking!!!!!!!! Looks like he figured out why his motors keep breaking!

Let's hope he did. He's been having ignition issues for some time at least that what's he claims.

MichaelB145 06-13-06 12:24 AM

Carl Martin could not enter SRWD since he has a water to air Intercooler. That's why he ran Quick 16 which is the fastest Bracket racers.

It was cool to hang out with Dee, Quinn, Dan, Carl, and the other guys (sorry don't remember everyone)


Even though I destroyed my 3rd gear syncro....I somehow took 3rd in SRWD right behind Dan. LOL It helped I qualified with a 11.6 and got a paired up with a slower car!

MichaelB145 06-13-06 12:25 AM

http://media.putfile.com/nhra4

Here's a video of that run......Too bad Dan broke as it would have been cool to have a video of Rotary vs Rotary (Him kicking my ass!)

AnthonyNYC 06-13-06 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by LUPE
Also, congrats to Scheepers for not breaking!!!!!!!! Looks like he figured out why his motors keep breaking!

Lupe,

Ken switched the Ecu's in his car. He used to run a Microtech but is now using an Electromotive TEC3. This was the first event with the TEC3 in the car.

Glad to see he did well. If he did not red light, he would have won since I believe Paul had some issues with his car on that run.

Also, from the NHRA website....

Karagiannis, from Glenwood, Md., was able to wipe the bridesmaid label off his 2006 plate by collecting his second career win with his Mazda RX7. He had been the runner-up in the last two races and finally won by defeating Paul Efantis and his Toyota Solara. Karagiannis drove to the win in 7.93 seconds at 165.54 mph. Efantis came on fast at the end, but wasn’t able to catch the quicker Karagiannis

“The third time’s a charm,” said Karagiannis. “Consistency is what wins the race. What we lack in money is made up for in dedication. We were here until 3:00 in the morning last night trying to get things right. Those late nights pay off. I want to thank Powertrain Control Solutions. They are the reason we are here.”



Anthony

MichaelB145 06-14-06 02:11 AM

Here's a pretty cool article about the race...

http://www.urbanracer.com/articles/a...asp?a=2052&z=1

LUPE 06-14-06 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by MichaelB145
Here's a pretty cool article about the race...

http://www.urbanracer.com/articles/a...asp?a=2052&z=1

So, did Dan break axles or transmissions?

MichaelB145 06-14-06 12:44 PM

He blew his 2nd Tranny during the weekend.....He said he wasn't sure if the tranny would hold up since it wasn't in great shape.

LUPE 06-14-06 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by MichaelB145
He blew his 2nd Tranny during the weekend.....He said he wasn't sure if the tranny would hold up since it wasn't in great shape.

Alright, I wasn't sure. The write up on urban said that he broke axles.

MichaelB145 06-14-06 02:33 PM

Maybe he was wrong and found out later that he broke his axels? I would think the tranny would go before his chromoly axels.

LUPE 06-14-06 02:37 PM

Well, I'm sure we'll hear from Dan.

I thought you had actually talked to him about it........

MichaelB145 06-14-06 02:46 PM

I only talked to him 2 minutes after he broke so I guess a lot could change once he tears into it.

rotor_dee 06-14-06 09:28 PM

Thank you for all the support. We are trying very hard and hope we can continue to improve.

For the record the elevation on our weather station showed 9500ft above sea level, this is why everyone slowed up. But the track was awesome and the scenery was great :) Congrats to Ken , Dan , Karl and all the other rotary racers that made the trek.

Dee

MichaelB145 06-15-06 11:06 AM

9500ft? Holy crap.......and I thought dealing with 5280ft was bad!

Dan Schechter 06-17-06 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by LUPE
Looked like Schechter was having some problems, I wonder what they were.

Saturday I had trouble with 2-step, clutch switch, and other issues at the beginning. And sheared the output shaft on launch in qualifying. Luckily the car broke the beams and I qualified #8. I had a used trans in the trailer and swapped it out Saturday evening. Sunday morning, I finally got 2-step to semi-work, and went out for the first elim pass. The talon double bulbed me, so I didn't get enough time to get boost up on launch, and I had a huge vibration at top end. The vibration turned out to be a bent rear wheel, and boost had dropped off 4lbs from Dallas to Denver. Also, my computer shut off on launch, so I could't datalog that run. With no time to get the comuter up and running, I turned up the boost and made some other changes to race Ryan. For round 2, I treed Ryan and got lucky that he had some problems with the turbo, but the bent wheel was shaking my car to pieces, and the trans had some issues. For the final round, I borrowed a set of wheels from a fellow racer, Micheal Bergren, and was confident that the car was ready to run a great run. I got on 2-step on time, and treed the Supra just like the last, but sheared the output shaft on launch again on the other transmission. It sucks because I feel real confident we would have beat him. Oh well...It seems that the stock tranny just isn't holding up anymore, not even for a short time.:dunno: I guess I can't complain about second place considering where we stood at Sat afternoon.

Sorry for the delay in response, been unloading the cars and working. Plans are in the making for trans...gotta fit in my budget.

Congrats again to D, Rus and everyone else involved with Reactive. And Ken for not breaking any motors anymore! The drives home should be more pleasant from now on...haha...just kidding Ken.

MichaelB145 06-17-06 02:16 AM

Yea....at least I figured out that I'm not heating up the slicks enough after I saw what they looked like after you used them! LOL

I now have the line lock fixed so we will see what kind of 60 ft times are possible on my car!


Good to hang out with all you guys with Reactive Racing.....I'm glad fame has not gone to your head!

LUPE 06-17-06 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Dan Schechter
Saturday I had trouble with 2-step, clutch switch, and other issues at the beginning. And sheared the output shaft on launch in qualifying. Luckily the car broke the beams and I qualified #8. I had a used trans in the trailer and swapped it out Saturday evening. Sunday morning, I finally got 2-step to semi-work, and went out for the first elim pass. The talon double bulbed me, so I didn't get enough time to get boost up on launch, and I had a huge vibration at top end. The vibration turned out to be a bent rear wheel, and boost had dropped off 4lbs from Dallas to Denver. Also, my computer shut off on launch, so I could't datalog that run. With no time to get the comuter up and running, I turned up the boost and made some other changes to race Ryan. For round 2, I treed Ryan and got lucky that he had some problems with the turbo, but the bent wheel was shaking my car to pieces, and the trans had some issues. For the final round, I borrowed a set of wheels from a fellow racer, Micheal Bergren, and was confident that the car was ready to run a great run. I got on 2-step on time, and treed the Supra just like the last, but sheared the output shaft on launch again on the other transmission. It sucks because I feel real confident we would have beat him. Oh well...It seems that the stock tranny just isn't holding up anymore, not even for a short time.:dunno: I guess I can't complain about second place considering where we stood at Sat afternoon.

Sorry for the delay in response, been unloading the cars and working. Plans are in the making for trans...gotta fit in my budget.

Congrats again to D, Rus and everyone else involved with Reactive. And Ken for not breaking any motors anymore! The drives home should be more pleasant from now on...haha...just kidding Ken.

Have you thought about transmission options? Damn, you've got me worried now. I was hoping for 2-3 good passes just to see where I was at before worrying about the trans.

Are you making anymore power now than before? I saw that you put in a new motor, thought you might have turned the boost up more...?

MichaelB145 06-17-06 03:28 PM

Yea....got me worried and I'm running a couple hundred hp less than you guys.....I figured while I had to pull the tranny out to replace the 3rd gear syncro.....I might as well explore my options to build it a little more.

LUPE 06-17-06 10:05 PM

Dan, been thinking and wondering about something.

Back when you were running bottom tens last year, you were 60 footing 1.3xx's right?

Aren't you still 60 footing 1.3XX's right now?

Well, you're breaking transmissions on the launch correct? Well, what's different about your launch now than before since you're short times are the same?

I don't get it.......

Dan Schechter 06-18-06 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by MichaelB145
Yea....at least I figured out that I'm not heating up the slicks enough after I saw what they looked like after you used them! LOL

I now have the line lock fixed so we will see what kind of 60 ft times are possible on my car!


Good to hang out with all you guys with Reactive Racing.....I'm glad fame has not gone to your head!

Sorry about that. :pat: LOL.....They say you want tire temps around 180deg F optimal. I hope the linelock helps you. Let me know how things go with it. You got some good launch shots from last weekend, have you seen them? Thanks again for the tires. :worship:

Dan Schechter 06-18-06 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by LUPE
Have you thought about transmission options? Damn, you've got me worried now. I was hoping for 2-3 good passes just to see where I was at before worrying about the trans.

Are you making anymore power now than before? I saw that you put in a new motor, thought you might have turned the boost up more...?

Only 10hp at the wheels. I think the other tranny was just getting close to snapping as well, it just so happens that it was in the same weekend. It will probably last a few runs, but one tranny per every few runs is way out of the question! You can probably get 2-3 passes. We did turn up the boost to 38psi. But I'm not leaving the line with any more boost than before, matter of fact in Denver, I left with less boost because of the air up there! I have been looking into options, in fact my cluster is at Liberty right now, to get some pro-shift rings fabricated, but you never know how long that is going to take, it's been there for 3 months. Cryo-treating is the lower budget answer. But new parts are $$! An automatic that can hold up is the long term answer, I've been talking with Russ from Dee's team about some options. Also, there are some in-betweens, but they still involve breaking trannies, just knowing when they are going to go. Any way I go, budget and time plays into it, which is what makes it so hard to fix.

Dan Schechter 06-18-06 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by LUPE
Dan, been thinking and wondering about something.

Back when you were running bottom tens last year, you were 60 footing 1.3xx's right?

Aren't you still 60 footing 1.3XX's right now?

Well, you're breaking transmissions on the launch correct? Well, what's different about your launch now than before since you're short times are the same?

I don't get it.......

I was making around 75 less hp. The difference is torque. I just can't keep up with Mark, Julie, or the Supras on 540whp. I'm not sure if I can catch them even with a strong tranny, however I can be there to take them down when they f*^% up. My 60fts are all over right now because parts are breaking so often, and 2step isn't consistent anymore. Tire pressure plays into it as well as launch Rpm, suspension and boost.

MichaelB145 06-18-06 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Schechter
Sorry about that. :pat: LOL.....They say you want tire temps around 180deg F optimal. I hope the linelock helps you. Let me know how things go with it. You got some good launch shots from last weekend, have you seen them? Thanks again for the tires. :worship:

What sites are you talking about? I think the car looks better launching with the stock suspension like in my avatar when the car was red. Now the front end doesn't lift up as much.

Dan Schechter 06-19-06 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by MichaelB145
What sites are you talking about? I think the car looks better launching with the stock suspension like in my avatar when the car was red. Now the front end doesn't lift up as much.

No, your front end doesn't come up as much. However, that's a good thing. Modified.com and Urbanracer.com have some good pics. The car looks like its coming out of the hole pretty good.

LUPE 06-19-06 05:11 PM

I tested out my 2 step today at 20psi and guess what................. stupid trans exploded!

showoff 06-19-06 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by LUPE
I tested out my 2 step today at 20psi and guess what................. stupid trans exploded!

u kno not 2 wish bad things on u but i was either anticipating a new thread with you sayin u yanked the wheels up, or a thread sayin the trans exploaded.. sorry 2 hear it had 2 be the trans...

-dj

LUPE 06-19-06 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by showoff
u kno not 2 wish bad things on u but i was either anticipating a new thread with you sayin u yanked the wheels up, or a thread sayin the trans exploaded.. sorry 2 hear it had 2 be the trans...

-dj

that's okay.......... I'm in the works on gettig a new one right now. Waiting on the person to call me back....

crispeed 06-19-06 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by LUPE
I tested out my 2 step today at 20psi and guess what................. stupid trans exploded!

What broke? Was this at the track?

LUPE 06-19-06 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by crispeed
What broke? Was this at the track?

No, it actually happened on the street........ I warmed the tires up and tried launching it, something let go but not sure what. The only gear I could get it in is 2nd gear and now it won't come out. I was able to slowly drive it home but it sounded like someone poured a box of bolts inside my transmission. It sounded like hell was breaking loose on the way home.

I've got another trans coming to me early next week so, oh well.

I would do the automatic right now but I don't want the down time. I want to get out to the track. :) :dragster:

MichaelB145 06-20-06 11:40 AM

Something very similar happened to me but it wasn't the tranny....I broke off several teeth on the gears and I was able to limp it home but it sounded just like what you described.

crispeed 06-20-06 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=Dan Schechter] Cryo-treating is the lower budget answer.]

Dan
Cyro-treating did not help me. You've reach the mechanical limits. :)
What clutch/flywheel set up are you running?
There are a couple of options available presently that can help the situation.

MichaelB145 06-20-06 02:22 PM

Damn...I thought Cryo-treating would be the answer......What else can you do to stay in SRWD? I have the ACT 6 puck Extreme Unsprung with a stock flywheel. What other options are you talking about?

kabooski 06-21-06 07:55 PM

A)I find it very odd that Ken switched ECUs
since MicroTech is one of his sponsers
and the car was tuned by CFT...

b) Easy Street WRX runs a hybrid stock built automatic
MArk with the 240 is looking into a nissan 300Z automatic aswell in the future

why Ari or anyone else in the USA
has YET! to try a perfectly NHRA SRWD legal Mazda "Jatco" tranny
found in either a 3 speed early 79-83 or Turbo II automatics
which are imported here like crazy and mostly thrown away..

http://www.keas.com.au/products.htm

To help with take off with a auto
a Nice shot of N20 does the trick
as evidence by the boostlogic supra that takes off harder then any supra TH400/PG outthere 1.3 60's including Titans cause unlike any other it uses N20 as a launch tool
http://media.putfile.com/boostlogic

Here is a R100 using a Mazda Jatco auto
no n20

best time is now 9.07 1/4
http://media.putfile.com/r100-auto

LUPE 06-21-06 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by kabooski
Here is a R100 using a Mazda Jatco auto
no n20

best time is now 9.07 1/4
http://media.putfile.com/r100-auto

I would love to run a jatco transmission but those are supposed to break with anything over 500 rear wheel torque. (From what I hear)

Also, those older mazda are alot lighter than our FD's.

kabooski 06-21-06 08:51 PM

Jatco's also where used on commodore's
about the size of a taurus/sable V8
and people use then in twin turbo applications

I'm only recommending someone try out these auto
that want to compete in NHRA street class
like Ari, Dan, Ernie, Karl etc

If I had the scratch
I would build a 85 GSL-SE
with stock rear end using the Guru
36 spline shafts(strange also makes axles) , Guru oversized LSD
and matching Hubs and there would be no limit on gear ratios.
A Jatco 3 speed auto
13B RE Bridge
GT42-76
100 shot of N20 off the line

100% SRWD legal :D


low low 9's all day

Dan Schechter 06-21-06 10:00 PM

I have heard that if you cryo-treat new parts before the metal gets stressed, it isn't the solution, however it possibly helps extend the life. But it doesn't seem to do any good on used parts since they have already been stressed. Don't quote me on this, it's just an observation.
I am using a stock flywheel, act clutch with a 6 puck hub. I think I am going to try to spin the wheels a little more off the line with 16s (instead of 15s), and a softer suspension to bite less. I would love to get your opinion on options. Thanks for your input.

[QUOTE=crispeed]

Originally Posted by Dan Schechter
Cryo-treating is the lower budget answer.]

Dan
Cyro-treating did not help me. You've reach the mechanical limits. :)
What clutch/flywheel set up are you running?
There are a couple of options available presently that can help the situation.



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