:rlaugh:

Hehe.. kinda' like my buddies..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...ckonblack2.jpg

that about sums it up

thanks man:icon_tup:

thats what pissed me off the most...him saying i sprayed him, and him changing his stories constantly, so i decided to own his ass on this forum.

I have been wanting to line up with one of these but no luck so far.

I have to say I have never been a vette fan until these came along, very nice!

Holy shit, EXACTLY like that, except the brake calipers werent red, idk i wasnt really looking at the brakes lol.

But yeah exactly like that but with dark ass tints, prob 5%.

I wanted to fucking murder the owner haha

To be perfectly honest with you, and i will prob get hated more lol, thats how most FD owners are.

If they win, they tell the whole world to celebrate. If they lose, they come up with every single excuse in the world to favor themselves to act like their car wasnt running 100% that race.

They'll be like, "yeah i forgot to brake boost, then all of a sudden i got ignition breakup at 6200rpm but picked up at 6300rpm".

"Damn my tires are too thin, maybe thats why i spun a little and lost"

"Im ONLY on 12lbs, im sure with 16lbs, ill whip his ass".

LOL Its all coulda woulda shoulda. Well the video and your posts put those excuses back in the closet.

Agreed most fd owners are like that, but a good 50% of the time there is actually something wrong with the car, but hey run what you brung.

^^Dont worry, i didnt mean you lol. I know something was really wrong with your car, i saw your thread.

But im saying from what i seen the past almost 5 years of being on this forum. Theres always an excuse as to why they lost. Cant just say, "damn that other car was quick, ill be back next time with more power".

They either make up an excuse or downsize the other car, criticizing it to make them feel better.

Its disgusting.

so true, and I think it's partially to do with the ridiculous amounts of money some have dumped into their setups. It stings that much worse when some stock vette burns them, that they HAVE to justify it somehow.

You hear those smae lame excuses from all kind of car owners, whether you're on the internet, street or track.

that stock plastic bucket of a car cost 75 gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg's

no its a sick car just joking around. still though that isnt cheap. in the end i would take a $30k 500 rwhp fd any day though. if i was gonna spend 75k i would get a 911 and dump 20k in mods on it. i just cant see spending 75k on any car. maybe one day when i am done with everything else i want to do ie 5k sq ft home, time share, etc...thats when i will waste money on a big dollar car. it doesnt make sense to me for anyone to spend that kind of money on a car unless the others are accomplished first. and i dont mean a 1k sq ft appt or living with mommy and daddy. i guess priority changes when your the father to a couple of kids.

Spend some time around these Z06's and you'll see they are no joke. The fact that they're that fast stock, come with a warranty, and are reliable, also is something to like.

I'd like to see a 500hp FD that would last 200k+ miles.

i hear ya on the reliability factor. i guess u are right.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not hating on the FD. It's EASILY one of the best looking cars EVER made in my opinion. And you can rev the rotary to the moon, unlike most other engines. It just doesn't hold together near as well long-term. :sadwavey:

i like the fd cause it feels so damn racey. the feedback is simple amazing, the engine lovs to rev and is silky smooth no matter the rpm, and the handling feels like its on rails. i love it and probably will never sell it. i havent driven/been in car that has the same feel. i am sure the z06 probably would out handle it...a porsche too. but in terms of "feel" and fun, i just havent found a car that out does my fd and beleive me i have been in or driven the worlds best cars. i would guess that the elise is pretty close as is a S2000. thats my cup of tea...fun factor aka shifter cart. now comfort thats whole another converstion.....the fd is purpose built...screw comfort. that would be a compromise.

LOL The more money dumped, the worse the butthurt gets lol.

And this thread proves it. DP has spent ALOT of money on his FD in the past. Yes i been here long enough to remember everything he did to his car.

And to say a STOCK z06, with intake DEMOLISHED him off a highway roll sorta made him a bit dissappointed so he had to make some excuse to make it seem like his car wasnt performing 100% and thats why the beating he took.

wtf? no lies I ran he spinned and I got ahead. we ran again and before I spooled he left me. a loss is a loss. no lies I ran him on 14 lbs on this race and ran again on 17lbs (not on video) and it as a lot closer but when we dynoed @ 17lbs I only did 448 which was the same dyno where he did 487. I lost end of story.

wat?

on a completely different note I love how everyone talks about how rotaries only last like 70 thousand miles and crap, am I the only person on the face of the planet that wouldn't care if I had to rebuild my motor ever 5 years??? Had to do it to my Turbo II, my friends S5 NA, and soon probably my FD. But who cares dammit if you make power shit breaks, and if rebuilding something that breaks or goes bad is to expensive or hard for you don't mod or buy a fast car. You want 200 thousand miles drive a damn accord and leave the fast cars to people who get their hands dirty fixing shit!!!!:sadwavey:

also some one pm me the day a c6 zo6 breaks 200 thousand miles and tell me nothing went wrong with that motor!:wallbash:

^Yeah, but with the 'Vette you can have the best of both worlds!

1st the vid tells the trugh

2nd i lost & so what a loss is a loss

3rd doesnt matter what anyone says (goddfella, adam, marshall) if you want drama so be it but im not going to keep repeating myself

4th me & the z06 are good friends & i race him practically once a week every time to the meets just this time i wanted it on video no matter the outcome.

so 1QWIK7 you have an autobiography of my whole life huh? so how much hp amd i pushing? how much did i spend? go & search & lets see if you can find it

I cant have an autobiography about your life. An autobiography is a story about a person told BY the person. And im not you thank god so thats impossible.

Im not gonna search every thread but a simple thread ONLY search under your name shows a couple of what you did and how much you spent.

And i remember those days where you had the unpainted bumper remember? You had the only car with an unpainted bumper and it stuck out like a sore thumb. LOL yeah that was a long time ago but i remembered.

Considering there are guys with over 300k miles on their 98-99 C5's, I'd say it's damn possible. I've got 113k miles on my supercharged C5. There's a guy on the CF site that has over 40k on his 07' Z06 so far no problems. Oh yeah, and he's had the car since March.

These motors are bulletproof.

And why would you want to rebuild a motor every couple of years, when you can have one keep running and running and running, and use the $ on tires and brakes instead? Doesn't make any sense to me. :rlaugh:

dude, maybe a "hey White-Z, sorry for lying and claiming you sprayed me with a 100 shot....I was a little frustrated at the way my car performed and took it too far, hopefully we can line up again once I get everything sorted out"

instead of "wtf, no lies" and making yourself and the rotary community look like a bunch of excuse making ricers.

Exactly.

People at track events worry about their tires and brakes. We're the only ones to worry about, "shit what about my engine?" LOL

1)he said he made 460 only

2) u said to ignore the first page cause it was all lies

3) appologize and move on. there is no saving yourself now.

ok what it boils down to is cranking horse power out of a motor, would a 2000+ rwhp zo6 last 70 thousand miles? or could it ever be done? lets see 72 hp per liter doesn't sound impressive to me, so maybe the motor isn't being worked hard enough. granted I guess engine size doens't really matter cause the ls7 is just about as light as the 13b rew but I give props to a motor that can make 450 rwhp with its 1.3 wankel wonder ( which = 346.15 per liter:icon_tup: )

end note racing motors get rebuilt cause they are pushed to the limit much like a tiny 1.3 making 255 stock.

and sorry for the post jacking
funny thing is I am just posting this crap cause I get tired of people bitching about engine life, don't like it get a different car, and if you already don't own one then go hug you recipicating motor and laugh at how rotaries blow ever other time they start!:shocking:

jeez matty, get it right, he made 498 in this thread https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/question-about-dynos-709999/

;)

personally I would get pissed if a honda (S2000, Integra type R, and even the Civic Si Vtec...including its retarded brother the Del Slow) made more hp per liter stock then I did.

sorry i havent done as much due diligence as you have. with all the lies int nhis thread its hard to keep track wtf is going on.

ii thought he made 460....as seen below. if he did more mods since that dyno pull so be it.

like i said so much bs;ing in here i am sure u can see where my confusion comes from....see below:

Who cares how much hp/liter you make? Why is that the end all of arguments? Why would you rather have a motor that has to work it's ASS off for power, vs one that doesn't? Especially when longevity says the harder you work, the sooner you break down?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0oFsrLgegiU

These guys do this practically every weekend without engine failure, nor have to worry about over-heating. How many of us can keep our rides running cool as hell when racing for 30 minutes or more with alot of redline in there? Even my boosted C5 gets hotter than shit with the supercharger putting out heat. :shocking:

your points are all good, and to each their own I don;t wanna start a war, I just believe in the old saying give it a 110% , and I hope I never have to race a zo6...might hurt my pride.

Exactly.

Preach on my brotha :)

I've only got one chance against the new Z06. And that's if he doesn't get the jump on me. If I can jump him, even for a split second, I can stay with him. And I'm pulling 40rwhp more than him. Those things are mad fast, and I know 7 guys who have them(one has over 500rwhp with just intake, headers and tune). That's one car I know would put me in my place. Especially on the track. :scared:

im getting the map redone next wednesday so look for a video next week!

my afr's are in the high 9's

I thought this section was about races not h.p. per liter. Stay on task gentlemen..:)

No offense, but the LS7 is hardly bulletproof. There are pretty large numbers of ZO6 buyers that had their motors take a dump on them (and they were not tracked). Go to the CF & run a search - they have had a large number of engine failures. I was actually looking into a new Z & have since opted to steer clear.

All this talk about rotary engine rebuilds is overblown. If half the people on this forum did proper reliability mods to accompany their power mods they would stop blowing their engines (it has nothing to do with power & everything to do with keeping the engine cool & not starving it if fuel). So many owners start moding their FDs & don't get bigger injectors, fuel pumps, more efficient IC's & radiatiors, no silicone hose replacement, nor properly TUNE their FDs. It's no wonder when their rotary blows it's from one of the above factors (and they are always clueless, "what happened").

I had 127k miles on my modded Turbo II when sold (motor was still OK) & have ~ 40k on my modded/ported FD engine - zero issues - runs like a champ (on & off the track). It may take some up front investment/knowledge on "how" to properly mod & tune an FD for power AND reliability but that is what must be done if you want to maintain your FD properly. Once the reliability mods are done, it's no different than any piston motor - you just need to "fix" the Mazda design shortcomings with better cooling/silicon turbo hose replacement & a proper tune if power modding. My 2 cents ;o)

-Matt

/\ Dont Forget The Rear End & Clutch Is Not That Great As Well!

Rear end, only if you're launching the car. The stock torsen lsd is fine.

race again and record it...................

turn up the boost for fuck sakes!!!! What turbo are you running?

AAMEN!!!

This thread cracks me up! :rlaugh:


Anyhow, "darkphantom" you state you're running a T78 single kit, I assume a standard 'Greddy T78' turbo correct??


And just to get this story straight...

** In the 2 roll-on races recorded in the video you posted, what boost were you running?? 17PSI or 14PSI?

** What boost did you dyno the 448RWHP at?

** Were you running straight pump in all the runs or any alky/meth anytime?

Thanks for posting the vid, it takes a man to post a loss.

i dont get how you lost with the amount of hp you have. do you have a big sound system in the back or something? btw you need to brake boost it makes a world of a difference.

One thing not mentioned is the Z has got a great flat torque curve with excellent gearing for top end pulls. That against a peaky small dis. car I'm not surprised he got beat.

Me Vs A Modded C6 Z06
 

dear darkphantom if you are running high 9s in air to fuel ratio you are running the engine too rich you should be in the 11.3 -11.5 air to fuel ratio you are slowing the engine down with too much fuel that is why you got worked by the vette.

I much more of a browser of this site then an avid poster, but Zo6 vettes are extremely fast cars in stock form...

The current COMPLETELY STOCK OFF the showroom floor(including tires) verified fast list:

Bone-Stock on Stock Tires ------*Current Avg. 11.431 secs. @ 124.54 mph 1.83 secs


1----10.981 @ 128.90--1.77---jamie furman ------'06. Details
2----11.138 @ 127.20--1.76---Ranger------'06. Details
3----11.242 @ 122.38--1.68---Dr.Ron------'06. Details
4----11.311 @ 122.89--1.80---BLU-BY-U------'06. Details
5----11.349 @ 124.97--1.75---zosix427-----'06. Details
6----11.450 @ 125.92--1.88---dgdoc------'06. Details
7----11.502 @ 126.08--1.96---C5 Frank-----'06. Details
8----11.545 @ 123.16--1.83---dpracing-----'07 Details
9----11.557 @ 126.68--1.95---Incon306-----'07 Details
10---11.560 @ 124.53--1.85---Zlicious-----'06. Details
11---11.627 @ 121.67--1.83---BLK BZT-----'06 Details
12---11.632 @ 123.43--1.96---Z06kait -----'07 Details
13---11.709 @ 121.41--1.86---JWGJR------'07 Details