C6 Z06 vs Shelby Cobra 427R, no vid
 

I got up this AM and went for a spin in my Superformance Shelby Cobra. I gave up the street racing bit, but I figured people would be out on the 4th of July in their toys and I might enjoy seeing what they're driving.

I spotted a guy with a Ferrari 360 Modena. He was zinging it up with some spirited driving. I just checked it out and enjoyed the shinny black paint and fancy aftermarket wheels. It looked and sounded very cool, but seemed quite slow.

A minute or two later I made a right turn and a Black C6 Z06 drove up behind me. With all the hype on the net I've wanted one of these next to my car for performance evaluation. My car is about 2500 lbs with me in it and 600ish corrected engine HP. I looked over at the Corvette to confirm C6 Z06 intake hole in hood, flared fenders and Z06 badges. He then zipped by me and let off to match my speed. I put it in second gear and we looked at each other. He took off, so I nailed it and smoked by him like he was sitting still. I hit third gear for a maybe a 1 second blip, was about five cars up and shut down. We hit a red light and he looked over and gave me a nice look and wave and I returned the compliment with a nice car and thumbs up. The light turned green and he nailed it again. I did the same, but had to get back the car length he jumped on me. Pretty much I just rolled in, nailed it and roared by given I had my ultra sticky Mickey Thompson ET street radials on my car. I hit second and it made the C6 Z06 look a bit like he had put his car in reverse. I turned off right a mile or so down and got ready to head home. As I sat at a red light amazingly he pulled up to me again and motioned to pull over and talk. We did. He was a cool guy. He and his buddy just bought two of the C6 Z06s, his used with 1500 miles for 85,000. :(

Nice, have you run that beast at the dragstrip yet?

your car is a monster!do you think it can break in the 10s in the 1/4?

with easy launch 1.7 to 1.9 60ft, given density altitude

sea level, low to mid 10s, 133 to 135

4500 ft, very high 10s to very low 11s 125 to 128

Today in Scottsdale the desity altitude came out around 6000 ft this morning with weather conditions calculated on actual elevation. That turns the C6 Z06 into a 13 second club car.

Most of the C6 Z06 data you see on line which displays as impressive is info from desity altitude near or even below sea level. Magazines usually correct their times for sea level zero humidity too.

I saw a c6 z06 here at the track and we have the same "slower than other areas" issue. He ran mid 12's @ less than120mph all day.

wtf did you do to make it that light, cut the car in half? :rlaugh:

It's not a Mustang, but rather a Shelby Cobra.

oh shit, one of THOSE! godamn thats rare as hell

God those are awesome. I would absolutely love to get a kit one day. Great car, man!

that would have been a sweet old vs new battle to see

i assume the shelby is a replica?

I've had the good fortune to ride in a Superformance Shelby Cobra and while the FD is great to drive, it is nothing like a cobra. After having riden in my friends cobra this past April, I honestly cannot understand why anyone would spend 85K on a Z06 corvette when they could drive a cobra.

As for the Superformance being a "replica," technically you could say yes, but my friends has a Ford VIN number and is actually registered as a 1965. Carol Shelby actually endorses the company (Superformance) that manufacturer's the car. As I understand it, the cars are built in Africa, and shipped to the states. It is up to the buyer to decide what power plant they want.

I think the replicas are cooler because they are cheaper, newer parts, and you can actually drive (when i say drive I mean romp on them) them without the crazy paranoia that comes along with driving a very rare car.

Yeah the new ones have no engine, there is a dealer near my house that has about ten of them (new and old) for sale and all the new ones are missing a drivetrain.

This is correct. It's a Superformance, endorsed by Carol Shelby as explained in the post above by technomentor. My glove box was signed by Shelby. He is a cool dude. The Superformance come in as a roller less engine and trans @ 1800 lbs. I have a bored and stroked small block with a TKO 600 trans so you get in there for about 2350 lbs without fuel. Me in the car with a splash of fuel is around 2550lbs.

It's hard to beat a brand new Superformance for quality and originality at about 10% to 15% the price of the original. They are faster, handle better, stop faster and there's no worries of getting a dent if you lean on the car as they're fiberglass. The only thing that sucks is everyone asks, "Is it real," because it looks so authentic.

I would like some day to get together a group of guys with assorted cars for video action.

how much $ do those kit cars usually run? if you dont mind me asking

You could go into a Superformance Dealer and order a car with Roush 427R for around 70,000, or you could figure out ways to save on the car by installing you own engine and trans. You could buy used also.

http://www.superformance.com

http://www.roushperf.com/engines.shtml

http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/products/TKO.asp

http://www.olthoff-racing.com/Line.htm

sounds pretty good, but i thought maybe abit faster than that. i believe my buddies 82 camaro is making somewhere near 750- 800hp on his 496 big block but the car weighs about 3400lbs with him in it. 1000 lbs heavier than yours but 150-200hp more. he went 10.0 at 133-135 but the motor wasnt quite tunned great yet. still doing 1.40-1.45 60 foots. some were 1.39. we are at like 1200feet with a DA of 3000 in the warmer days i think.

your power to weight is abit better than his.

i think at sealevel in great conditions you could see low 10s at 136-138 with decent launch.. if you cut good 60s then possible high 9's. hard to say tho. 100shot would definately be nice for 9's

Your buddies car might be a touch quicker than my Cobra. By the time the engine HP goes through the restrictive Cobra side pipes with old school collectors it looses top end HP. Figure around 450 to the wheels for a load bearing dyno like a Dynodynamics.(not Dynojet) The tourque is higher and very wide. For a street car it's quick, but there's always a faster guy out there. A sea level pass in the Cobra would be a low to mid 10 in with hard launch, but no biggie by drag racer standards.

Here's a pass on a day of density altitude of 4500 ft. My third gear synchromesh was gone, so don't laugh at my 2 to 3 shift. I launch a touch over idle. The Mercedes is a V12 twin turbo with RENNTech stuff putting it around 725 HP and 900 something ft/lbs. It's a guy I know that has a pile of exotic modified cars. For the pass in the video the Mercedes knocked off a 1.5 60ft, so I had to catch up with my asleep at the tree launch and 1.8 60ft. I had a low 11 @ 126 mph or so. Remember it's a DA of 4500 ft. I don't think I'd want to launch the car hard at the strip and break things for a better time. It's easier and less expensive to just subtract a couple tenths from the idle launch of 1.8 60ft knowing a hard launch of a 1.4xx is possible.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=shelby+cobra

There are a bunch of other videos in the link with assorted modified exotics. The times put the challenging density altitutude day into perspective.

Do you do any mountain driving with that? That looks like it would be damn good fun here in Boulder. Though the 600hp would make it 10x more scary.

cars a beast man! sounds good. either way lower 10's capable on good launch is very impressive

Awesome car and even better kill. I would have loved to see a vid.

Awesome race. I have ran my Pop's Factory 5 Cobra a few times. The power to weight is just amazing. I've killed a STI Impreza, a supercharged Bullit Mustang, and a C5 Z06 with it. The car is just amazing to drive and the looks that people give it make it worth every dollar spent. I want the superformance Daytona Coupe. But it's way out of my price range right now. My Pop's car has a fuel injected 347 in it that's making about 400hp. Nothing to crazy just a great street car that is realiable and above all else, streetable.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...16_18_full.jpg

wow, very nice! The open cockpit makes it that much cooler :)

Looks cool. I tell you every time I drive mine I feel like these guys in this video below. I have no idea who they are, but their reaction is great after the acceleration burst.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=shelby+cobra

It looks like the guy nails it around 30-35 or so in 1st gear and goes 2nd, 3rd, 4th, up to about 120-130 judging on how my car is geared.

That video is so damn true. That was pretty much my reaction to the car when I drive it. Something about the exhaust exiting right next to your ear and the squirrley feeling the car gets. Damn I want to go drive it again!!!!