C6 Z06 vs. modified Cobra
 

This video was posted over on another forum. It's of a new 2006 Corvette Z06 vs. a modified SVT Cobra with
-Steeda intake
-X-pipe w/no cats
-Magnaflow cat-back
-Diablo Chip
-Smaller pulley
-Kenny Brown full suspension
-approx. 460+ RWHP

http://media.putfile.com/C6-Z06-vs-03-Cobra

I watched the video a few times and it looks like that Cobra took about 13 seconds to get to 100 mph, and the Z06 was about 4 seconds ahead at that point. The Cobra took about 24 seconds to get to 140 mph in the second run. A better race for that Cobra might have been a stock FD.

that zo6 sounded AMAZING! and whats up with the stupid high pitched wine the mustang makes?

Wow, that Cobra got shut down hard. I would believe that with those mods, the Cobra might have either more horsepower, or put up a better fight though.

It's the stock supercharger on the Mustang.

sounds like the Supercharger

hella sick

I don't like that sound..... Wow to that Vette though.

i cant wait till i see on of those new Z06's on the street. I will have to bring a camcorder with me at all times to record the guys face when i toast him.

:rofl:

That was a pretty impressive showing by that vette, i didnt expect them to be that fast.
-Austin

I can't wait to buy a C6 Z06 used a few years from now and twin turbo it, until then I will be out looking to see how I fair against one with my FD.

Nice vid..

YEAH ALEX I would think that the cobra had put up a better fight as well. is the cobra guy a bad driver

That is the perfect example of why GM should have bought Mazda out in the early 90's rather than Ford. Ford actully was the one the stoped producing the RX7 and the Engenners at Mazda beged them to let them remake the RX. I'll never buy a Found On Road Dead (ford) Now put that supercharger on that vette and you will really move.

Now I hope you now the Zo6 has a 6 speed tranny with an extreaml tall final gear. Like the rx7. Yet the rx7 is a little motor with little torque so it lacks acceleration in the low end but has killer speed. As most of you already know. The vett is 3 times stronger and has a lot more torque with a taller final gear. Forget about horse power and torque numbers at this moment. that mustang is set up to take off the line with a shorter final gear and a taller first gear for torque that is why after some time in that video you see the zo6 pulling and pulling. . . God Bless GM. And even more so the Vette weighs less cuz it's plastic. Final verdict. . . . . when out on the road don't mess with no vetts!

I sold my FD when I stopped street racing, but picked up another fun car a few months back.

I've seen four of the new Corvette Z06s here in Scottsdale, AZ. I actually had a yellow 2006 Z06 doing the full throttle blasts to try to get me to run him on the freeway a couple weeks ago. It was painful to not do it, but I suspect I'd of put about a block on the guy in the first few seconds. I caught up to the guy in the Z06 a bit later after exiting from the freeway and hitting a red light. He said he just picked up the car used about 20 minutes ago. We had a nice conversation about our cars, engines weights and such and went on our way.


2550 lbs with me in the car
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...r_2005-med.JPG

engine
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/s...cat=500&page=1

Ford still kills GM..partly why GM had to shut down a factory only for it to be bought by Toyota, and if Ford is Found On Road Dead to u, then i guess Chevrolet is Cracked Heads Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Engine Ticks..one race doesnt settle it, but that Vette was quick.

That cobra would have obliterated a stock FD.

510crank > 255 crank

Weight wouldn't even matter.

The cobra guy clearly couldn't drive.

Race two was much closer.

do you just make this shit up? the FD wasn't selling well in the US in 94/95 and was going to cost more money to make OBD2 ready. go figure. i guess ford should have just carried mazda more and let them sell FD's at a loss. damn ford!:rolleyes:

then why does my dads 1990's(dont know what year) ford F150 make that noise when he goes over 3K prm?

Take a Z06 supercharge it and it will put bus lengths on a mustang, better yet get the lingenfelter twin turbo kit and put football fields on a silly modded mustang. Mustangs are not even in the same class as Z06's it would be more fair to compare the GTO vs. Mustang

Well, they cater to different audiences. There are plenty of "silly modded mustangs" that would pull buslengths on a supercharged Z06. The mustangs that could pull on a ligenfelter TT are all drag cars, however. Once you get into the more power, displacement matters more and more. Lets not get carried away though. There are many cobras who would eat the Z06 for lunch. Its an endless cycle. But yes, you are right. Mustangs and Vettes are in different classes. Shock of the century.

Notice how I said that it would be more fair to the mustang, to be racing a GTO or maybe even a 350Z with mods.

What Cobra's could eat a Z06 for lunch I would pay to see that in real life. And by the way the Z06 can lap the nurburgring at 7:42.XXX to make a compareson look at this chart I got off the Motor Trend site

*note no fords to be found only supercars!

Porsche Carrera GT 7:32
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:42
Porsche 996 GT2 7:42
Pagani Zonda S 7:44
Lamborghini Murciélago 7:50
Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52
Mercedes-McLaren SR 7:52
Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59
Porsche 911 8:07
Dodge Viper GTS 8:10

Watch the video. For the first run when the Cobra takes 13 seconds to go from third beep to 100 mph it would have been about as fast as a stock FD. Last time I checked this is about the same as the three FDs I've owened anyway when they were in stock trim. The Cobra actually takes 24 seconds to go to 140 mph in the second run.

Well next time you go race at the Nurburgring, you can keep that in mind :rolleyes: Face it, 99% of people race in a straight line. So when your ass gets handed to you by a Mustang or Camaro.. just tell them your car can lap the Nurburgring faster.. Im sure they'll care.

"...Stupid high pitched wine..."
Only one thing to say such an IGNORANT comment......YIKES.

darnit. how is that ignorant? it was just a question...

You'll never get it.
 

The high pitched wine is quite possibly one of the top three greatest sounds known in existence when it comes to automobiles. Here's the top three (In no particular order): The high pitched squeal of a supercharger/blower; the sound of a large turbo spooling; a big block funny car with a large cam idling-revving-idling.
If you don't "get" the supercharger sound, go rent MAD MAX.

Oh please. Its straight line racing I'm talking about. You know..the type of racing you SEE IN THE VIDEO.

:rofl: Sure you can pay if you want, but there are plenty of videos online you can see for free.

:lol:

Not everybody "races" in a straight line basically because that is all it proves is your car can go in a straight line (Im pretty sure every car I have ever seen can go in a straight line) and you can put any retard in the car and come up with the same results. Some people like to see how well their car can brake, accerate, corner and what the top speed of their car is all at once which really proves which car is superior not who can do 60-120 faster.

People that know anything about racing other then 150 shot NAWS and automatic mustangs fully equipt with confederate flags and wheelie bars do care about how fast a car can lap a track especially when that track is the most respected race track in the world hands down.

I threw the nurburgring lap times out there because the ring is the most demanding and challenging course in the world and can prove what is faster. All auto manufactuers test their top of the line cars there to make them faster and handle better, they all want the bragging rights to fastest lap in their class because that proves who has the better product.

When was the last time a car came from the factory with drag slicks, naws, 3000 RPM stall converters, battery cut off switches and whatever else you need for a drag car?

Hmm... maybe because this is not how the rest of the world recognizes a true fast car.

But the video in question is 2 cars racing... in a straight line. And there are mustangs-o-plenty that would crush the Z06 in this category. Nothing you are saying is relevant to the discussion at hand.

to notveryhappyjack who mentioned that put a supercharger on the Z06 and it would pull bus lengths on the stang and that their not even in the same class...Thats what makes it so good when you watch some of the videos on the internet and the vette gets to see the ford emblem on the back of the stang as it goes flying by. Theyre are stangs out their that can beet vettes no questions asked. You cant seriously think their isnt, because its all about weight and hp. If a mustang has a lot of mods and is a little heavier then the vette but has way more hp it will win. Oviously any cobra bone stock and vette the vette will win. But notveryhappyjack is saying he would pay to see a cobra beet a vette in real life. Well im sure u could find volkswagen bettles that could beet vettes or dare i say it civics that could beet vettes. So i would keep some cash on u incase u ever see a race. Its all horsepower and weight. and sry bud guess u better give me some money because look what i found...justice

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....t=top&kw=5&p=5

True true. Track racing is the real deal, but in this case on this thread, they were drag racing. stock for stock the z06 will take the cobra, but when both are modded its anyones game and if the owner can afford the aftermarket parts that his opponent can afford. One can have a better budget, so thats where it all plays out.

Plus the Ford GT will swallow a ZO6 at Nurburgring anyday. If I were to have a Mustang and could modify it with anything I wanted, It'd crush the Lingenfelter. Definitely a nice race though. The Supercharger sounded a little louder than stock though. On the second run the Cobra guy studdered a shift. He could shift quicker if he wanted to, or knew how to race shift. Seemed like the ZO6 did get a jump though

Whenever I race, I race down a long twisty road with turns that far outnumber the amount of straights. I guess it isn't really racing, more like follow the leader. Straight lines bore me far too much to care which car goes can hit a speed faster, or make it to the end of an alloted space without complications of braking and handling. And notveryhappy, thanks for bringing up those lap times. I almost forgot that Porsche had the number one spot on the list.

Perhaps this wasn't the greatest location to express a view on straight line racing, but isn't the entire point of being on a forum to express opinions, facts, and interests?

What?

Where are these mustangs o plenty that can not only out race a Z06 but crush one because I have yet to see one. If you are talking about modded mustangs which I know you are because Ford can't touch a Z06 stock for stock(Maybe the GT40) then you have to make the playing field the same for the race to be credible what so ever and let the Z06 have some mods like maybe a lingenfelter turbo set up that makes a dyno proven 800 plus horsepower.

hey look at the vid i posted above ^^^^

I will swallow my pride on this one but that a C5 Z06 with 405 HP (don't know what a chip/exhaust adds) vs. a 500 plus horse power modded (doesn't say whats done) mustang. Now if that race had been a C6 which is what I have been talking about in the past threads with a stock 505 HP throw all the mods in the world at it and a mustang wouldn't touch it so IDK its all relative and in the racing world money is what wins and whoever throws more of it at a car is obviously going to win this has been proven over time that money always prevails and this is why it is dumb to compare cars only in straight lines.

Good find on the video I have never seen that before.

ya well then if that had been a c6 why dont we just say that we will add some nitros to that stang if were going to be changing the vid why not do that eh...and the other thing that makes a stang victory so much better is the price range diff..considering a SVT Cobra is aprox 40,000 lets say and thats a high guess...and a C6 is what 80,000?? thats a big gap

I get so sick of hearing that line about how much a car cost and why that makes the win better and all that, racing has always come down to who has more money so if your going to play with the big boys bring a big boy wallet.

C6 Z06 cost 65,000 and I will take your word on what the mustang cost seeing how I obviously don't know anything about it. Maybe whoever owns that mustang can take the 20,000 he would be saving on a Z06 and get a suspension set up to harness all that power they have so they can race somewhere other then on the highway.

ok thx for getting the right price i had no idea, i was going to guess 70,000 but i didnt no...and yes racing is about money but when comparing 2 cars u have to take that into consideration. because if u put an extra 25,000 into the mustang u got a race, other wise its not really even so u cant be saying ford is crap just because the mustang is a lot less money and slower

I m not trying to talk shit on Fords, I just feel that if you going to be dropping a lot of money on a fast car I expect it to be fast on all aspects not just quarters or on a freeway, thats all I am saying. Competition is the best thing that can happen to the domestic car makers IMO it pushes the companies(after market too) to make better products which in return means better cars for us the consumers, so its all good.

couldnt agree more..although i like races that actually test a driver and the car...although dont get me wrong drag racing is awesome but i like it when drivers actually have to move the wheel...but im sure u agree...

Really? You think that Ford GT will ever decide to run the ring & beat a 7:40? Put up or shut up as they say! :) The GT has been out for how many years & the C6 ZO6 for a few months. The Z06 times are already posted (7.42 & a 7:40....same times as an SLR & an 800 Hp Koniggseg CCR - pretty damn impressive).

You best await someone whom has the balls to run their GT before talkin' smack. No offense to you by any means. I just don't think its right to be making wild azz claims without any proof - especially in light of a 7:40 run. The new Z06 hauls azz on a TRACK, not just the strip.

-Matt

i believe that the zo6 is rated at .99 g's. and the gt40 at 1g. Now correct me if i am wrong but i don't think it will make that big of a difference. I cannot agree with the statement that the gt40 can smash the new zo6. In the quater mile it only beats the vette by like a couple tenths. Plus you got to factor in where they get thier power at. These corvetts are just like a viper that can handle. They shift at 7,000rpms. that is a wide power band. so in actuallity it could possibly be faster. That also could be the reason ford has not tried to beat it. Along with other auto manufacturers. why set yourself up to be imbaressed. Truthfully besides looks the gt40 is nothin. would rather spend 71,xxx for a vette than 140,xxx for a gt40.

Let's put all the bs aside stock for stock it gives you a good idea of how a modified cobra compares to a stock z06..We all know we could go on for days about what car can beat what so lets give that a rest already. It get's old reading about it everytime a good vid comes up. This is not directed at you.

The 2006 Z06 is rated .99 g - 1.09 g, depending who did the driving test.

Well, if we're going strictly based on what we saw in the video, then its safe to say the majority of mustangs out there won't be a match for a stock Z06, much less modded ones...in a straight line or around corners. Doesn't make sense to really compare modded cars to stock ones because the budget behind either of the cars will most likely determine the victor. :)

Nice Ride 2550 lbs and how much power? Thats not the original engine. What type of trany are you using. That car if I may say was never labled a mustang. It is the the zenith of fords racing and engeniering now a days this are different. they need sales and the new body is what every one wants not speed and even less poor fuel economy. But I do respect that ride. Let me get you some pictures of one of my friends rides. God bless

Thanks for the video. It looks like the Corvette in this video was a C5, older model, stock Z06.

I have the November 2005 issue of Automobile. They are comparing the new Viper coupe, new Z06 and new Ford GT. Keep in mind these results are from fully beating on the cars for an extended period of time for best results, driven by profesional drivers. It apears the acceleration testing was done with zero rollout. Some magazines with lower times use a 12 inch rollout which discounts times in the quarter mile by a bit and 0 to x speeds are a touch lower too.

For their road course test best lap times
Ford GT 1:32.45
Corvette Z06 1:32.75
Viper coupe 1:33.95

For the best lateral(cornering) Gs
Corvette Z06 1.1/1.09
Viper coupe 1.04/1.02
Ford GT 1.03/1.01

Weight
Corvette Z06 3147
Viper coupe 3454
Ford GT 3489

Breaking 70 - 0 mph
Corvette 149 ft.
Viper coupe 150 ft.
Fort GT 156 ft.

acceleration 0 - 60 mph and 1/4 mile
Corvette Z06 4.1, 12.0 sec.
Ford GT 3.8, 12.2 sec.
Viper coupe 4.3, 12.4 sec.

top speed
Ford GT 205 mph
Corvette Z06 198 mph
Viper coupe 190 mph