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quick_brick 10-31-05 08:16 AM

600HP Supra bows to Turbo Trans Am.
 
This might interest you LS1-RX7 guys. This what you can do in a somewhat heavy car running low boost. This supra gets walked :) i don't know if this will be moved or not but, enjoy.

<a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/iPlayer.aspx?fileid=3888F138-542B-4505-A539-B9D42B19B0F6" target="_blank"><img src="http://thumbs.streetfire.net/3888F138-542B-4505-A539-B9D42B19B0F6.jpg" width="115" height="86"></a><br><a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/iPlayer.aspx?fileid=3888F138-542B-4505-A539-B9D42B19B0F6" target="_blank">Click to see Video</a>

3rexII7 10-31-05 08:25 AM

Nice video! I don't think the term getting "walked" is appropriate for this situation ^_^

quick_brick 10-31-05 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by 3rexII7
Nice video! I don't think the term getting "walked" is appropriate for this situation ^_^

what do you think would be appropriate? raped, destroyed, embarassed, smoked,...i dunno :)

BoostedFd3s 10-31-05 09:21 AM

HOLLY CRAP...thats one fast TransAm....nice video

Whizbang 10-31-05 09:22 AM

ive seen that.

IndyKid 10-31-05 02:18 PM

Repost, repost, repost. In the end it's still a white trash pos that's worth $6500 w/mods.

Alex-7 10-31-05 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
Repost, repost, repost. In the end it's still a white trash pos that's worth $6500 w/mods.

Sensitive about this one?

In the end it's still faster than that supra. And if it cost way less to build, so much the better.

Fumanchu 10-31-05 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
Repost, repost, repost. In the end it's still a white trash pos that's worth $6500 w/mods.

:pity: Classic argument when a Supra looses on a highway from a roll. :rofl: :rlaugh:

G's 3rd Gen 10-31-05 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
Repost, repost, repost. In the end it's still a white trash pos that's worth $6500 w/mods.

Repost yes.. But it still spanked that supra's ass!!

rx_prez 10-31-05 02:28 PM

Yay for cars that can go fast in straight lines on highways! I dont just mean the trans-am I mean any high horsepower car. Anybody with money can make a car go fast in a straight line. It takes alot of talent to push the gas pedal and see how fast you go in a straight line....

IndyKid 10-31-05 02:31 PM

I don't care. Just stating the facts. I think that it's funny that the supra IS the measuring stick for speed and when one loses everybody is happy.

Whizbang 10-31-05 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by rx_prez
Yay for cars that can go fast in straight lines on highways! I dont just mean the trans-am I mean any high horsepower car. Anybody with money can make a car go fast in a straight line. It takes alot of talent to push the gas pedal and see how fast you go in a straight line....

quality

Alex-7 10-31-05 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
I don't care. Just stating the facts. I think that it's funny that the supra IS the measuring stick for speed and when one loses everybody is happy.

Nobody was jumping for joy about a supra death.
This was just like any other kill thread before you got a 'lil salty about your favorite car loosing.

a13btrx7@hotmail.com 10-31-05 03:44 PM

ya my dream car is a supra twin turbo . sad that the supra lost , but thats one sick trans am . but i like the supra better because its a japanese car and has probably more potential then the trans am from all the magazines i have read .lol ,and i know american cars tend to brake down alot . i know iver been there . but anyways im sad for the supra

eriksseven 10-31-05 04:01 PM

Trans-Am's are fast... But IMO they're :gayboy:

It would've sucked to have been the driver of that Supra... Making a 500+hp car feel slow...

Alex-7 10-31-05 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by a13btrx7@hotmail.com
ya my dream car is a supra twin turbo . sad that the supra lost , but thats one sick trans am . but i like the supra better because its a japanese car and has probably more potential then the trans am from all the magazines i have read .lol ,and i know american cars tend to brake down alot . i know iver been there . but anyways im sad for the supra


haha,
If you read jap car magazines they will lead you to believe the supra is the ultimate car with endless "potential"

I can't think of a single reason a supra has more potential than an LS1 anything.

7THSIGN 10-31-05 04:34 PM

that was not a Supra guys, look very close, its a civic with a wide body kit.

now this is a slow Supra:
right click, save as.

1noblerider 10-31-05 04:40 PM

that was nice. every one knows you build cars for specific race conditions. the supra may have won on a track with shorter sprints and corners or who knows. very nice video.

IndyKid 10-31-05 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Alex-7
haha,
If you read jap car magazines they will lead you to believe the supra is the ultimate car with endless "potential"

I can't think of a single reason a supra has more potential than an LS1 anything.


Just so you know....supra is not my favorite car. It just happens to be on of the fastest cars around. And there is a big difference between a ls1 and 2jz. The 2jz comes stock with forged internals. Which is why you can "bolt" ons and get alot more power. Even with a tt setup on a ls1 you can only run like 5 to 7 psi before you have to break the block and upgrade the rods and pistons. A good friend of mine that lives here just set a new record for a stock engine and tras supra....1017rwhp. With an ls1 you would be at half that at best.

PhatManBUD 10-31-05 05:06 PM

id still rather take a supra, anyday over that shit.

SoontobeLS1'd 10-31-05 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
Just so you know....supra is not my favorite car. It just happens to be on of the fastest cars around. And there is a big difference between a ls1 and 2jz. The 2jz comes stock with forged internals. Which is why you can "bolt" ons and get alot more power. Even with a tt setup on a ls1 you can only run like 5 to 7 psi before you have to break the block and upgrade the rods and pistons. A good friend of mine that lives here just set a new record for a stock engine and tras supra....1017rwhp. With an ls1 you would be at half that at best.

people are going to hate me for this...but how much did it cost him to get to that amount of horsepower? what does the area under the curve look like? a forged bottom LS1 is going to have just as much potential as the 2JZ...and the cost is minimal to put in forged rods and pistons. your power curve is also going to be a lot more "driver friendly".

if you want to go cheaper, use an iron block "LS1" and punch it out to 7 liters...that'll get the turbos spoolin' up nice and quick! but that deviates from the original comaprison anyways...sorry.

in all honesty, though, i think a 1000+hp streetcar is pretty ridiculous either way you go about it.

Trying to stay on topic here...nice job to the guy in the TA.

Happy Halloween! :dark:

RX794 10-31-05 06:56 PM

Can you say displacement?

quick_brick 10-31-05 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by rx_prez
Yay for cars that can go fast in straight lines on highways! I dont just mean the trans-am I mean any high horsepower car. Anybody with money can make a car go fast in a straight line. It takes alot of talent to push the gas pedal and see how fast you go in a straight line....

American cars can't handle...waaah. Thats all i ever hear from you import dudes. I happen to love ALL cars, and i can see the strength and weaknesses in diffrent cars, and it is documented that 3rd and 4th gen Fbods CAN handle very well from the factory, and even more so when set up properly. Remember, not only imports can handle.

quick_brick 10-31-05 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by PhatManBUD
id still rather take a supra, anyday over that shit.

bitter, party of one!

JasonFC 10-31-05 07:25 PM

^^ I like you, lol

quick_brick 10-31-05 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by JasonFC
^^ I like you, lol

thanks, i'm not here to razz anyone, cause i love FD's, FC's, and basicly any car that can handle good. You guys seem to be real good sports about V8's, because most import owners are decidely not.

IndyKid 10-31-05 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by SoontobeLS1'd
a forged bottom LS1 is going to have just as much potential as the 2JZ.

:


That is was the whole point. You don't need to because it's already done when you get the car. Even so, you show me any kit(no Nos) that you can get 400rwhp out of ls1 for $300 bucks.

diesel power 10-31-05 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
That is was the whole point. You don't need to because it's already done when you get the car. Even so, you show me any kit(no Nos) that you can get 400rwhp out of ls1 for $300 bucks.

Let's face it IndyKid, if you were to take a poll here I believe that a significant majority would prefer a Supra over some hillbilly TransAm anyday.

audiobot7 10-31-05 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by SoontobeLS1'd
people are going to hate me for this...but how much did it cost him to get to that amount of horsepower? what does the area under the curve look like? a forged bottom LS1 is going to have just as much potential as the 2JZ...and the cost is minimal to put in forged rods and pistons. your power curve is also going to be a lot more "driver friendly".

if you want to go cheaper, use an iron block "LS1" and punch it out to 7 liters...that'll get the turbos spoolin' up nice and quick! but that deviates from the original comaprison anyways...sorry.

in all honesty, though, i think a 1000+hp streetcar is pretty ridiculous either way you go about it.

Trying to stay on topic here...nice job to the guy in the TA.

Happy Halloween! :dark:

Ls1's are alum. blocks :)

1QWIK7 10-31-05 09:53 PM

the 2jz was made to make power

thats why people who wants to build high hp with these engines ALWAYS suceed because it comes easy..

this video shows that the other car had more power..wow, that means nothing..

if you look through the net for supra videos..90% of them show them whipping the other car's ass..simple as that..

engine is amazing

Brody8877 10-31-05 09:54 PM


American cars can't handle...waaah. Thats all i ever hear from you import dudes. I happen to love ALL cars, and i can see the strength and weaknesses in diffrent cars, and it is documented that 3rd and 4th gen Fbods CAN handle very well from the factory, and even more so when set up properly. Remember, not only imports can handle.
I agree with him, each cars has its own stregnth and weaknesses

breckboarder55 10-31-05 10:01 PM

thats cool i like supras and all but im looking for an fbody as a daily driver so i can still keep the seven, it just giving me to high of a running costin the end it will be my weekend car.

Marshall 10-31-05 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by SoontobeLS1'd
what does the area under the curve look like?

between shift points, better than an LSx. Granted the bottom end is somewhat weak, but they pack a plateau of power where it counts.

quick_brick 11-01-05 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by audiobot7
Ls1's are alum. blocks :)

you can get an iron LSX block out of a truck for cheap sometimes. 100 bucks for a core when i worked at the dealer :) Trucks mostly get the iron lsx block. Actually, i think it would be "Gen III" block.

quick_brick 11-01-05 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by diesel power
Let's face it IndyKid, if you were to take a poll here I believe that a significant majority would prefer a Supra over some hillbilly TransAm anyday.

I don't see why Trans Am's are hillbilly. Does owning a rx-7 or a supra make you a homo-erotic ricer club boy? No, i don't think so. A good car is a good car. LS1's have endless potential, and so do 2jz's. These are BOTH in fast cars, just because you are biased toward one or the other will not change anything. I vote for my twin turbo LS7 project though.. :us4allswi

The recaro 1982 trans am pulled a 0.856g in 1982, stock. yeah...so hillbilly, they can't handle. :uh:

rotorsownyou7 11-01-05 07:33 AM

So what did that Trans Am have? 800 whp? It would have to have a good amount if the Supra was 600 and it walked it like that. Why does everyone argue. If a car weighs about the same amount, and has a lot more horsepower, it will walk a car just liek that. What is the big deal. Let a high hp Supra run that Trans Am and see if the result is the same. No sir.

rotorsownyou7 11-01-05 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by quick_brick
I don't see why Trans Am's are hillbilly. Does owning a rx-7 or a supra make you a homo-erotic ricer club boy? No, i don't think so. A good car is a good car. LS1's have endless potential, and so do 2jz's. These are BOTH in fast cars, just because you are biased toward one or the other will not change anything. I vote for my twin turbo LS7 project though.. :us4allswi

The recaro 1982 trans am pulled a 0.856g in 1982, stock. yeah...so hillbilly, they can't handle. :uh:


.856 sucks pretty bad. Sorry :)

I actually like TA's, but not those models.

turbodrx7 11-01-05 07:53 AM

There is always a faster car, no matter what you do there will be another car out there to beat it. There is no sense in argueing because it will just go around in circles all day. That is a really fast TA tho.
-Austin

IndyKid 11-01-05 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by quick_brick
I don't see why Trans Am's are hillbilly.
:uh:


You wouldn't because you are a hillbilly and can't look outside in. The trailer park that is.

quick_brick 11-01-05 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
You wouldn't because you are a hillbilly and can't look outside in. The trailer park that is.

sorry, i was out huntin' for some coon meat, in my mullet and all!

quick_brick 11-01-05 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
.856 sucks pretty bad. Sorry :)

I actually like TA's, but not those models.

a 1990 IROC-Z will pull up to .90 on the skid. If i recall, the enchated with japanese mana all ruling savanna RX7's pulled .91 thats not much better than the iroc, really. and thats an unmodded iroc, when you start modding it (SFC's, tubular LCA's, ect ect) you have yourself a true G-machine. the 82 handled pretty OK because, for having bicycle tires and very little power, those cars were still decently handling cars. The updated specs on the 85's through 92's is what most of us 3rd gen guys look for, some of those early ones didin't even come with rear sway bars. :rolleyes:

DrewS2k 11-01-05 10:21 AM

good kill supras are great cars but not unbeatable i plan to get one in a couple of months but i am still keeping my 7 i dont like domestics but i appreciate anything fast and thats a fast ta!

Marshall 11-01-05 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by quick_brick
a 1990 IROC-Z will pull up to .90 on the skid. If i recall, the enchated with japanese mana all ruling savanna RX7's pulled .91 thats not much better than the iroc, really. and thats an unmodded iroc, when you start modding it (SFC's, tubular LCA's, ect ect) you have yourself a true G-machine. the 82 handled pretty OK because, for having bicycle tires and very little power, those cars were still decently handling cars. The updated specs on the 85's through 92's is what most of us 3rd gen guys look for, some of those early ones didin't even come with rear sway bars. :rolleyes:


Please tell me we're not going to have a pissing contest on the handling of 3rd gen F-body vs an FD. I think that ship sailed about 12 years ago.

RETed 11-01-05 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by SoontobeLS1'd
if you want to go cheaper, use an iron block "LS1" and punch it out to 7 liters...that'll get the turbos spoolin' up nice and quick! but that deviates from the original comaprison anyways...sorry.

That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.


-Ted

RETed 11-01-05 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by quick_brick
a 1990 IROC-Z will pull up to .90 on the skid. If i recall, the enchated with japanese mana all ruling savanna RX7's pulled .91 thats not much better than the iroc, really. and thats an unmodded iroc, when you start modding it (SFC's, tubular LCA's, ect ect) you have yourself a true G-machine.

If you had any clue on suspension performance, you'd understand that skidpad G's don't mean shit.

That IROC is running 245 / 50 / 16 tires.
The FC is running 205's...maybe 225's.

The FC will run RINGS around an IROC when you talk about overall handling.
The IROC underdamped and too front heavy.


-Ted

SoontobeLS1'd 11-01-05 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.


-Ted

How so?

scratchjunkie 11-01-05 11:10 AM

wow that trans am is a beast! but its hard to see how really fast they are since the supra isnt a slouch either.

SoontobeLS1'd 11-01-05 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by audiobot7
Ls1's are alum. blocks :)

I was referring to the LQ9, which is an iron version of the LS1 and used quite a bit for high-boost applications. one of the reasons being (besides their strength) they are cheap and easy to come by.

Force13B 11-01-05 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by IndyKid
That is was the whole point. You don't need to because it's already done when you get the car. Even so, you show me any kit(no Nos) that you can get 400rwhp out of ls1 for $300 bucks.

450$ but close as i could get
http://slowassneon.com/nitrousdyno.jpg

IndyKid 11-01-05 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Force13B
450$ but close as i could get
http://slowassneon.com/nitrousdyno.jpg

What is this? I said NO NOS!!


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