396 fwhp SRT4 Neon Kills Stock FD!
 

I was caravanning to Englishtown Raceway Park in NJ for Street wars 2/ Evo-vs-Wrx/ Mazda Zoom Zoom event... There was 1 Evo with 509 4whp a 2nd Evo with 550 4whp and a Neon SRT4 with 396 fwhp...

I knew these cars were tuned but did not find out to what extent till after we got to our destination... I thought I had the best chance against the Neon. So we lined up on 95 south NJTP for a third gear pull....

I was in 4th and dropped it in 3rd and floored it. At first I pulled ahead by a half a car, but as I was accellerating the Neon caught up and walked me strong. I threw 4th and he was a half a car ahead. By the middle of 4th he had a whole car length on me...

What a surprise!

He told me later he was running 20 psi on a Gt 35 60 Turbo... 396 fwhp...

I said to myself... It's still a Neon.... Plus we were parked together and everyone at the track was photographing my car and saying, "ooooh an RX7, LOOK!"... Nobody noticed his Neon.... Hahahaa....

Oh well.... I am going to have to sic my friends FD with the R85 Turbo on him to put him back in his place!

another neon hater, it may still be a neon but you can't denie their freaking fast when tuned. good death i also lost to one a long time ago when i was stock on my TII, the neon was pushing 282whp so he walk me lol.

dude, thats not a bad death at all! you only lost by 1 car length in your stock fd to a 396 whp neon?? i would have thought hed put 10 lengths on you. he doesnt weight much more than you with a 150whp advantage... somethng isnt adding up. that srt4 will lay down 120+mph in the 1/4... traction should not be an issue with a 3rd gear roll... how were you able to stay within 1 car?

+1 ^

The neon could have had 396 fwhp but it might have not had driver mod.

He and his passenger are fat as hell... I also held 3rd gear a bit longer than he did...

All jokes aside he seems like a cool person, even though they had jokes afterwards about the outcome.

:rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh: ah aha ha. thats great! sucks that his weight could slow him that much! i acutally have seen this before. I raced a new R1 with a fat dude driving when i had my EVO (high 12s at this point w/ a launch)... looked like big pun on the motor scooter in that video. i barely won but still, that bike should have rocked me. the damn thing was sagging over the rear tire.

jokes should be on them... you held withing 1 car length of his that is making 150+more whp. if anything that says something about the fd....

Says something about the drivers too...

Thats my boy!

Damn Duane, I didn't know your car was stock! With those aftermarket wheels, you're probably actually running slower than a stock FD actually. Nice run man, you definitely made a nice showing, gave those guys something to think about :)

Since I'm an SRT-4 and FC owner I figured I would chime in.

There are a few cars on the road I actually would be excited about lining up against and an FD probably would be one of them. To this day I have only seen a handful of them on the road so I'm sure the SRT-4 owner was probably a little overexcited about the run.

Nice driving on your part to keep it close, because it sounds like it should have been a walk even with obese passengers.

Which stage was the Neon? Neon aren't that bad, I don't get why FWD's get bashed on so much? Understeer? Not race prepped? FWD pulls suck? No driveshaft? :dunno:

:rlaugh:

He might have been just keeping enough space to prove his point and not acctually going all out.

I seriously doubt that. I take it you've never made any highway pulls before.......

I have and I rarely go more than I have to...It's all about the mental games. If someone sees me pull 10 cars on a car, they'll know not to mess with me, but if they see me pull 1-1.5 cars on a civic, then they think they're going to kick my ass.

???? personally i like the respect that another car owner gives by not wanting a race after they see me pull 10+ cars on an e36 M3 (this happened this weekend). go all out or dont go at all IMHO.

Rich:

I really think you are correct... If my car were truely stock, I would have walked him... lol

Dwayne

ok but if the fd was putting 396 whp it would be a different story against a 396 fwp neon.

winning a race in a neon is like winning a race in the special olympics.....:lol:

A 396 whp neon against a stock FD? You guys are dreaming to think the FD had any chance. You cant compare the two. Spend the $$ the neon guy did in mods to the FD and now we have something!!

yeah, that was my point at the beginning. i have noticed some peoples definaition of a car length is much more than an 'actualy car length.'

A C T U A L Y O N E C A R L E N G T H . . .

Are you the guy that owns the neon?

:rlaugh:

I dislike to those cars *but* something is going on here. A stock FD should not even come close to hanging with a 396 FWHP neon. Even with a fat ass passenger, unless the dude is 500+ lbs. He has enough HP to overcome any driver incapability especially from a third gear roll.

Good death but I say it was one of these scenarios:

1) The guy was not going all out
2) For some reason your stock FD is much, much, much faster than the typical.
3) The SRT-4 has something wrong with it
4) The SRT-4 wasn't putting the power to the ground
5) The guy was in fift gear the whole time
6) He lied about his mods and HP

I think its most likely #3

sorry man but seriously the numbers just don't add up. A healthy stock FD dynoes at around 225 RWHP so he had 175 more HP. I'm all for the 7 but I have to stay real.

or it can be #6..many people these days think bolting on a mod will def. increase power.

ha ha, funny stuff. ACTUALLY, im the guy that would rock your car by what 175 more HP would do to a stock FD. i make a tad less whp than that neon, but id put 15+ cars on you, so id stop talkin shit if i were you. 1 car length DOES NOT ADD UP.

396 fwhp SRT4 Neon Kills...

ahahahaaa.... You rock my car???... I doubt it... Even if your car had 396 whp. It will never have a Driver Mod. :crackup:

Montego:

I would say that between BOTH "he and his passenger" together weighed in OVER 500 lbs...

Plus my FD still smells new at 28,000 miles and is in tip top shape....

:lol2: :lol2: HA HA HA HA AHM THIS IS FUNNY SHIT. BRO, my FD has 384 whp on high boost... i run 11's on street tires... so, your "driver mod" can somehow make your stock FD run 11's? LOL, i really really doubt your story now. your full of shit bud. 384whp w/ me driving> your stock FD.

I WOULD OWN YOU.

come down to charlotte... $1000 race. lets go. i want your money :jump:

Let me edit just a bit: well, 12.20's on yokos and pretty deep 11s on et streets, but still, both street legal, and both rediculously faster than your FD could hope for. so, your "driver mod" doesnt fly with me. I race SCCA and NASA events regularly and ussually win my class. stock FD run 11's? cause thats what you would need to run to be close to me... once again... your full of shit bud. 384whp w/ me driving> your stock FD.


you dont want a war with me... my daily driver would eat your FD (moddified audi S4)... let alone my weekend fun car.

What year S4?

Im thinking strongly about getting one for a DD in spring. I mean its luxurious, sporty looking, quick stock, and its awd for all weather conditions. My friend had an 01 S4 mildly modded and it would act up every so often. Not as much as people say but i just wanna hear input from a bunch of S4 owners.

Thanks

well you can't really count him too much because you are also in your car. Anyway I wasn't there so I have so I can't talk. Either way your car sounds very healthy, congratulations keep it that way and enjoy :)

mine is for sale... its a 2000. cant beat a high 12 second luxury/sports car car! only problem ive had with mine is a wheel bearing went out. its actually been the most problem-free car ive ever had.

You :rant: .... Me :hahano:

:bsflag:

Ask rt turbo he was there and saw the whole race.... :hahano:

It's for sale so he can buy a stock FD.... lol

haha ha, funny cocky little kid thinks he could win... not one person but you on this board would think you would win. come on 384 whp would demolish your stock fd. and calling bs on my driving skills. you never met me,... now put 2 and 2 together RX7UP... that means i never met you. so yeah, i havent seen your race... but that means you have no idea that ive been racing automobiles of some kind for 18 years... are you even 18 years old?


go mod little boy and come back... no wait... youd mess that car up.

Funny I am but cocky little kid I am definitly not... The BS flag was to wake you up and give you a taste of your own medicine. Becareful.... It seems you haven't learned your lesson by assuming my age... You haven't even been on the boards a year yet, that would explain your newbie replys.....

Don't worry I'll let you slide.

:O

Yeah, i was told to go for at least 01 cause the 00 had alot of problems. But we'll see when spring time comes around. I got time to think.

Still cant decide on a DD Rob?

WOW. and your not cocky? This whole statement is cocky. And what medicine would that be? me calling fishy on your claim that your 225whp (est.) car almost beat a car making 170whp more?... or are you saying 384whp is unatable in an fd? And what does it matter if ive been on the boards for just under a year? Im well liked. i dont ask questions unless i research, and i help when i can (I still cant stand bullshitters). I remember you bragging about racing at 110mph through the city in and around cars and everyone jumping your shit. so, yeah, seeing your past posts, this outragious claim, and your quick to jump on anyone who doubts you... I was right on to percieve you as a highschool-like kid. Remember, you started this shit with saying i was probab ly the neon dude. I hate neons, that was an insult.

rt turbo:

You are demonstrating the caracteristics of a thread troll... Trying to debate with a well known member of the club is not going to get you noticed... Posting redundant questions on my thread will get you no where... To put it nicely, get off my dick.....

Admit it, you really drive a neon... :rlaugh:

wellknown... from what ive seen not necessarily well liked. they werent redundant questions... i merely brougt instances that made me believe your a child.. or incredibly irresponsible. call me a thread troll.. your posting in a kill section a race that would be next to impossible. seems to me other 'well known' members were heavily doubting you. take this to the pms if you want to keep bitching. otherwise. im not going to waste my time.

you know who else is a well known member of the forum? mombodogs...:lol: owned.

I agree that you dont know what youre talking about. Tell us, what SRT-4 owner would pass up the chance to walk an FD by 10 lengths? Think before you post next time....for one thing, SRT-4 owners are probably the ones that get hassled the most about how they "still just drive a neon...", and second, the FD is among the list of cars that everyone wants the chance to race, but since there are not so many of them out there it is not as common.

Stock, the SRT doesnt stand a chance--less power, doesnt handle as well, etc etc etc....this would have been a dream kill for that guy to bury the FD by that many lengths. That would be worth more in terms of respect or bragging rights than anything else.

Sorry, I guess I just don't have the pride complex that seems to plague the rest of you.