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Giampiero 10-11-07 10:11 AM

sequential gearbox for FD3 racer
 
Anyone?
brand,impression,cost.......

Styk33 10-11-07 07:46 PM

Quaife was fairly popular a few years ago. They are out of England. I looked at them in 2000 and was impressed. I am too lazy to search for the website.

BlowenByTwins 10-11-07 09:41 PM

id like to know about this too so i can have ideas when i get around to building the race car

Mahjik 10-12-07 11:46 AM

HKS and Greddy both used to have 6-Speed as well as sequential gear boxes available a few years ago. It might be worth sending an email to both of them to see if they are still available.

I don't think I wouldn't bother talking with HKSUSA as they probably don't know anything. I would contact HKS Japan.

Giampiero 10-12-07 12:34 PM

thanks....
I find this company in Australia www.holinger.com.au
they have one,the RD6 with adaptor for the 13b and 20b...
waiting for info from their USA importer...

Styk33 10-12-07 10:49 PM

Giampiero, let us know what you find out about from the US importer. I am curious as they look to have decent gear boxes. I would really like a sequential dogring setup that I can call out my own ratios. Stock ratios are good for stock torque curves, but not for big singles :(

Jaime Enriquez 10-13-07 01:22 AM

For the low budget sequential shift action...I love the Ikeya Formula version...this is the best I have seen of it in operation. Suppposedly they used to chunk the shit out of transmissions, but now are much better. This is some crazy drift action, but the shifter is sick. It bolts onto factory trannys, but has the pull back upshift, push forward downshift action. Only seen 'em for Turbo II or FD trannys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0L-hkSMlY

Giampiero 10-13-07 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Jaime Enriquez (Post 7415620)
For the low budget sequential shift action...I love the Ikeya Formula version...this is the best I have seen of it in operation. Suppposedly they used to chunk the shit out of transmissions, but now are much better. This is some crazy drift action, but the shifter is sick. It bolts onto factory trannys, but has the pull back upshift, push forward downshift action. Only seen 'em for Turbo II or FD trannys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0L-hkSMlY

I have one,but its not on the car as yet.....
I will installed it soon ,but what I really want is a sequemtial 6 speed......

BlowenByTwins 10-13-07 04:11 PM

so is this clutchless? throttle interrupt maybe?

Mahjik 10-13-07 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by BlowenByTwins (Post 7416783)
so is this clutchless? throttle interrupt maybe?

Ikeya is not clutchless (unless you don't care about your transmission :) ).

Giampiero 10-13-07 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mahjik (Post 7416816)
Ikeya is not clutchless (unless you don't care about your transmission :) ).



exactly:rlaugh:

cpa7man 10-13-07 07:07 PM

Check with these guys.
http://www.taylor-race.com/subcat1.c...e%20Components

Giampiero 10-13-07 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by cpa7man (Post 7417171)


nice link,thanks

EProdRx7 10-13-07 08:00 PM

Xtrack, Hollinger, Quieffe, Hewland, Gertragg all make seq, shift trans. Cheep alterative would be a Jerico with a sequential shift adapter.

Giampiero 10-14-07 01:30 AM

Xtrac,Holinger,Quaife,Hewland,Getrag............

BlowenByTwins 10-14-07 11:27 AM

are any of these clutchless?

Miata_mx5 10-14-07 11:29 AM

R magic has one, i am sure panspeed makes one too.

BlowenByTwins 10-14-07 02:36 PM

any ideas on cost for a clutchless sequential system? (gearbox and shifter)

drftwerks 10-14-07 04:15 PM

ithink it was like 10K and +

sereneseven 10-14-07 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by BlowenByTwins (Post 7419057)
any ideas on cost for a clutchless sequential system? (gearbox and shifter)

By clutchless due you mean Dog ring? if so proper race boxes such as xtrac,emco,hewland.... will run $15,000+

and that silly bolt on shifter for the stock gearbox......are you serious? whats the point of a sequential shifter on a syncro box???

TrentO 10-16-07 05:44 PM

8-10K for a good, dog ring sequential gear box. I looked a bit into the Saenz boxes as they seemed a good value. The best cheaper option is probably the G-force T-5 Dog ring gear set. It isn't sequential, but the ratios map over to a road race car pretty good. For $3000 it seems pretty solid.

-Trent

Black91n/a 10-16-07 08:04 PM

T5 tranny to Mazda bellhousing adapters.

http://www.kennedyeng.com/other.htm
http://www.rotaryshack.com/Products/...sp?intView=100

The G-Force isn't a 1:1 5th, but hey, for the savings you can always just run a different rear end gear to make up the difference.

John Magnuson 10-16-07 09:41 PM

You can sometimes find a used Jerico from one of the roundy round stock car guys for a reasonable price. Everything else is super expensive.

eastcoastbumps 10-18-07 01:39 AM

I have a friend with a T-5 dog box in his 240SX. He said it was way cheaper to go that route than to get a set of dog gears for his Nissan transmission. I'd suspect the same is true for the Mazda transmissions.

Ottoman 10-18-07 02:27 AM

OS giken make really nice ones also

the GT-R's use them in drag alot ..

called OS-88 Version 2

Giampiero 10-24-07 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Styk33 (Post 7415344)
Giampiero, let us know what you find out about from the US importer. I am curious as they look to have decent gear boxes. I would really like a sequential dogring setup that I can call out my own ratios. Stock ratios are good for stock torque curves, but not for big singles :(

DID not get a reply from the importer as yet(sent e-mail the 12th of October);But I found out from a friend in Australia the cost with the adapator.......approx $22,000 US$:shocking: ,honestly I thought much less.

Styk33 10-25-07 09:53 AM

$22k is a ton of cash. My budget it half that, at the most :(

mike 25 10-29-07 07:51 PM

I'll sell ya a Hewland ST 5 speed (non sequential/no clutch) dog box, with a drop
gear, and many (25) gear sets, dog rings, shift forks, and other spares. With the flywheel, 4 1/2" clutch, and bellhousing for $23K (less than the cost of new).
Oh yea, I'll throw in the rest of the car for free.

speedturn 10-30-07 08:35 AM

A real sequential racing gear box is going to cost serious money. $22,000 is not out of line for the cost for a sequential box; X-Trac will cost $50,000. Trying to save money by buying a used racing gear box is always a risky proposition, unless you include the cost of immediately rebuilding it in your budget. If you really want speed for your car - then the money should be spent elsewhere on your car. Most racers are happy just making the jump from a street transmission to a heavy duty racing dog ring un-synchronized tranny - which are great for racing and horrible for street use.

TrentO 10-30-07 11:00 AM

I was just looking at the G-Force site yesterday. They list the GF5R with a V-gate shifter ('merican for sequential) for around $6000-$7000. They even list adapter plates at the botteom of the page for $350 for Turbo II, $550 for 3rd gen. Probably the cheapest option for a solid road race box available.

-Trent

Black91n/a 10-30-07 11:20 AM

Isn't a V-gate for upshifts only (more or less) and basically only good for drag racing?

TrentO 10-31-07 11:17 AM

Hard to say from their site:
http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/shifter_5_vn1000.asp

specifically the line: "Push-pull design virtually eliminates missed shifts."

kwerks 11-14-07 04:06 PM

$$$:shocking: $$$

Any other companies?

Black91n/a 11-14-07 06:53 PM

I'm pretty sure it's set up so that you just push and pull it back and forth to upshift and you have to pull the handle up or something to downshift, so it'll be hard to use in road racing.

speedturn 11-15-07 07:54 AM

I use a GF-5R with an H-gate shifter in my peripheral ported 13B road racer. Total cost of tranny with Magnesium case, the shifter and all the adapters, and custom driveshift and yokes ended up costing about $6500 several years ago. This thing is bullet proof, it was built to withstand big block V-8 engine drag racing. The upshifts are lightning fast; the faster you pull the shifter, the smoother and faster it shifts. Down shifting a dog ring box is tricky; whether sequential or not you will hear some crunching if the revs are not closely matched. This tranny is big - you will probably have to widen your tunnel for it like I did on my first gen. Since I put that tranny in a few years ago, I have not lost a road race because of transmission problems.

I believe the V-gate shifter is setup for drag racing up shifting only; that is why I use the horizontal gate shifter for road racing. The Long shifters (which is G-Force parent company) are one of the top favorite Nascar shifters, the Long shifter is even on Jerrico trannys.

If you are cheap and just want to brag that you have a sequential shifter, then get yourself a motorcycle :)

88GT 11-16-07 06:48 PM

Saenz Performance out of Florida

DPR 12-08-07 09:42 AM

Pfitzner Performance Gear sets is a place that I am going to order my dogbox. It is not sequential though. My friend has their drift/drag gear sets for his s13.5. The gears are amazing.

http://www.ppgearbox.com.au/index-html.htm

getrag123 10-08-08 05:48 PM

saenz boxx
 

Originally Posted by Giampiero (Post 7416083)
I have one,but its not on the car as yet.....
I will installed it soon ,but what I really want is a sequemtial 6 speed......

would u sell your saenz box

peejay 10-08-08 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by TrentO (Post 7469457)
Hard to say from their site:
http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/shifter_5_vn1000.asp

specifically the line: "Push-pull design virtually eliminates missed shifts."

Yes.

Pull back to 2nd

Push forward to 3rd

Pull back to 4th

You just don't have to go side-side.

Definitely NOT a sequential.

damian 10-09-08 09:02 PM

i know this was an old thread, but in case anyone is still trolling around:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=dt-5+damian

jantore 10-10-08 03:57 AM

U guys can have a look at http://www.libertysgears.com/

They do sell sequential gearboxes and normal dogboxes. I just orderd there modified Tremec TKO600 dogbox. That will suit my needs more then enough.

U also have a company called sellholm in sweden that makes sequential gearboxes that fit the FD bellhousing. They are about 12 0000 USD with todays exchange rate.

JT

Giampiero 10-12-08 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by getrag123 (Post 8622206)
would u sell your saenz box



sorry,its already sold.....

TrentO 10-15-08 02:18 PM

Which Saenz Box was it? The 840 seems a little small for a turbo setup.

The cheapest sequential option I've seen so far is probably this:

http://www.quaife.co.uk/QUAIFE-unive...ential-gearbox

or if you have a little less power, this one:

http://www.quaife.co.uk/Quaife-6-spe...uential-gerbox

-Trent

serbRX7 10-14-10 01:27 AM

Ikeya Formula Sequential Shifter
 
Ikeya Formula Sequential Shifter
just wondering if anyone has one installed on fd

or install pic


The Ikeya Formula sequential shifter converts conventional H-pattern shift to a sequential up and down shift mechanism. The clutch is still required, but the movement is dramatically simplified.

http://www.nengun.com/ikeya-formula/sequential-shifter


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