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MiataTurbo 01-19-07 09:55 AM

Feedback on Drama
 
Do not do business with Drama. Email/PayPal ID is dlshearer@hotmail.com.

I purchased (4) AFMs from Drama for $20/each. I sent him a payment of $80 via PayPal. Drama eventually shipped only 1 of the 4 AFMs, and promised a $60 refund for the others. 2 months later, and guess what, no refund. Just many broken promises and plenty of excuses.

Be warned: Do not do business with Drama. He stole $60 from me, but maybe he'll get more from you.

MiataTurbo 01-23-07 08:24 PM

:clit:

Rx-7Doctor 01-25-07 08:04 PM

Why is it that you guys never learn? Why do you allow shit to go on for months? You get a date from the seller as to when they will ship and how. Then you get a tracking number. If the stuff does not show up in a week tops from the time it has been shipped then you do some digging. If there is no evidence of shipping then you nail the person to the wall. Request a refund and do business with someone that has morals!

I sorry to be so harsh but you guys that accept excuses and wait forever are just asking to be scammed.

MiataTurbo 01-26-07 07:32 PM

That's really one of the dumbest posts I've seen on a public fourm. I didn't accept excuses, nor was I looking to be scammed. Frankly, I was powerless in the situation. How exactly do you "nail a person to the wall"? All you can do is request a refund. All the seller (aka thief) has to do is say no! Or even say yes (like Drama did) and never deliver on their promise (again, like Drama did).

The fact that you'd find fault with the victim of a scam, and not the scammer, says much about you. I'd like to add a second :clit: just for you. That way you and Drama don't have to share.

gxl87turbo 01-26-07 07:45 PM

lol

Turblown 01-26-07 07:50 PM

That guy has sent myself and a few of my customers the wrong parts. He just sits back and never responds.

gxl87turbo 01-26-07 07:53 PM

thats fucked up

MiataTurbo 01-26-07 07:54 PM

Well if he's stolen from others, we should all get together and file a claim with the FBI's Internet Crimes Division, or other appropriate agency.

gxl87turbo 01-26-07 08:06 PM

Or just go to his house in KY......... :ar:

cr7684 01-26-07 08:13 PM

Wow my parts came to me fast sorry your deal did not work out the same...

Rx-7Doctor 01-26-07 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by MiataTurbo
That's really one of the dumbest posts I've seen on a public fourm. I didn't accept excuses, nor was I looking to be scammed. Frankly, I was powerless in the situation. How exactly do you "nail a person to the wall"? All you can do is request a refund. All the seller (aka thief) has to do is say no! Or even say yes (like Drama did) and never deliver on their promise (again, like Drama did).

The fact that you'd find fault with the victim of a scam, and not the scammer, says much about you. I'd like to add a second :clit: just for you. That way you and Drama don't have to share.

You don't get it do you?
You did not cover your ass by doing the simple little things. So let me refresh them for you.
1). Ask when the product will go out
2). Ask for a tracking # on that day the person states the product will go out
Those above 2 things should tell you right off the bat whether you are going to have a good or a bad transaction.
If the person states that it is going out in 2 days and a week later you don't have a tracking number then the red flag should go up.
At that time you should be leary about the transaction. Usually what happens from the seller is a bunch of lame ass excuses that are just stall tactics. That person is usually going to tell you what you want to hear.
If at the 2nd request for shipping the person can't give you a date and tracking number than it's time to start the request for a refund.
Not when the time period has expired and paypal no longer allows a claim to be filed.

I'm very sympathetic to people getting scammed on this forum and it enrages me to see it happen. But what enrages me more is the buyer not taking pre-cautions to ensure that they will get what they have paid for.
I recommend you re-read what the forum moderators/owners have put about doing business on the forum and about what requirements are to be fullfilled if a dispute arises.

GoodfellaFD3S 01-26-07 09:08 PM

People need to only deal with reputable sellers, of which there are MAYBE 100 on this entire forum......

JHew84 01-26-07 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
People need to only deal with reputable sellers, of which there are MAYBE 100 on this entire forum......

so true, unfortunatly even some of the older members can't even be trusted, as yayer proved. There are definitly steps that need to be taken to ensure you protect yourself from being scammed, a thurough background check being one, verified paypal being another...

MiataTurbo 01-28-07 05:02 PM

I get it just fine. You didn't give any solid ways to "cover yourself."

I did everything I could to protect myself. Drama was responsive at first. I don't think you get it. A seller gives you his word as a man, and so you pay him. If the seller doesn't come through with the transaction, that doesn't mean that the right questions weren't asked by the buyer. It means the seller is a liar and a thief.

I initiated a paypal dispute before the deadline. Apparently it prompted Drama to send me an explicative laden PM on this forum. I then initiated a claim on the final day of the dispute. I was not awarded the claim because Drama sent 1 of 4 items. Had Drama sent 0 of 4 items, they would have judged in my favor. However, receiving a lower quantity than ordered is considered by paypal to be a dispute over the quality of the item, and paypal does not offer buyer protection of quality disputes outside of ebay. Basically, I got fucked.

Also, the funds that paid Drama came out my paypal account balance. I wish I had a $0 paypal balance and charged the items. Then I could have initiated a claim with the credit card company, but that's not how it worked out.

Keep ranting idiotically. I don't care; it brings the thread back to the top so everyone can see that Drama is a liar and a thief.



Originally Posted by rx7doctor
You don't get it do you?
You did not cover your ass by doing the simple little things. So let me refresh them for you.
1). Ask when the product will go out
2). Ask for a tracking # on that day the person states the product will go out
Those above 2 things should tell you right off the bat whether you are going to have a good or a bad transaction.
If the person states that it is going out in 2 days and a week later you don't have a tracking number then the red flag should go up.
At that time you should be leary about the transaction. Usually what happens from the seller is a bunch of lame ass excuses that are just stall tactics. That person is usually going to tell you what you want to hear.
If at the 2nd request for shipping the person can't give you a date and tracking number than it's time to start the request for a refund.
Not when the time period has expired and paypal no longer allows a claim to be filed.

I'm very sympathetic to people getting scammed on this forum and it enrages me to see it happen. But what enrages me more is the buyer not taking pre-cautions to ensure that they will get what they have paid for.
I recommend you re-read what the forum moderators/owners have put about doing business on the forum and about what requirements are to be fullfilled if a dispute arises.


Rx-7Doctor 01-28-07 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by MiataTurbo
I get it just fine. You didn't give any solid ways to "cover yourself."

I did everything I could to protect myself. Drama was responsive at first. I don't think you get it. A seller gives you his word as a man, and so you pay him. If the seller doesn't come through with the transaction, that doesn't mean that the right questions weren't asked by the buyer. It means the seller is a liar and a thief.

I initiated a paypal dispute before the deadline. Apparently it prompted Drama to send me an explicative laden PM on this forum. I then initiated a claim on the final day of the dispute. I was not awarded the claim because Drama sent 1 of 4 items. Had Drama sent 0 of 4 items, they would have judged in my favor. However, receiving a lower quantity than ordered is considered by paypal to be a dispute over the quality of the item, and paypal does not offer buyer protection of quality disputes outside of ebay. Basically, I got fucked.

Also, the funds that paid Drama came out my paypal account balance. I wish I had a $0 paypal balance and charged the items. Then I could have initiated a claim with the credit card company, but that's not how it worked out.

Keep ranting idiotically. I don't care; it brings the thread back to the top so everyone can see that Drama is a liar and a thief.

You covered yourself? Did you get a tracking #? Did you ask a specific sate when it would go out? Those a 2 very concrete ways to help cover yourself. Holding the seller accountable to those things and not accepting any excuses for not getting them out in a timely manner will help to prevent problems in the further.


I'm glad you don't get it because I can keep explaining it and others will see the post and know what to do when they have a transaction.:)

Heres some more things that you can do. Request pictures of the product.
Get the person's full name, work and home telephone if you have to. See if they have a ebay account you can review and if they are a paypal verified member.
I know that nothing is foolproof but be cautious if you feel uneasy about the transaction.

The only real gurantees in life are death and taxes and even taxes you can get out of.:)
Remember Miata Turbo, I am on your side.

L C X 7 01-29-07 01:25 PM

he also sold me a subframe that was supposed to be in great condition, turns out it was from a wrecked FD!!!

wont respond to emails.

90WhiteVrt 01-29-07 04:04 PM

Wow, sorry to hear that. I've purchased numerous things from Drama and never had a problem.

-TAL- 01-29-07 09:00 PM

i purchased a set of mirrors a while ago with no problems. Sorry to hear about this :(

Lord TISL 02-01-07 08:10 AM

:icon_tdow
 
i bought a turbo from him and at first had good communication and hazy shipping details but now he wont respond to me at all and i still dont have my turbo. I dont really expect to get it anymore...:icon_tdow :icon_tdow

gxl87turbo 02-01-07 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lord TISL
i bought a turbo from him and at first had good communication and hazy shipping details but now he wont respond to me at all and i still dont have my turbo. I dont really expect to get it anymore...:icon_tdow :icon_tdow

I understand your pain, but why the Fuck did you bump all of his Fucking for sale threads in the second gen section. Those threads are more then 2 months old, you just really pissed me off for doing that!

sonorous7 02-01-07 01:04 PM

yeah, I have purchased 2 things from drama, one of which was very rare and took me a while to find. No problems at all, sorry to hear about your trouble. I guess, as with any feedback system, a few negatives can ruin all your positives.. good luck

MiataTurbo 02-22-07 10:53 AM

Drama: Good Guy
 
Today, out of the blue, I received a money order from Drama. It was a refund for the $60 that he owed me, as well as a letter explaining his side of the story.

Thank you Drama. I apologize for my part in this misunderstanding, and am glad that things are getting better for you. Good luck with your new career.

Moderator, would you please lock this thread?

Unsupa 02-23-07 01:16 PM

I'll throw in one more good response. when i first bought my junker fc, my logicon was busted and i was freezing my ass off. drama hooked me up within 3 business days, quick smooth transaction, no BS anywhere.

DomFD3S 02-23-07 01:41 PM

So would you guys rather I just edit the thread title to something more positive? Locking it won't do anything, as thread is viewable. But seeing as drama has resolved those issues...what do you want me to do?

What would you like the thread title to say?

drama 02-23-07 09:05 PM

bad seller drama
 
Well where do i start, Ive had no computer for 2 months till tonight, My kids fucked up the last one, So yes I`ve had no real way to tell my side of the story, I have not had a job since in the end of march until, 12-23-06 I started a new one and so far so good, i`ve been there 9 weeks now I still have one person who is going to get a refund this week,The guy from Fl, with the purchase of the turbo.If you would please go through this thread and do away with the bad I would greatly appreciate it. I have always meant do to has good for everyone has i want to receive goods from others, If your not happy by all means please p.m. me and we can go from there,If i can keep my kids from the laptop it should stay running,They downloaded a shit load of music and it fried my hard drive, And without the funds to even pay back the ones on here, Then how the hell would i get another computer till now, I`am renting this one to own now,Good luck to all of you which have done business with me and i do hope we can do more in the future, I will be looking for some things for my 10th A.E. car very soon.//Louis//

MiataTurbo 02-24-07 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by DomFD3S
So would you guys rather I just edit the thread title to something more positive? Locking it won't do anything, as thread is viewable. But seeing as drama has resolved those issues...what do you want me to do?

What would you like the thread title to say?

Dom,
My opinion of Drama has certainly changed, and he has certainly earned my respect.
Whatever you feel is in the best interest in the forum is fine with me.

drama 02-24-07 09:46 PM

Thank You

joeylyrech 02-24-07 11:31 PM

i bought some parts of drama and never had a problem,bump for a good guy

Lord TISL 04-15-07 10:56 PM

it seems drama has gotten things worked out, he now communicates well and returned my money.

RotaryResurrection 04-16-07 01:40 PM

I bought a part from him recently and received it in perfect shape with fast shipping time.

Geauxkart 04-16-07 05:44 PM

Bought some misc parts from him last friday and they showed up early the next week. Good seller in my book.

mar3 04-18-07 10:46 AM

Should be a big thumb out there for the title...
 
drama is a good guy in my book....he sent me some FB OMP lines and the packing he did of those two delicate plastic lines to get them here uncrushed, unbent or even twisted...well, it was extraordinary and they made it in fantastic shape!! Shipping was extremely fast and communication was same day every step of the way. drama is a solid RX-7 Forum Club seller you can trust.

Many, many thanks for the lines, the junkyard ones are either gone or brittle from exposure...:cool:

Mario III

drama 04-18-07 12:35 PM

I must say I`am scared of this post,Thank You all for your sweet spoken words.
I spoke with the person who, started this thread just monday evening he told me he and his wife just had a new BABy, In the family Congratulations George, And your beloved,
//Louis//

VividMP5 04-19-07 11:46 PM

:icon_tup: DRAMA

Bought a few things from him without any complication. Great communication, fast shipping, items nicely packed and camed as described. Thanks Drama!!

RN's X-7 04-20-07 09:17 PM

I have to stand up for Drama I bought a window switch that was shipped fast, but did not match the one I had so he sent me two different ones without asking for the others back. Drama is an A+++++++ seller.

lvgadd 05-04-07 10:21 PM

Drama
 
Drama built my FD engine about three years ago, still going strong, been to several track day events, over 200 miles on the track a day at WFO!!!! no problems. He is now putting together a 89 n/a car for me for track events from the ground up, suspension, engine, roll bar, etc.

Subsparx 05-07-07 07:49 PM

Yeah, I have nothing bad to say about drama. AWESOME seller. I ordered an entire lock set, drivers door, passenger door, rear lock and ignition from him. Not only did I get a good price, but they were in immaculate condition. He also payed for faster shipping at no extra charge because of my situation (my locks were seized up in a way that you could turn the lock with your fingernail and unlock the door o.o). Absolutely awesome. Fast shipment, good communication, incredible service. Definitely will be buying from him again.


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