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rgordon1979 11-07-07 08:00 AM

Buyer/Seller beware. Collect before shipping!
 
On Tuesday, October 30, Matt Gagne of Sherman Oaks, California (matt g) agreed to buy a HKS T51R KAI turbo kit that I had for sale. We agreed on $3500.00. After several conversations I agreed that Matt could send half of the money ($1750) and he could send the other half plus shipping when he received the kit. I received the first $1750 on Friday, November 2. Matt received the kit on Saturday, November 3 via FedEx overnight. On Sunday Matt sent me a PM saying the box that the turbo was in looked like it had been run over. He also said that the hot side of the turbo was damaged. I immediately asked for pictures of the turbo and the box, neither of which I have seen. Matt also claimed that he was making a claim with FedEx. I contacted FedEx and they said no claim had been made on that tracking number.
The phone number that Matt was using to contact me has also been cut off. It says ‘The customer you are trying to call is not reachable, PTS6180.’
Mr. Gagne currently owes me $1750.00 for the remaining balance on the turbo kit and $377.74 for overnight shipping via FedEx.

I will be taking further action if I have not received my money by this Friday

The point of this post:
If you are dealing with Matt Gagne of Sherman Oaks, California, make sure you get your money first!!

eo2am 11-07-07 01:21 PM

thats fu**ed up, Im sure theres a few guys in the LA area that will look him for you.

rgordon1979 11-07-07 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eo2am (Post 7489089)
thats fu**ed up, Im sure theres a few guys in the LA area that will look him for you.

Yeah, pretty upset that someone would take advantage me when I trusted them like that.

FDTT19 11-07-07 04:02 PM

I met Matt while he lived here in CT a couple yrs ago and have spoken to him a couple times since he moved. He's a fairly decent dude though a little flakely from my experiences and don't really see him doing something like this. However, if he did its unexcusable, I hope everything gets resolved for you.

rgordon1979 11-07-07 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by FDTT19 (Post 7489630)
I met Matt while he lived here in CT a couple yrs ago and have spoken to him a couple times since he moved. He's a fairly decent dude though a little flakely from my experiences and don't really see him doing something like this. However, if he did its unexcusable, I hope everything gets resolved for you.

Thank you for chiming in. If you do speak to Matt will you ask him to contact me so we can get this resolved? Like I said, the phone number I was using has been disconected.

87 t-66 11-07-07 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by rgordon1979 (Post 7489761)
Thank you for chiming in. If you do speak to Matt will you ask him to contact me so we can get this resolved? Like I said, the phone number I was using has been disconected.

wow. YOU fucked up big time. why would you trust someone over the internet with that much money. anyone with half a brain wouldnt front some random person that much money.

FDTT19 11-07-07 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by rgordon1979 (Post 7489761)
Thank you for chiming in. If you do speak to Matt will you ask him to contact me so we can get this resolved? Like I said, the phone number I was using has been disconected.

I haven't spoken with him in 6-8 months so I don't know if the number I have still works but I'll give it a call in the next day or two for you and shoot him a pm and let you know if I hear anything.

rgordon1979 11-07-07 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by 87 t-66 (Post 7489986)
wow. YOU fucked up big time. why would you trust someone over the internet with that much money. anyone with half a brain wouldnt front some random person that much money.


The point of this thread is to keep other people from making the same mistake, but thanks for pointing out how stupid it was to put a little faith in someone.

saiyan 11-07-07 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by rgordon1979 (Post 7490364)
The point of this thread is to keep other people from making the same mistake, but thanks for pointing out how stupid it was to put a little faith in someone.

dayem!!! I would not send anything out without a full payment, I agree that it's also your mistake.. ANYWAY for 3500??? I would have send you the full payment for the kit.....I've been eyeballing this kit eversince you posted.. but oh well, good luck to you,..

eo2am 11-08-07 05:29 AM

I’m not saying to go kick his ass, but to verify the damage to the kit. ;)

rgordon1979 11-08-07 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by eo2am (Post 7491679)
I’m not saying to go kick his ass, but to verify the damage to the kit. ;)

Agreed!!:D

niburu 11-08-07 09:42 AM

with the amount of money involved were looking at felony level fraud
you may also have to contact the buyers local district attornees office
you've got his name, former cell#, and an address - he'll be fairly easy to track down by them

87 t-66 11-08-07 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by niburu (Post 7492066)
with the amount of money involved were looking at felony level fraud
you may also have to contact the buyers local district attornees office
you've got his name, former cell#, and an address - he'll be fairly easy to track down by them

if there was no written contact it might be difficult

zinch 11-08-07 03:53 PM

then again, if emails can be subpoenaed and used as evidence then i'm sure the agreements that were made via email might suffice

rgordon1979 11-08-07 04:11 PM

yeah, I have the written agreement stating that he will pay the remaining amount plus shipping charges.

If I don't receive payment by tomorrow I will be filing a claim against him.

rx7roller02 11-08-07 06:13 PM

you do not need a formal written agreement--all you need is the electronically sent communications, which means emails and PM's. This is important--if you have to print out any copies of these emails, be sure to display the full header before printing. That way, it will show the originating IP of the email, in other words it will prove that the emails were sent from his IP address and not faked on your end. In many cases this detail is not needed, but you never know when someone will claim you made it up, better to cover your back side from the start.

ajsm83 11-09-07 12:10 AM

I'm sorry to hear that,i hope everything works out for you

AcuraRacer112 11-11-07 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by 87 t-66 (Post 7492998)
if there was no written contact it might be difficult

nope very easy, going through contract law right now :-D

MaczPayne 11-11-07 10:50 PM

Any kind of agreement, written or not, is valid.

Sorry that you have to go through all this. I wish you luck in getting back what is yours.

Kerebrus 11-11-07 11:46 PM

Paypal will refund your money completely, you will win the claim, and he WILL be expected to pay back PAYPAL every dollar they give you in return. If he doesn't, they will take his amount owed to a collection agency, where they will go after him. Just keep up with paypal, you have nothing to worry about.

d0 Luck 11-12-07 01:15 AM

i've hung out w/ matt a couple of times... but never really knew the guy on a personal level. when i do see him around, i'll let him know. i'm in socal, close by where he lives.

K.ronic 11-12-07 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by Cbz (Post 7503148)
Paypal will refund your money completely, you will win the claim, and he WILL be expected to pay back PAYPAL every dollar they give you in return. If he doesn't, they will take his amount owed to a collection agency, where they will go after him. Just keep up with paypal, you have nothing to worry about.

LMAO! Your not very familiar with PayPal are you? If he has no money in his [PayPal] account, which you can just about 99% guarantee he does not, then no refund will be issued at all. PayPal will throw their hands up and say "Sorry, there is no money in his account" and the buyer is left to pursue the matter on his own. PAYPAL DOES NOT PROTECT BUYERS.

eo2am 11-12-07 07:22 AM

Thats right they will only give you what is in the account. I got screw over a few times and never seen a dime.

rgordon1979 11-12-07 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by d0 Luck (Post 7503328)
i've hung out w/ matt a couple of times... but never really knew the guy on a personal level. when i do see him around, i'll let him know. i'm in socal, close by where he lives.


Tell him I said hello if you see him...and that he will be hearing more from me.

Robin

matt g 11-14-07 12:25 AM

Dude your crazy i sent you a check. Pm me your phone number. like i told you befor i dont have a phone (i broke it)and im also in NYC


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