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Bean4G63 01-21-12 02:38 PM

4g63 fd
 
I picked up a 1993 Red R1 back in June without a motor. I have been slowly been making progress over the last few months and am in the process of getting it ready for a complete color change to Carbon Grey Metallic. I will be running a built 4G63 with a PTE6262 and should easily make 550-600whp on straight pump gas. I will be using an AEM v2 box for an ECU. The traction control and boost by gear should help put the power to the ground. I am keeping the RX7 trans + rear end. I will also have power steering and A/C. I am building it to be a fun street car. Here are some pics of the progress so far:

Mock up motor installed:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-33-39_838.jpg

Turbo manifold:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-37-24_499.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-22-44_204.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-55-29_851.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-34-22_377.jpg

6 bolt DSM flywheel machined for Exedy Triple Disc:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-02-00_287.jpg

Custom FMIC:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-42-31_280.jpg

Motor Mounts:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-04-30_965.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-04-22_851.jpg

Car primed and ready for paint:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-20-41_304.jpg

wizzurp 01-21-12 02:48 PM

D50/mighty max tranny or a bell housing adapter? Looks like it'll be fun :)

flyboy333 01-21-12 03:05 PM

Wow, seems very thorough and way interesting! Definitely want to see how this unfolds

Bean4G63 01-21-12 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by wizzurp (Post 10946203)
D50/mighty max tranny or a bell housing adapter? Looks like it'll be fun :)

Im running a B2600 bellhousing. I originally was going to put a wideblock 4g63 in it but since they are hard to find and I had three or four narrowblocks lying around I decided to go with the narrowblock and an adapterplate. I also didn't like the way the wideblock sat at an angle when bolted to the bellhousing so I stood it straight up with the adapter plate.

Bean4G63 01-21-12 03:34 PM

Valve cover, intake manifold, and other small items are at the powder coater now. I just picked up some missing interior plastics from Fritz yesterday so there are only a few small items left and the interior will be complete. Once the car is painted I will be going they the stock main harness, cleaning it up, and re-looming it the best I can.

just startn 01-21-12 04:10 PM

Nice!!!. Pics of the shifter hole please? I am very very very interested in the turbo manifold setup. It looks like it sucks the turbo close enough to the block to fit in a Colt. Any dimesions, solidoworks ect. of the mani?

Bean4G63 01-21-12 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by just startn (Post 10946324)
Nice!!!. Pics of the shifter hole please? I am very very very interested in the turbo manifold setup. It looks like it sucks the turbo close enough to the block to fit in a Colt. Any dimesions, solidoworks ect. of the mani?

Im using the stock trans, driveshaft, and rear so the shifter is still in the stock location. The manifold is made from 1.5" schedule 10 stainless. I don't have any drawings as I don't draw any of them before hand. I have an idea in my head that I just go with and tweak it till I'm happy with how it looks.

Len-Len 01-21-12 05:09 PM

You fucker! I was debating on doing this swap to my shell but decided to stay rotary. Seeing you do it to your car makes me wanna change my mind again. Very nice!

just startn 01-21-12 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bean4G63 (Post 10946364)
Im using the stock trans, driveshaft, and rear so the shifter is still in the stock location. The manifold is made from 1.5" schedule 10 stainless. I don't have any drawings as I don't draw any of them before hand. I have an idea in my head that I just go with and tweak it till I'm happy with how it looks.

IC. were do you order your yubing from?

Bean4G63 01-21-12 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by lh6601 (Post 10946379)
You fucker! I was debating on doing this swap to my shell but decided to stay rotary. Seeing you do it to your car makes me wanna change my mind again. Very nice!

Thanks. I've been talking about doing it for a long time. Just never could pull the trigger on it. Haha!

Bean4G63 01-21-12 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by just startn (Post 10946400)
IC. were do you order your yubing from?

I buy the schedule 10 stainless from Mcmaster carr and the aluminum bends are Vibrant.

dbragg 01-21-12 10:41 PM

I love this swap. Debated doing it a few times, probably will do it in some rx7 at some point. Keep up the good work.

just startn 01-21-12 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by aws140 (Post 10946768)
I love this swap. Debated doing it a few times, probably will do it in some rx7 at some point. Keep up the good work.

Im trying to do it in a fb.

dbragg 01-22-12 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by just startn (Post 10946821)
Im trying to do it in a fb.

From my research, it shouldn't be that hard of a swap to accomplish, all things considered.

Not trying to thread jack, but here is a great source of info for anyone looking to get into this:

http://www.projectzerog.com/

Bean4G63 01-22-12 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by aws140 (Post 10947186)
From my research, it shouldn't be that hard of a swap to accomplish, all things considered.

Not trying to thread jack, but here is a great source of info for anyone looking to get into this:

http://www.projectzerog.com/

Projectzerog.com has some real good info. That website is how I found out about the B2600 truck bellhousing. Motor swaps are not hard, they just take alot of time and custom fab work. I have done quite a few of them and finally decided to do one for myself. I figured that if I could fit a 2jz in a 300zx then fitting the 4g63 in an FD should be much easier. :)

CKxx 01-23-12 09:00 AM

This is being built over at TurboTrix, correct? I'll have to check it out sometime. I'm doing a 2J car about an hour away near Philly.

Bean4G63 01-23-12 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by CKxx (Post 10948455)
This is being built over at TurboTrix, correct? I'll have to check it out sometime. I'm doing a 2J car about an hour away near Philly.

Correct. Swing by if your in the area.

Bean4G63 01-24-12 08:45 PM

Modified my fuel pump sender and installed a Walbro 400 pump today. I welded a -8an fitting to the end of the feed line and ran 10 gauge power and ground directly to the pump.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-38-19_202.jpg

Narfle 01-24-12 09:55 PM

What are you going to do for a sub-frame?

Bean4G63 01-25-12 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Barban (Post 10951027)
What are you going to do for a sub-frame?

Subframe is done. I modified the stock one.

SOB Racing 01-29-12 09:07 PM

I've been looking at doing this as well, can't find a B2600 bellhousing very easily.

Bean4G63 01-30-12 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by SOB Racing (Post 10957965)
I've been looking at doing this as well, can't find a B2600 bellhousing very easily.


Go on car-part.com and search that site. They had a few of them when I got mine.

SOB Racing 01-30-12 09:23 PM

Cool Thanks!

BADSVN2000 01-30-12 09:38 PM

this is def very original, good on you for doing the conversion. Im a rotary fanatic but i fully appreciate what you are doing, hell ive help put rotaries in so many different types of vehicles what you are doing is no different! keep it up :)

Bean4G63 02-01-12 10:09 PM

Got half the car painted today. We will hopefully be finishing the last half tomorrow. Then I can put it back together and start on the wiring.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l.../IMG957284.jpg

jager_addict 02-04-12 04:08 PM

Looks good man! I'm just finishing up my sbc fc project. Well I haven't started the body yet, but I need to get a cage before that. My buddy did this swap in his fc. That car would pull the front end with slicks on it. Whoever asked about the headers for a colt, look up shearer in cleveland. That's one of their specialties.

dvo 02-06-12 12:59 AM

nice! cool to see something like this!

just startn 02-06-12 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by jager_addict (Post 10965942)
Looks good man! I'm just finishing up my sbc fc project. Well I haven't started the body yet, but I need to get a cage before that. My buddy did this swap in his fc. That car would pull the front end with slicks on it. Whoever asked about the headers for a colt, look up shearer in cleveland. That's one of their specialties.

Lol westlake huh. I know Ron, he makes no manis for the colts. Can You believe that...CLE is home of the colts :lol:. You can use other dsm manis but it positions the turbo in weird spots.

Bean4G63 02-15-12 08:27 PM

I decided to refinish my interior plastics since they were pretty beat. I used Duplicolor Adhesion promoter, flat black vinyl/fabric paint, and clear coat. Here are some pics.

Before:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-15-34_551.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-15-56_625.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-16-10_818.jpg

After:


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-11-27_314.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-13-23_879.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-13-29_326.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-22-05_554.jpg

4G63FD 02-17-12 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Bean4G63 (Post 10946189)
I picked up a 1993 Red R1 back in June without a motor. I have been slowly been making progress over the last few months and am in the process of getting it ready for a complete color change to Carbon Grey Metallic. I will be running a built 4G63 with a PTE6262 and should easily make 550-600whp on straight pump gas. I will be using an AEM v2 box for an ECU. The traction control and boost by gear should help put the power to the ground. I am keeping the RX7 trans + rear end. I will also have power steering and A/C. I am building it to be a fun street car. Here are some pics of the progress so far:

Mock up motor installed:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-33-39_838.jpg

Turbo manifold:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-37-24_499.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-22-44_204.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-55-29_851.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-34-22_377.jpg

6 bolt DSM flywheel machined for Exedy Triple Disc:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-02-00_287.jpg

Custom FMIC:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-42-31_280.jpg

Motor Mounts:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-04-30_965.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-04-22_851.jpg

Car primed and ready for paint:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-20-41_304.jpg

Nice Job man. Been working on mine for like five years, just been so busy with life I never got it finished. But how did you get the motor to sit so low, I had to cut my hood.

4G63FD 02-17-12 04:17 PM

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indispeed 02-17-12 06:16 PM

both cars look great!!! i'm considering putting my evo motor in my 1gen rx7....
good luck and keep up the excellent work!!

flyboy333 02-17-12 06:27 PM

Dude, that is sexyfunctional, I like your 302 throttle body haha

4G63FD 02-18-12 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by flyboy333 (Post 10983647)
Dude, that is sexyfunctional, I like your 302 throttle body haha

Thanks man. Not showing off or anything, but I was actually the first one I know of to put a 4G63 in a FD. Way before MAPerformance and anyone else. My motor was sitting in the shell I bought since 2006. But since I never finished it(wiring etc), I'm actually the last to do it...lol. Life happened for me, moving twice, buying properties, changing careers and now a divorce. The car sat untouched at one point for 3 years. I hope to get it running before 2012 is out though.

Bean4G63 02-18-12 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by 4G63FD (Post 10983496)
Nice Job man. Been working on mine for like five years, just been so busy with life I never got it finished. But how did you get the motor to sit so low, I had to cut my hood.

I just modified the stock subframe and dropped the steering rack. There were a bunch of things with this build that were "must have" for me.

1. Stock Hood. I hate the way any aftermarket hoods look on the FD.
2. Stock Gauge cluster. I like the way the stock gauges look and wanted to keep them all functional
3. Power steering. I feel its a must for a street car
4. A/C. Another must for a street car. Nobody likes driving around while their nuts do the backstroke in their underwear. :lol:
5. Stock DSM cam sensor. Its always worked for me and I am not a fan of the aftermarket crank trigger setups.
6. Stock Thermostate housing. I didn't want to have any cooling issues so it only made sense to keep the system cooling the way it does stock.

Bean4G63 02-18-12 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by 4G63FD (Post 10984105)
Thanks man. Not showing off or anything, but I was actually the first one I know of to put a 4G63 in a FD. Way before MAPerformance and anyone else. My motor was sitting in the shell I bought since 2006. But since I never finished it(wiring etc), I'm actually the last to do it...lol. Life happened for me, moving twice, buying properties, changing careers and now a divorce. The car sat untouched at one point for 3 years. I hope to get it running before 2012 is out though.

There is a video of 4G63 in an FD on youtube. He has the stock gauges working, stock hood etc. Video is from a year or two ago. I know I'm not the first to do it and I definitely won't be the last since the 4G63 is such a bad ass motor. They will pretty much make 550+ whp on pump gas by accident. :)

Kunz111 02-18-12 09:22 PM

Wow very nice work. 4G63 is def a motor made to make some power, if you build them right. haha There is a local performance company that has a 4G64 in a FD that has over 1000whp. The company is called Maperformance.

4G63FD 02-19-12 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bean4G63 (Post 10984741)
There is a video of 4G63 in an FD on youtube. He has the stock gauges working, stock hood etc. Video is from a year or two ago. I know I'm not the first to do it and I definitely won't be the last since the 4G63 is such a bad ass motor. They will pretty much make 550+ whp on pump gas by accident. :)

Yeah I saw the video. I think its because you guys are using a modified factory subframe. I used the Granny's speed shop V8 subframe then modified it, just so I can go V8 later if I wanted. But the 1" higher mine sits wont really make a difference. I'm using a full TEC3R standalone and a Painless elecrtical harness. The tach and speedo will work fine 'cause I have a have a speedo adapter and I have aftermarket gauges for the others. And dude...the 4G63 is the most awesome 4cyl turbo engine on the planet. I've been into them since the late 90's and I've seen them make 1000+ hp easily. You chose wisely..lol

Bean4G63 03-03-12 12:13 PM

Got the FMIC and AC condensor painted flat black and mounted today. Bump steer kit is modified and done, Sway bar is spaced, both steering rack boots are changed. Cut fittings on oil cooler and welded -8an fittings to it. Mounted oil cooler, brake master and clutch master cylinder. Painted calipers black, had rotors cut, installed new pads and stainless lines. I will be making my own ABS delete kit. The lines and valves came in yesterday but I am just waiting for a few fittings before I can install it. I also ran tthe fuel line from the sender to the fuel filter. Hoping to start the wiring this week so its all ready to go when I put the motor in.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...7-26-10_23.jpg

JKim0901 03-04-12 11:45 PM

Nice work on the manifold!

The Laser 03-10-12 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by 4G63FD (Post 10985123)
Yeah I saw the video. I think its because you guys are using a modified factory subframe. I used the Granny's speed shop V8 subframe then modified it, just so I can go V8 later if I wanted. But the 1" higher mine sits wont really make a difference. I'm using a full TEC3R standalone and a Painless elecrtical harness. The tach and speedo will work fine 'cause I have a have a speedo adapter and I have aftermarket gauges for the others. And dude...the 4G63 is the most awesome 4cyl turbo engine on the planet. I've been into them since the late 90's and I've seen them make 1000+ hp easily. You chose wisely..lol

dont say that around the honduh guys. they will say crankwalk all day :jerkit::lol:

Bean4G63 03-10-12 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by The Laser (Post 11011937)
dont say that around the honduh guys. they will say crankwalk all day :jerkit::lol:

Yeah, the 7 bolt DSM motor had an issue with crankwalk. I'm using the 6Bolt DSM motor. :)

Bean4G63 03-10-12 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by JKim0901 (Post 11005114)
Nice work on the manifold!

Thanks.

The Laser 03-11-12 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Bean4G63 (Post 11012067)
Yeah, the 7 bolt DSM motor had an issue with crankwalk. I'm using the 6Bolt DSM motor. :)

The 92.5-97 had major problems with crank walk. 98-99 they changed the thrush bearings which caused the problem in the first place.

BeatupVR4 03-14-12 01:07 PM

Is there any chance you have pictures of the adapter plate you made?

SOB Racing 03-15-12 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by BeatupVR4 (Post 11016928)
Is there any chance you have pictures of the adapter plate you made?


I'd like to see it too.

Bean4G63 03-16-12 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by SOB Racing (Post 11018660)
I'd like to see it too.

I dont have any good pics. I'll take some when I put the motor in.

Bean4G63 03-26-12 07:17 PM

Got my ABS delete installed. I ended up making the kit myself. I got the proportioning valve from chase bays.com and the lines/fittings from anplumbing.com. I also got my stainless clutch line from anplumbing.com since they sell pre-made -3an hose. I'm happy with the way it came out. I also finished my enigne harness and started cleaning up the stock harness and tucking/wire looming the ugly stuck harness. I'm still waiting for my rods to come in before I can put the motor in. Here are some pics of the ABS delete.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-02-14_982.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-02-29_805.jpg

BeatupVR4 03-28-12 08:50 PM

Hook a fellow DSMer up with a shot of that adapter plate. I have a bunch of spare 4G63 stuff and an S4 with a bad motor. You do the math. :) I have a lead on a G54B bellhousing too.

Bean4G63 04-06-12 10:12 PM

Here is a picture of the adapter plate:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-43-42_555.jpg

I am getting closer to finishing the car. The wiring is 85% done. I trimmed, loomed, and tucked the main stock harness. The engine harness is ran into the engine bay. I ended up running it up the driver side and have it coming out under the the hole in the side of the engine bay under the brake booster. AEM, injector driver box, ignitor, and relays are all mounted in the trunk and wired. I need the motor in so I can run the wires to the alternator and starter and finish the mount for the battery. The motor is on the stand but I am still waiting on the rods which will be another two weeks before I can finish assembly.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...-39-05_967.jpg


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