4G63 + B2600 Bell Housing + TII Tranny
yah yah, I'm talking about a piston engine, but this has to do with a TII tranny so thats why it's here in the 2nd gen forum
from my understanding Mazda B2600 trucks used Mitsubishi 4G64 engines and basically TII tranny's and also, as fas as I have read, is that if you take a 4G63 (Talon engine) bolt it upto a B2600 Bell Housing it will fit a RX7 Tranny and wola, 4g63 rx7 with obvious modifications to engine parts no, I dont plan on doing this.. I just want more info on this.. all I have found is one thread talking about it.. has anyone ever done this? or any confirmed information? |
They only used that mitsu motor for one year. 1987. After that it was a mazda motor. Make sure you're lookin at the right year of truck :D
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hm... starion transmitions are able to bolt to a 4g63
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TII tranny bolts to the 4g63 with the WIDE bellhousing version of the block.
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anyone else know anything about this?
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Originally Posted by hotfd3s
yep, thats what I had planned.. now I just need to find a old truck that has one of those bastards.. it will make it easier to use the 4G64, build it, and throw a turbo head on I assume thats the 4g64 clutch and flywheel in there? do you know if the ones on 4g63's are the same? |
have fun making a new oilpan that is rear pickup......
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meh, oil pans aren't exactly hard to build.....
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Some non-US Starions came with a variant of the 4G63 and they should have a rear sump oil pan. If you are serious about this, you might want to give Buschur racing a call or email. They had a kit for throwing 4g63s in Starions/Conquests and I'm sure they could lead you in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by Skele4door
Some non-US Starions came with a variant of the 4G63 and they should have a rear sump oil pan. If you are serious about this, you might want to give Buschur racing a call or email. They had a kit for throwing 4g63s in Starions/Conquests and I'm sure they could lead you in the right direction.
and yes a oil pan and sump would be a problem, but probably easy to fabricate. and I'll look up Buschur racing!, thanks. I also discoverd that you can use aftermarket 4g63 pistons with the 4G64.. they just have to be .60 over, which are avalable from anyone. |
You can find the oil pan also in Mightymax pick up truck and the dodge version of it, I think it was call the D40?
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Originally Posted by Heliumrush5
You can find the oil pan also in Mightymax pick up truck and the dodge version of it, I think it was call the D40?
does anyone have any pictures of one installed? I still have yet to find any.. I want to make sure the head will clear the firewall while keeping the tranny in the stock location. In that picture the cam angle sensor seems to be sticking out alot! |
You on your own on that. I believe that it will clear, but I have no desire to do this kind of swap, just passing on what info I know. I deal setup is a wideblock 4g64 with a turbo 4g63 head on it. 4G64 is basically a 4G63 with IIRC 2mm higher deck height and bit more bore.
If you go junkyard diving you should almost enough parts make everything close. If you like, I might be able to take some messurements this weekend. Just tell me what you need. |
Originally Posted by Heliumrush5
If you like, I might be able to take some messurements this weekend. Just tell me what you need.
but depending on the width of it, that will change the position of the engine. either closer of further away from the firewall. but from where the back of the rotary is sitting right now, it looks like there should be just enough room. |
I don't have a B2600 bellhousing, but I can measure a wide block 4G64 though.
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Originally Posted by owen is fat
have fun making a new oilpan that is rear pickup......
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Eh, the DSM's have been well into the 10's on the stock ECU with piggu backs....
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hey im a starion owner and the tranny used in a staion is a mazda tranny just call amco and thet will tell you that. mine car is a 87 but is an auto but if you need a motor and stuff i could sell the whole car for like 500. the tranny in it is busted though. I thought about puttin the tranny out of my 7 into it but i would need alot more than just a tranny
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Originally Posted by fcdrifter13
hey im a starion owner and the tranny used in a staion is a mazda tranny just call amco and thet will tell you that. mine car is a 87 but is an auto but if you need a motor and stuff i could sell the whole car for like 500. the tranny in it is busted though. I thought about puttin the tranny out of my 7 into it but i would need alot more than just a tranny
I can get the engine for about $1500 cdn. the 4G64 route is a good one, but now I'm thinking it will be too much work to find internals. whats the engine code from your starion? |
Too much work to find internals? The pistons are 4g63 overbored (.030 I believe) and the rods are exactly the same.
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