Hey mickey, I am wondering is there any reason the subframe that you built is not symeyrical, and is crooked? I don't mean to cut your's, or who evers work down, but I am just wondering if there is a reason behind that.


And also, I 've never looked at an FD's front sub frame, but why did you make a new sub frame? I'm putting a 7MGTE on a stock TII subframe. And the A-frame is the right height, but the sway bar, and rack and pinion are a little high. And if my motor sits any lower the oil pan's sump would be lower than the sub frame.

there is no reason it is not symeyrical. we just cut and fit as needed. the next frame will look awesome...but for now we just made the car work. the next step is to draw it up in cad and have them professionally done.

Ohhh, OK.

Thats f**king beautiful!!! Congrats to you Mikey you should be very proud. And by the way this is one of my first times in this section and im wondering why is thier always a couple of people that seem to have an urge to write what their bad opinions like anybody really gives a shit about what they think. I love FDs and love rotaries but i think that this UPGRADE or MOD is sweet as hell. I just dont understand why they have a problem with what someone else does to thier car, especially when the numbers show his hot rod SHOULD destroy most fully modded 7s.

Hey,Can you tell me were I can buy that kit from???
ANd how much to do a 2jz swap thanks or send me a email at carzmetic@aol.com
thanks...:eek:

hey 20B junkie, go tell SP Engineering that their Supra 7 is gay and i think they would laugh in your face. that has to be one of the best conversions. nice work, how much power are you lookin to get?

Mikey.... Do you have any future plans of selling 2JZ-FD subframes? Also how well does it fit? Can you close a stock hood? The SP Supra7 is a cool idea, but it looks like shit IMO. I want to do a 20B in the future, but to be perfectly honest.... I'd rather have a 2JZ or an RB26... How are you wiring up the gauges? What kind of engine management do you have planed? Haltech, Motec? What tranny? Custom shaft? Share the details...

Hey, can you get some pictures of how you did the tranny cross member?

I need to see some.

Well, I guess it will make an ok drag car, but that's about it. The weight distribution and steering geometry will be FUBAR. Notice how much of the engine is past the front wheels?

An LS-1 swap is a MUCH, MUCH better idea if you are going to put a boinger in an FD.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh, and I'm not insulting the engineering. I just don't agree with the goal.

BTW, I think it's pretty damn funny that all these people are asking you for kit info when the car isn't even close to running....:eek:

I'm not asking for a kit... I merely asked if he had planed on selling the subframe. From his posts, thats what it sounded like what he had planed on doing... I would rather have a 20B, but who has that kind of money laying around... A friend of mine is building a 26B out of two 13Bs... He already has an adaptor plate and a custom eccentric shaft... If we/he finds that the 26B can be built fairly cheap, I'll build one of those... Hell, I'll build a 4 rotor out of some 12As or 10As if need be...

haha i always forget to get on here and update...well the car is coming along GREAT! and i'll try to get to everybodys emails answered....i am just really flooded w/ stuff lately. but thanks for the replies!

hey i live in Yukon/mustang Oklahoma and have a brother at uco. I was wondering if i could come by and look at that sometime? thx that is cool

any time you want....just let me know

How much for the kit? email: goalhan@yahoo.com

-mike

Please Email me to on how much the kit is please! thanks
Japexacian@msn.com

Before you guys get all excited about a 2JZ kit, you better have a look at what a 2JZ costs! It ain't cheap!

so any word on the weight distribution?

I can't find the weight of a 2jz anywhere. The twin setup on them probably at least weigh 50-60 pounds though. I personally called SP a little over a year ago, to ask if they could do another Supra-7. They wanted $30,000 for it. I provided car and motor/tranny. Needless to say, I hung up with them, and caled Hinson Supercars right away.

I still wish I would have found Mikey earlier though. I hope that he does eventually start making (or let someone else buy his design) sub frames for this swap. I would pull my LS1 out the day that I saw they were for sale.

LMAO thats great. Well i would be intersted to know the distribution rather than just the weight it would add. Cause the ls1 keeps close to 50/50. I would be intersted to know if the 2jz would be anywhere close to 50/50 or what.

Isn't the LS1 better than a Supra engine due to weight, weight distribution and engine height>

Im pretty sure a pushrod, aluminum v8 is going to be hella lighter than a DOHC, iron I6. And its gonna stick out past the strut towers too ;)

Yeah thats what i was thinking. Still intersted though

A small single on a 2JZ-GTE would weigh around 50-60 lbs more than an N/A (not applicable) LS1. Plus the HP potential goes through the roof at that point.

Eric

Cowboy bebop - just what exactly is the point youre trying to make? Both have pretty high HP potentials, and any turbo a supra uses could be put into a LS1 that has almost twice the displacement, and thus much sooner spoolup and more off the line power - none of this race from a roll bullshit.

There is a lot more support behind doing a LS swap than a 2JZ into a rx-7, not to mention it would probably be cheaper. Im not trying to shit on the 2jz here but fanboying over that engine is kind of ridiculous. The aftermarket is also not only domestic but cheaper and more varied. Beisdes, I cant even think of a single 2jz swapper, while I can point you to a whole damn forum for v8 swappers: torquecentral.

A stroker kit for a 2JZ is several thousand dollars. One for a v8 can be had for under 1k, easy. Fuck, HKS wants 10K for its stroker kit for the 2JZ! What kind of bullshit is that? 10K is completely ridiculous. It also has DOHC heads and two cams vs pushrod heads and a single cam. Changing out cams is a cheaper and simpler affair, too.

You gotta pay to play, but you can pay a HELL OF A LOT less if you chose wisely, and have more options with what you can do.

Oh, and when youre dealing with realisitc power levels, the LS1 is going to simply whomp on the 2jz in terms of streetability and low end. If youre going to do batshit insane dragracing then you could go with a 2jz, just get an auto with a really high slip RPM :P
(btw, sorry to bust your bubble, but BOVs dont do shit with autos, they shift at WOT)

You're making conflicting statements in every breath.

You want lowend of the LS1, but talk about streetability. You ever see one of those cammed out, hood shaking big blocks pushing 4 digit HP? You ever see one try and drive redlight to redlight like a normal person instead of an impromtu drag race? Nearly impossible. A 4 digit 2JZ on the other hand...a kitten can drive it below a certain rpm. And if you're racing in the low end, then you're going to get what you get.

You talk of the cheap way out with the LS1 and site the HKS Stroker kits cost of 10K to point that the 2JZ is sky high to mod. That's ignorant of reality. The thruth is that to squeeze HP out of the LS1, now you're talking cam, stroker, heads, ect. And after all that time, material, and money has been thrown at it, won't you cry and sob when a 2JZ rockets past you with no more modifications that a piggyback, and sigle turbo... S0 we see that for FAR less, a 2JZ can make BIG HP, as in 700rwhp, then be tossed into a light frame, as in the RX7 or S13. I don't know what sort of "options" you're looking for, but I'll take my HP option any day of the week, I'll see your slow ass in the funny papers.

As for the bandwagon mentality of "no ones doing 2JZ swaps, but everyone seems to embrace the LS1.', that's the kind of thinking that a Noob with no experience would pay attention to. I have a freind doing an LS1 swap in an RX7 now, and you know why she went that route? Everyone she talked with told her that was best.... Sad isn't it, really sad.

Eric