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ElitetunerzRx7 02-08-09 03:28 AM

1jz rx7 swap?
 
Hey i know rotorys are amazing but i was wondering how much work the cost and dificulty of a 1jz swap into an fc? I havent heard much about it but found it on car domain. any ideas?

Hypertek 02-08-09 03:32 AM

this is the man you want to talk to
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-rx-7-1986-1992-vehicles-108/fs-1989-1jz-gte-rx7-freshly-painted-1-week-ago-809205/

ElitetunerzRx7 02-08-09 03:54 AM

damn dude lol thats the guy i found on cardomain. haha so far thats the only one ive seen with the swap. i pmed him tho thanks for the help.

patman 02-23-09 11:45 AM

a friend of mine (red87tll) is working on one, I made all his mounts for him. It isnt a real easy swap, you ahve to cut the firewall to get the engine in the right place, but it is doable

93rx74lyfe 02-23-09 12:39 PM

2JZ or bust!

w_opt7 02-23-09 01:01 PM

1jz
 
you DON'T need to cut the firewall! LOL 1jz is a more reliable than 2jz or 7m. One of my friends has a 1jz in his fc with 500 rwhp on stock block fcd and apexi safc single turbo.

ehime 02-23-09 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by w_opt7 (Post 8990523)
you DON'T need to cut the firewall! LOL 1jz is a more reliable than 2jz or 7m. One of my friends has a 1jz in his fc with 500 rwhp on stock block fcd and apexi safc single turbo.

plus one, only reason im cuttin mine is for a rhd swap. this conversion is very ez as far as swaps go

patman 02-23-09 09:26 PM

you do if you want to keep any kind of reasonable weight distribution....

TurboII RudeBoy 02-25-09 01:05 PM

bullshit, didn't cut my firewall and cyl 1 and 2 are the only ones in front of my strut towers, corner weighted and balanced my car is 51/49 in my fc. post facts not speculation.

ehime 02-27-09 10:50 PM

Amen Turbo.

NoPistons! 05-03-09 03:36 AM

Oh snap.

Glad a read this thread.

I was hella worried about weight balance.

In terms of cost with the jz swap, i found the non vtak (It's all vtak to me....fucking variable valve timing bullshit) versions to be cheaper. The 1jzgtte and 2jzgtte motors cost about the same but most are coupled to an automatic.

Shipped to the front door, a jz motor with all the bells and whistles coupled to a 5 speed transmission will cost about $2600.

An engine alone for aroung $850-1100.

The www.2jzswap.com swap kit with all the "gorilla work" parts is $1500.

So if you're really, really really crafty, the swap can be done for about $4k.

If you're really lazy and hate headaches, about $5,500 which isn't bad all things considered.

If all goes well, i will be ordering a jz/5speed swap next year and buying the kit parts little by little. It looks very worthwhile and a great alternative to a v8 swap. Reliable power, great sound, good mileage and best of all, PEACE OF MIND.

I"m going to rotary hell when i die. Especially b/c of my screen name.

SmogSUX 05-04-09 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by TurboII RudeBoy (Post 8997262)
bullshit, didn't cut my firewall and cyl 1 and 2 are the only ones in front of my strut towers, corner weighted and balanced my car is 51/49 in my fc. post facts not speculation.

I don't see how you ended up with 51/49...are you using the huge tremec 6 speed transmission to put more weight behind the firewall?

NoPistons! 05-05-09 02:11 PM

Depends how much weight he shed up front and how big his speakers are in the hatch!

Whats a Piston 07-23-09 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by NoPistons! (Post 9183733)
Depends how much weight he shed up front and how big his speakers are in the hatch!

well done sir

danegerous 02-17-10 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by TurboII RudeBoy (Post 8997262)
bullshit, didn't cut my firewall and cyl 1 and 2 are the only ones in front of my strut towers, corner weighted and balanced my car is 51/49 in my fc. post facts not speculation.

Total boner dude.

*TOUCH* 02-19-10 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by NoPistons! (Post 9177283)

I"m going to rotary hell when i die. Especially b/c of my screen name.

haha, dont you have another thread asking abt a KA fc?? you should change your screen name to YESpistons haha.

anyway, this is a hell of a good choice for a swap, 1j or 2j if you have the $$. the one question i have for those of you who have done this swap: exactly how did you get this long ass motor to fit under an fc's hood?? i saw a thread where one guy cut his hood so that some of the jz's timing cover was exposed and ive hear of ppl banging the shit out of the firewall and tranny tunnel, cutting the firewall, lowering the front subframe, etc. how did you guys do it and how hard was it because from what ive read (and i could be wrong) thats the toughest part to this swap is just making it fit. thanks ahead of time

MazdaJzX7 02-22-10 07:24 PM

Hey i'm currently in the process of this build i will supply as many photos as possible

Sketch_hs 02-23-10 12:11 AM

aww no mention of my build???? :(

2ndgencab 02-23-10 12:48 AM

There was an fc on craigslist that had a 1jz swap in it. It was here in the Sacramento area in Ca. Looked bad ass! Good luck if you decide to go that route!

MazdaJzX7 02-23-10 11:03 PM

yeah ive seen a few Fd's with the swap, and these guys claim its freaking awesome, and have only seen 1 fc on youtube with the completed swap. I've spoken to Chris over at Tech2Motorsports, has owns an fc with a jz swap, daily driven, SCCA. He doesnt regret it one bit. I'm already 6k In to this project, of course that includes many upgrades along the way, but i'm pretty excited. It's on hold because I'm currently in Okinawa Japan till the end of March

MazdaJzX7 02-23-10 11:09 PM

oh with the swap kit from tech2 there is no cutting of the fire wall or tunnel. Of course the jz long ass block is tucked right up against it but I'll post some photos. Its clean, very clean at that. It was rather simple. I raised the car and bolted the crossmember to the engine, then dropped the car on to the motor. the kit comes with a shifter extention new tranny mounts, bolted right up. and the aluminum drive shaft was a perfect fit.

danegerous 02-23-10 11:16 PM

Waiting on pics bro!

TurboMazdaSpeed 02-24-10 12:22 AM

1j ftw
 
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heres a really early pic of mine in my fd, VVTI motor. almost doneeee

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._7646079_n.jpg

https://i164.photobucket.com/albums/...00205-1305.jpg

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Sketch_hs 02-27-10 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndgencab (Post 9823412)
There was an fc on craigslist that had a 1jz swap in it. It was here in the Sacramento area in Ca. Looked bad ass! Good luck if you decide to go that route!

That was mine! I'm building a 1jz 280z now :D

I sold the car to some kid from AZ... lucky kid that car was awesome.

*TOUCH* 02-27-10 02:23 PM

1jz 280z??! nice, im a little more modest and am working on a turbo L28 240z now haha

huntingcorn 02-27-10 05:09 PM

turbospeedmazda..
i have a spare 1j vvti ecu if you want it. got it with my non vvti motor. it DOES work nd its in good condition...
anyways....
http://i46.tinypic.com/2gx309s.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/4tnf2d.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/x5vyaq.jpg

Bwek 02-27-10 05:19 PM

Video or ban!!!

what are the specs on the wheels?

huntingcorn 02-27-10 05:25 PM

lol no video yet. once i get all my guages in im taking it back to the shop and were finishing it all in one day so after then.

fn's 17x10 all around. front +17 (25 but 8mm spacers.)
rear +5 (15 but 10mm spacers)

TurboMazdaSpeed 02-27-10 08:45 PM

beautiful swap. ill let you kno about the ecu.. as far as i know so far mines the right one for me.. 5spd 1jz vvti ecu :)

fstbckgt 03-07-10 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Sketch_hs (Post 9833545)
That was mine! I'm building a 1jz 280z now :D

I sold the car to some kid from AZ... lucky kid that car was awesome.

I am indeed lucky, but I'll probly be back in Hawaii next year and idk if im going to ship the 1J FC or not. If someone really wanted it id probly sell so I wouldnt have to spend $800-1000 to ship it to the islands, but we'll see

*TOUCH* 03-08-10 08:46 AM

i guess sketchhs and/or fstbackgt could answer this: i remember reading your build thread but i cant recall what you did with the hood (i remember that you had clearance issues), did you cut it out or what?? just curious

fstbckgt 03-08-10 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by *TOUCH* (Post 9853246)
i guess sketchhs and/or fstbackgt could answer this: i remember reading your build thread but i cant recall what you did with the hood (i remember that you had clearance issues), did you cut it out or what?? just curious

sketch cut it...looks good though
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*TOUCH* 03-09-10 04:25 PM

hey thats not bad at all!! coud you post some engine bay pics?? thanks

fstbckgt 03-09-10 07:48 PM

https://i612.photobucket.com/albums/...6/FC/FCBAY.jpg

FC_EDDIE 03-10-10 05:22 PM

great thread...good info... notes taken.

*TOUCH* 03-11-10 10:05 AM

hot damn that makes me wanna entertain the thought of doing this swap on my own fc again just when im abt to get my rebuilt 13b back....thanks!

Sketch_hs 03-11-10 02:00 PM

god damn i miss that car!

fstbckgt 03-11-10 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Sketch_hs (Post 9860917)
god damn i miss that car!

trade me for the z once it has its 1j swap, :lol:

Sketch_hs 03-11-10 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by fstbckgt (Post 9861206)
trade me for the z once it has its 1j swap, :lol:

Tempting but I like the smog exempt Z for cali :)

How is she running these days?

Did you ever change the exhaust?

Relocate the battery!

fstbckgt 03-11-10 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Sketch_hs (Post 9861416)
Tempting but I like the smog exempt Z for cali :)

How is she running these days?

Did you ever change the exhaust?

Relocate the battery!

still runs good. those 2 are on top of my list after new rad. she gets pretty hot on the drive from phoenix to flagstaff. the thing is im moving back to hawaii in june and idk if im going to take the 7 with me or sell it and buy a car on island as shipping is $800-$1000. we'll see.

Sketch_hs 03-12-10 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by fstbckgt (Post 9862221)
still runs good. those 2 are on top of my list after new rad. she gets pretty hot on the drive from phoenix to flagstaff. the thing is im moving back to hawaii in june and idk if im going to take the 7 with me or sell it and buy a car on island as shipping is $800-$1000. we'll see.

Yeah, that stock radiator is a little worn and small, plus the fans may not be enough with the FMIC in AZ heat.

MazdaJzX7 03-12-10 03:01 AM

hey got a question about fitment of a big single turbo on my 1j , did either of you guys have a problem with space, cuz i just bought a gt47r. by the way those 5zigen rims look amazing on the fc!

MazdaJzX7 03-12-10 03:06 AM

Just landed a full Mishimoto sponsorship for the built, they just want a lil cread since they supplied the rad, fmic, oil cooler, oil catch can, and fans oh and hoses. But it looks like you guys kept the oem rad, Tech2 recommended I use the one from a MkIV supra, for cooling purposes, have anyone heard of that before, i figured my koyo for the 13b was sufficient since the 13b runs so much hotter. anyone?

fstbckgt 03-12-10 12:52 PM

koyo 13b rad should be fine. if i had the room for it thats what id be doing, but im going to have to put an s13 ka24 or r32 skyline rad since there much shorter and have both rad hoses on the passenger side, same as the s4 stock rad.

fstbckgt 03-12-10 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaJzX7 (Post 9862523)
Just landed a full Mishimoto sponsorship for the built, they just want a lil cread since they supplied the rad, fmic, oil cooler, oil catch can, and fans oh and hoses. But it looks like you guys kept the oem rad, Tech2 recommended I use the one from a MkIV supra, for cooling purposes, have anyone heard of that before, i figured my koyo for the 13b was sufficient since the 13b runs so much hotter. anyone?

just noticed your from the 808, what island? im moving back to oahu in 3-4 months and im hopefully bringing the 1j FC with me

MazdaJzX7 03-13-10 07:03 PM

Yeah bruhhhhhh!!!! I live on Oahu, Kaneohe side, right off of Kahakili, you know the temple valley area? I was reading about you moving back and i was telling my self that you should ship the fc, only 1000, i dont think i could part ways. Especially since they're are building new race tracks on Sand Island, Drag, Drift, And Time Attack.
Hope to see you around when you return. I cant wait to get back myself, I'm in Japan right now.

fstbckgt 03-14-10 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaJzX7 (Post 9865749)
Yeah bruhhhhhh!!!! I live on Oahu, Kaneohe side, right off of Kahakili, you know the temple valley area? I was reading about you moving back and i was telling my self that you should ship the fc, only 1000, i dont think i could part ways. Especially since they're are building new race tracks on Sand Island, Drag, Drift, And Time Attack.
Hope to see you around when you return. I cant wait to get back myself, I'm in Japan right now.

at this point its lookin like an 80% chance ill be keepin the FC, pretty much the only way ill part with it is if I get a clean 1st gen celica coupe + cash for trade cause i really want one to do a 4ag 20v swap on one. love that itb sound

fstbckgt 03-15-10 07:55 PM

jzx7, r u building the fc in japan?

*TOUCH* 03-16-10 04:06 PM

i realize that this is a bit off topic, but i dont believe anyone has posed this question before (altho im sure im wrong abt that).....has anyone ever thought of or heard of a possible 1G-GTE (toyota 2L I6) swap?? just curious

fstbckgt 03-16-10 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by *TOUCH* (Post 9871744)
i realize that this is a bit off topic, but i dont believe anyone has posed this question before (altho im sure im wrong abt that).....has anyone ever thought of or heard of a possible 1G-GTE (toyota 2L I6) swap?? just curious

with the existence of more modern engines it really doesnt make sense to swap the 1g. A 1J can handle ALOT more power and is overall a much better engine seeing as it replaced the 1G and was designed a full decade later. one toyota swap i really want to see in a 7 is a 1uz, possibly supercharged :egrin:.


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