black rx-8 yesterday morning, you know who you are.
 

but i dont. i want a rematch, i was about to do the 3 honk and you took off...

6th ave tacoma, near high way 16.

alittle 1st gen v rx8 action on 16?
:rofl:

well we were on 6th ave and i looked over and nodded and he just took off wtf i was hoping for something more sanctioned... ala the 3 honks. i could have taken him im sure of it. rx8s are slooooow.

my lil s4 motor with a 48 weber and full exhaust makes it a more even match

^^ It does?! :)

Rx-8s are'nt to bad. My old Rx-8 one ran in the high 14s around 95mph bone stock. My n/a 90 with just about everything done it it ran ran high 14s at 98mph. (Ported pineapple Racing motor, duel 2" exhaust, s-afc, HI-6, ported intake manifolds, dyno tuned by Ralph at GZ, etc.) CJ

yeah some people are just lame a racers.. or wanna be's waht ever you wanna call em

my car ran high 14's on my old motor, and this is a newer one so yeah, it does......:icon_tup:

Hahaha everybody thinks 8 are slooooow. The last FC owner found out it wasn't. The look of anguish was soo pleasing. I could hear his apex seals about to come thru his exhaust. :rofl:

8's are putting out some decent power stock, about 238ish right? Now if they weren't so bloated they would be a pretty impressive sports car, not that they aren't already impressive.

If my wife would let me buy a 8 again, I'd own one in a heart beat. I realy liked mine. CJ

Haha alright then.

The stock base model rx8 runs a solid 14.5, other models with more options are high 14's. If he has mods then he might be quicker.

So what makes you think you'd take him so easily? S4 motors make shit power unless there's a turbo involved.

Really, I have been out to pacific raceways numerous times, and have never seen an RX8 out there. Does anyone in the greater Seattle area have an official timeslip showing a mid 14 sec run on a bone stock RX8. I have seen tons of 2.0 liter wrx's run 14.5 14.6 bone stock. I'm not calling b.s. but I would have to see it to believe it. In fact, I drove a street prepared RX8 at a Bremerton autocross event for one run., just not feeling it I guess.

On the topic of s-4 motors, A local member who had Steve Kan tune his microtec back in Sept hit 175 at the wheels on Horsepower Connections baby dyno, I believe he had a mild s.p. and some exhaust work. I was actually surprised by the numbers, Maybe he will chime in. Thats more than a bone stock S-4 T2 makes at the wheels. I believe Mazda rated them at 182 at the flywheel.

S4 TIIs were 185fwhp, and S5 TIIs were 205fwhp.

No one that I know of in the PNW. It's what the industry testers have found, however, and are quoting for the stock base model rx8. There are tons of people on rx8club with timeslips showing high 14's, none of them are base model owners however so no customer data on base model that I've seen, just industry.

I will tell you this now, rx8's do not feel like mid/high 14 second cars at all. They have crap for torque, and you don't feel any of the pull, but they're a lot quicker than they feel.

Now what you're quoting for power on an s4, that's still crap power in my opinion. It took a great tuner and port work to get that. The OP in this thread is using carb and doesn't have as good of a tuner I'm assuming, so I'm assuming he will have less power. Stock rx8's have gotten 200rwhp before, though rare.

The lack of torque, surely contributed to it feeling "slow". I did some searching and found some folks posting time slips of mid to high 14's, I will have to eat some crow on that one.

Why does it seem there is no local "tuner" RX8's is it just an anaonoly of this area. or is it like that coast to coast. I only know of one guys who regularly attends autocrossing with BSCC. Yet on the same day there are usually 4-6 RX7's of all three generations out there.

The same holds true for drag racing. I have yet to see an 8 out there, not that folks buy them to go drag race, but you have to be somewhat curious what it will do. I have seen plenty of cars out there just wasting time and space.

I do agree that an rx8 would beat a S-4 weber and exhaust, unless he's got a healthy port and stripped the car down some. I did run some low low 14's in my 82 about 4 years ago. It was a Ken Durkey old school 4 port 13B with a big street port, holley 600, RB street port exhaust system, and sans about 200 pounds, oh yea it had DF msd, ftw. Ha Ha.

Nice chatting take care,
Chris.

Washington has proved to not be a big RX8 tuner area, at least from what I see. I lurk in the NW section on rx8club and they have drives and meets and stuff like that, but I never really see them talking about auto-x or drag, or even seeing many of them doing heavy modifications (usually just suspension/exhaust/wheels).

Not sure if it's just our area or if it's everywhere, I know Cali has a lot of RX8 tuner/modifiers, but that's true for a lot of cars in Cali.

FYI I ran a 14.6@91mph on a stock port GSL-SE engine with weber and exhaust. Oh and that engine had over 200k on the clock too. and a bad water seal. I think he could've beat the 8.

IMO not a lot of heavy modding with the rx-8 because owners are waiting for their warranties to expire and the complexity of tuning the PCM.

2008 is looking to be a good year for tuning the rx-8. There will be a few more options and hopefully some known issues get resolved. I'd expect to see more tuned rx-8's in the near future.

I own an RX-8 with 3 years of warranty left but will forgo it sometime in 2008 when I go FI.

I find it hard to believe that you ran that with only weber and exhaust, you had to have had more work done or very extensive weight reduction or something. The stock GSL-SE's ran 15's so for you to say you gained possibly over a second just from those two things is hard to swallow.

from what i have heard I dont think that many people will end up tuning the RX-8 from all the tuners i have seen in japan its very hard to get anything out of the renisis motor. It just simply cant handle it.

Quite the contrary. There are 300-400rwhp rx8's running around out there with stock port Renesis motors. The issue is that you have to take out all of the stock controls/PCM/bullshit that Mazda put it and redo everything.

Dyno charts from rx8club.com. Keep in mind this is not an all inclusive list and represents what people have reported.

Look at this thread if you are interested in the details http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=132628


WHP

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/misc/rx8club_hp.jpg

Torque

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/misc/rx8club_tq.jpg

I had no trouble beating rx-8's with my fb that had an s5 n/a 13b(stock port), sidedraft mikunis, and full exhaust. Maybe it was just the drivers? I always thought of RX8's as nice, comfortable daily drivers, not sports cars.

idk, i like the 8's but im thinkin a fb w a dun up s4 motor could in fact hold its own. u also have to realize what kind of ppl drive the majorities of 8's. there r just a lotta ppl who dont know how the car works they just like the looks. if the 8 driver was a good driver it would be a different kinda race if it went down the way it should've. in all honesty i belive that the fb could've taken it just for the fact that he probably knows his car better than the other person. im not a huge fan of the renesis just cuz it didnt have the power they said it would. they come outta the box at like 200 or something (correct me if im wrong), still theyre fun cars but if they had been made lighter and with a lil more power they would've been a huge hit.

funny fact about the 8. . . in fast and furious tokyo drift the girl's rx-8 did infact have a turbo kit. but it only put out 198 hp :(

In regards to the FATF drift movie, if the RX8 only got 198 and had turbo then they did an incredibly horrible job tuning it, OR it was a 4 port. In Japan the early RX8's came in 4 port 5 speed over there as well as 6 port 6 speed, in US the only manuals were 6 port 6 speed. The 4 ports were crap, which is why they are no longer making them, not even in the auto.

There are people all over RX8club that put on the piece of shit Greddy turbo kit with the base map that comes with it and get 220-230 easily before anymore tuning.

RX8's do alot better through the turns than in a straight line..

If you coulda took him, why didn't you catch up?

rx8 drivers do not know how to drive :dunno:

As for whp for the rx8, we are starting to see some decent numbers. It will not be long before 400whp is attainable. Right now we are seeing 300-350whp with a few different FI options. Some with greedy kit when properly tuned are approaching 300whp as well.

because he ripped the corner at the next light.

oh and thanks for the thread jack everyone might as well re name the thread rx8-bitchfest

This is not my dyno. It is a Mazsport type 3 turbo kit.

New dyno for a 2004 rx-8 at 13 psi and 11.1 afr 11.1 362whp

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.ph...9&d=1198449378

Not to be a dick, but Fawk you for questioning my integrity and making me dig out the time slip, scan it, host it, and prove you wrong.... Don't you know who I am son! LOL! I'm so sick of poeple underestimating FB's they're one of the greatest formats for a tuner car ever made. And here's my Dyno sheet from 4 days later showing you I only made 139 rwhp...
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...14691mph-1.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...2k/136RWHP.jpg

pwnt. the lesson here today kids is. LEARN TO DRIVE!!!

Drag radials. Thats what I'm guessing. In my FD with 225/50/16s thats what a good 60ft looks like. But on the other hand, you're trap speed is'nt as fast as my 8. :) Nice times though. CJ

No drag radials... 185/70-13' bridgestones on the stock 13" rims. don't hate that 20 years of engineering still couldn't help you beat a 7. The 7 can't lose! And a 2.0 60ft sucks! If you think that's a good 60' you're crazy. I was ableto hit 1.90 on those same tires. LEARN TO DRIVE That run might've been a fluke cause I was only able to back it up once with another 14.6, but the car normally ran a 14.75-14.91 with 2.0 60ft's. In a FD with 225's you should be hitting 1.7-8 60'fts If you plan on running 11's one day you'll need to learn to launch your FD and get down into the 1.5's for 60 fts. I thought I was fast running 14.9's with 2.2 60ft's until someone from NJ on nopistons told me I couldn't drive he was running 11.9 with 200whp in his FB. Hitting 1.7 60fts n drag radials. I practiced and practiced until I could launch the shit out of my car. And there are plant of witnesses to my car being ful interior intake and exhaust and running these times. Hornbm watched me win Battle of the imports, and lovehate knows my old car very well. Shoot there's probably 10 poeple in the NW section that could vouch for me.

Who cares? Why compare a sports car to a four door/sport coupe?

I'm not saying it wasn't impossible, I'm just saying I'd rather drive a 8 than a FB any day. With that being said, I own a 84 with alot of work done to it. I would still take my 8 any day. You're 14.6 is nice for a 1st gen, is by no means impressive. And I'd still out mph you in the 1/4. Who cares?

I'm calling BS on 200rwhp in the 11s, uless the car is in the 1600lbs.

I know how to drive. I ran my bone stock FD at Woodburn when I first picked it up. My best time was a 13.5@101.96. Almost the same exact time and speed that most magazines where reporting for the day.

When it comes down to it, whats it matter? If you're happy with your 1st gen, then cool. I'm sure there alot of people who like there 8s just as much as you like your first gen. Merry Christmas, cj