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dwb87 10-13-11 04:26 AM

Anyone want to LeMons?
 
I was checking out the 24 Hours of LeMons web page...

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

And I was thinking... Lets get a team together.

rx7_FREAKKK 10-13-11 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by dwb87 (Post 10822349)
I was checking out the 24 Hours of LeMons web page...

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

And I was thinking... Lets get a team together.

sure. Sponsor me an engine, game on :bluesuit:

hornbm 10-13-11 06:30 PM

There is something similar to this called hornet racing. Total cost of the car had to be under $300 dollars. They eventually banned the FB from it because it kept totally dominating... what a damn shame. Maybe we can exploit this before they figure out to ban the FB.

dwb87 10-13-11 07:30 PM

I'd be down to get either an FC or FB to race. I'm surprised more people haven't yet replied to this. This would be so much fun to do. Five of us, $100 a piece, and some good fun! We could mess with the car up ntil next season... Why not?

Just let me know who is really serious about this.

hornbm 10-13-11 09:43 PM

I would love to do this, but I really need to read up on this more. One of the stipulations of hornet racing was that they could buy the car from you at any time for $300. Can they do that in this league?

Who's going to store the car?

In short interested yes, and willing to put my money where my mouth is.

josh95mx 10-14-11 01:09 AM

this would be sweet, I have been thinking about it for months now. I would definitely be in if some wanted to get a team together.

snakebite662000 10-14-11 02:28 AM

I'm in. lol. i live in Vancouver, WA so i am closest to the track. lol. we could totaly do this. im sure i could find a place for the car as well.

Noxi 10-14-11 02:31 AM

This sounds like a awesome idea! I would be interested

dwb87 10-14-11 03:02 AM

I definitely want to get this going sometime in either November or December. So we can be ready for next season.

Basically the car and everything we do to it CANNOT be over $500. That doesn't seem easy. Everyone... Keep your eyes peeled for cars and free parts. I'd like for us to represent a rotary powered car, preferably.

Costs:
$500 per car
$100 per driver/pit member
$75 per pit crew member/not driver

So, teams can be bigger than five people. But only five people will be chosen to drive. I don't mind being part of the pit crew or a driver. Although, I do feel safer behind a wrench. Haha

I'm looking for people who are serious about doing this, and looking to have a lot of fun!

Let's get a list going... Let me know whether you are willing to be a Driver (D), Pit Member (P), or either (PD).

1) dwb87 - (PD)
2)
3)

Etc.

Noxi 10-14-11 03:13 AM

So we would be preparing for next years season? sounds good to me I can put funds aside to pay my share, I have no experience on a track but would be willing to drive, either that or wrenching doesnt bother me

dwb87 10-14-11 03:20 AM

Sounds good to me! Oh... And I have no track experience either. lol - It's all in good fun! Yes, 2012 season... We will have plenty of time.

1) dwb87 - (PD)
2) Noxi - (PD)

7dust 10-14-11 10:40 AM

We have quite a long thread in the South Forum about our escapades racing rotaries in the 24 Hours of Lemons.

We have raced 13 or so of these events and have run every iteration from very stock to bridgeported to our current setup of full turbo drivetrain.

I love racing Lemons and it has become my new addition.

josh95mx 10-14-11 11:15 AM

I am totally down for this! I live in Bellevue

please put me down as a PD.

I will be parting out my blown 8, so I may have a lot of usable extra parts.

I know it says i am a new member but I have been around this forum for many years just not active, as i am on others :)


I was thinking about like a rotary Miata or perhaps 1st gen would be sweet. I have a VF10 turbo laying around somewhere in great shape.

dwb87 10-14-11 07:25 PM

Sweet! I am in Bellevue, too... Obviously. A rotary powered Miata would be pretty quick on the track. Right now, I am just looking to get a list together. Eventually I will PM everyone to get their contact info. We will all meet up sometime just to talk about what we are going to be doing, what we have to offer, etc...


Tweak, you in for sure??

1) dwb87 - (PD)
2) Noxi - (PD)
3) josh95mx - (PD)
4)
5)
6)

dwb87 10-15-11 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by TweakGames (Post 10824705)
I donno, being in a group with 4 other people that have zero prior racing experience driving or setting up a car sounds like a big headache waiting to happen. I will see if a few of my racing friends want to do this first just to avoid having to teach random people the basics.

You guys already have your own race suits, gloves, helmets, shoes, welders, tube benders, tires, ......?

See... This is not an extremely competitive race. They could care less if you're an experienced driver or not. Personally, I am looking for people who want to have fun.

I have access to a welder and am able to weld very well. As for race suits, gloves, helmets, shoes, tires, roll cage, etc... Those can be acquired before next season.

Nytrate 10-15-11 03:02 AM

Im down

1) dwb87 - (PD)
2) Noxi - (PD)
3) josh95mx - (PD)
4)Nytrate - Taylor, Would love to drive!
5)
6)

Rotortuner 10-15-11 11:24 AM

Did you guys read the rule book yet? If its like chump car racing. which most of those cars i think compete in this as well. It can actually be a couple grand to set a car up. cage. fuel cell, you need a fire suit, fire gloves, booties. etc etc. there is a little bit to it.

CJG

dwb87 10-15-11 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Rotortuner (Post 10825116)
Did you guys read the rule book yet? If its like chump car racing. which most of those cars i think compete in this as well. It can actually be a couple grand to set a car up. cage. fuel cell, you need a fire suit, fire gloves, booties. etc etc. there is a little bit to it.

CJG

I have read the rules. Fuel cell isn't necessary. I understand there is quite a bit to it.

The only thing I think is going to be hard, is finding a car for under $500. Fuel costs money, the saftey equipment (roll cage, suits, helmets, gloves, etc.) doesn't count towards the cost of the car. But it all does cost money. And if we don't get this going for next season (2012)... There is always 2013.

Thanks Tweak... I'd much rather have an unexperienced, fun group of guys... Than a guy willing to sell the soul of his car, and drop an LS1 in it.


1) dwb87 - (PD)
2) Noxi - (PD)
3) josh95mx - (PD)
4) Nytrate - (PD)
5)
6)

Whoever drives will also automatically be there as a pit crew member, too. We can have 4-6 drivers. If we get more people wanting to drive, I am willing to serve just as pit crew.

Noxi, Josh, Nytrate... I advise you guys thoroughly read the rules. (It's quite a bit.) I want to be sure you guys are serious about this.

24 Hours of LeMons Prices and Rules

Nytrate 10-15-11 04:08 PM

I will read the rules tonight, When do we have to have everything together and a car built by? We need some deadlines.

dwb87 10-15-11 05:02 PM

The 2012 schedule has not yet been released.

This can all be discussed when we meet up... After I get everyone's contact information via PM.

I figure we have AT LEAST five to six months to have a team, car, proper equipment, and proper knowledge for this race.

Nytrate 10-15-11 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by dwb87 (Post 10825357)
The 2012 schedule has not yet been released.

This can all be discussed when we meet up... After I get everyone's contact information via PM.

I figure we have AT LEAST five to six months to have a team, car, proper equipment, and proper knowledge for this race.

if you want, You can text me and we can start planning this. I am Pming you my Number

dwb87 10-15-11 06:55 PM

PM's sent.

Anyone else interested?

Nytrate 10-15-11 09:18 PM

Getting this ball rolling, I got the rules printed and Im going thru them!

Noxi 10-15-11 09:49 PM

Come on guys leave Tweak alone! Hes a very experienced Rx7 owner Rotaries/turbo's/v8's and made good points on why he doesn't want to suffer the headache of amateurs like myself! Stop hating

As for Lemons, It does seem like its going to cost a pretty penny especially in Safety gear, Like Rotor Tuner said it could end up being around a 2k build for everything we do have time to put some $ away for savings though

kettlman 10-16-11 12:18 AM

My question is, how many races will you be able to compete in. Hell the close one in oregon is a good 4+ hours away. Sounds fun, but for me its alot of money to spend on one race. If you race more, well I have a job, would be spending alot of time and money in gas than you would if you won anything. Just a point to ponder.

RW-7 10-16-11 01:09 AM

Thread cleaned up.

dwb87 10-16-11 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by kettlman (Post 10825754)
My question is, how many races will you be able to compete in. Hell the close one in oregon is a good 4+ hours away. Sounds fun, but for me its alot of money to spend on one race. If you race more, well I have a job, would be spending alot of time and money in gas than you would if you won anything. Just a point to ponder.

What you say is all very true.

It would be one race that we'd be preparing for. It's a really cool concept that I don't really want to give up on.

Car: $500
Safety equpiment: ~$1,200 (Roll cage, helmets, suits, tires, etc.)
Gas: ~$700
Other costs: ~$800

These are just estimates. And in 24 Hours of LeMons, it is possible that our car be chosen to be destroyed. We could always get a team together, each save some cash, and compete in 2013 or even in another league if we don't have time or the funds right now. We'd have more time to prepare a car and the team's strategy. We can't just give up. I'd like to hear what others have to say.

(Thank you RW-7 for cleaning up the thread. You read my mind.)

snakebite662000 10-16-11 02:17 AM

Again I'm in. but seeing as how im in Vancouver, WA, and everyone else is in Seattle aria, it might be hard for me unless we pick a spot in the middle, i have a buddy in Toledo WA, that might sell a fb/fc for ~500

snakebite662000 10-16-11 02:21 AM

http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/2638231017.html

think i found ur car.

snakebite662000 10-16-11 03:04 AM

this guy is local to me. parts car, might be able to get car
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/2642986168.html

PS i Emailed This one

dwb87 10-16-11 03:06 AM

Updated List:

1) dwb87 - (PD)
2) Noxi - (PD)
3) josh95mx - (PD)
4) Nytrate - (PD)
5) snakebite662000 - (PD)
6)
7)
8)

hornbm 10-16-11 10:10 PM

I think you guys can do better price wise on a FB for this project than the one in the link. These cars tend to fall out of the sky. I bought a GSL-SE for 50 bucks once.

bontis101 10-17-11 01:12 AM

im interested, im in silverdale, Wa, new to the hole rotory scene,

josh95mx 10-17-11 01:10 PM

Cant wait to do this! the gears in my head are spinning. lots of ideas for this.

dwb87 10-17-11 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by hornbm (Post 10826657)
I think you guys can do better price wise on a FB for this project than the one in the link. These cars tend to fall out of the sky. I bought a GSL-SE for 50 bucks once.

Damn. That's pretty cheap... That would leave us quite a bit more money for the rest of the build. Thanks for the info. Are you interested in participating hornbm?


Like I said... It may be late November, maybe December before we actually meet up. For now, keep those ideas on the top of your head, write them down, whatever. Keep them fresh, though!


Updated List:

1) dwb87 - (PD)
2) Noxi - (PD)
3) josh95mx - (PD)
4) Nytrate - (PD)
5) snakebite662000 - (PD)
6) bontis101 - (PD)
7)
8)

We have two people in Bellevue, WA. Two in the Lacey/Olympia, WA area. One in Vancouver, WA. And one in Silverdale, WA. - We are all somewhat spread out.

We need to find a "mid-point" to meet up. After reviewing a map... I figure somewhere below Olympia, WA may be our best bet. (We won't be meeting up for quite some time. I will give advanced notices.)

This can all be discussed, though. Anymore input?

Red_Rotor 10-17-11 06:09 PM

count me in. gettin OT at work so ill have a couple hundred extra aside every paycheck. iv drivin auto x down in portland a few times when i lived there. also did a bunch of street racing on oregon coast. wrenching is fun too. im quick at tearin shit down and gettin it back together. totally comfortable behind the wheel in a 7 for sure.

RedRevolver 10-17-11 06:10 PM

I'm getting an '84 accord to field in chump car, was previously used in hornet racing. Would have been nice to do a rotary but this came up haha.

dwb87 10-17-11 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Red_Rotor (Post 10827612)
count me in. gettin OT at work so ill have a couple hundred extra aside every paycheck. iv drivin auto x down in portland a few times when i lived there. also did a bunch of street racing on oregon coast. wrenching is fun too. im quick at tearin shit down and gettin it back together. totally comfortable behind the wheel in a 7 for sure.

Awesome. I advise the most recent members to the list, to read the 24 Hours of LeMons prices and rules.

Updated List:

1) dwb87 - (PD)
2) Noxi - (PD)
3) josh95mx - (PD)
4) Nytrate - (PD)
5) snakebite662000 - (PD)
6) bontis101 - (PD)
7) Red_Rotor - (PD)
8)
9)

bontis101 - Since you deploy in December, are you going to be able to do this?

RW-7 10-17-11 11:16 PM

Did you guys see this thread?
https://www.rx7club.com/race-car-tech-103/dedicated-lemons-chumpcar-thread-882322/ :icon_tup:
Thought I would share.
That number 6 car is super COOL!! :lol:
-Robert.

hornbm 10-18-11 03:53 AM

I'd like to participate, but after reviewing the distance and time its going to take, I don't think now would be a good time. I hope you guys can pull this off.

dwb87 10-18-11 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by RW-7 (Post 10828035)
Did you guys see this thread?
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=882322 :icon_tup:
Thought I would share.
That number 6 car is super COOL!! :lol:
-Robert.

Haha! That car is AWESOME!

Ah, yeah... That's understandable hornbm.

7dust 10-18-11 08:37 AM

^^^ That number 6 car is ours.

Thread that started it all for us.
https://www.rx7club.com/south-rx-7-forum-34/24-hrs-lemons-808443/

Here is where we won the Lemons top prize in Dallas - Index of Effluency:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...l-winner-is-8/

Here is where we added a garbage disposal based margarita machine / cool suit system and a functional car-powered moonshine still:
http://murileemartin.com/wordpress/?p=1407

Anyhoo - if any of you need ideas / want the lowdown on Lemons, just PM me or give me a call. I'm always up for talking Lemons. In fact, we are currently prepping our car for the season ender in December.

snakebite662000 10-18-11 08:40 AM

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/2642986168.html

this guy will sell everything to us for 600. yes i know that it 100 over limit, but hey.
we could also keep an eye out longer but this comes with extra parts.

i have a 1985 parts car will also work on 1980s through 1985 rx7s i have no title for it the car. so it that is why I'm parting it out i have a whole car!! the engine runs an the tranny shifts fine. i have many other rx7 parts too almost new R.B headers. and extra tranny 3 sunroofs louvers for the back window 4 Nikki carbs one is brand new an 3 drive shafts i have windows. all the glass is good. and wheels for the rx7 waffle rims they have good tires and have after market fort valance and a alot more please call me or text me an let me know what parts you need! lots of parts in boxes. The whole car is for parts 3609897273 trades?

thats the ad.

bontis101 10-24-11 01:40 AM

im not sure when december im getting deployed, but ill be back shortly in no more than 3 months,

dwb87 10-24-11 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by 7dust (Post 10828328)
^^^ That number 6 car is ours.

Thread that started it all for us.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=808443

Here is where we won the Lemons top prize in Dallas - Index of Effluency:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...l-winner-is-8/

Here is where we added a garbage disposal based margarita machine / cool suit system and a functional car-powered moonshine still:
http://murileemartin.com/wordpress/?p=1407

Anyhoo - if any of you need ideas / want the lowdown on Lemons, just PM me or give me a call. I'm always up for talking Lemons. In fact, we are currently prepping our car for the season ender in December.

That car is awesome! Yeah dude... I may have to contact you once we get the ball rolling. I appreciate it. Congrats on the IOE top prize!



Originally Posted by bontis101 (Post 10835481)
im not sure when december im getting deployed, but ill be back shortly in no more than 3 months,

Alright. I'm currently working on my "job situation"... I am excited to meet everyone. (When we actually get to meet.)

bontis101 10-24-11 10:59 PM

1.0: WARNING: Racing is Exceedingly Taxing, both Physically and Mentally. When driving a racecar, you'll be exposed to extreme (both high and low) temperatures; to dense smoke and fumes; to intense shocks and vibration; to very loud noises; and to a variety of other unusual, exhausting, confusing, and stressful conditions. EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU'RE IN EXCELLENT HEALTH, TELL YOUR DOCTOR WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO; GET A FULL PRE-COMPETITION PHYSICAL EXAM BEFORE YOU START RACING; AND ESTABLISH A REGULAR SCHEDULE FOR RE-TESTS!

Hmm im submariner i dont think i qualify for this...........

parid 11-02-11 09:58 PM

I run a chumpcar team out of oregon. Feel free to ask any questions. Last weekend was the second 2011 event at Portland. We fielded 83 cars (4-5 rx7s too!) for an awesome weekend. Unfortunately my team didn't finish due to a still unknown issue. It shouldn't be anything too major though. We will be back up and running for our next event at Laguna Seca in December.

You way want to consider running chumpcar as well as lemons. Chumpcar has 4 events in the NW (5 if you count canada) next year. ChumpCar also has a true 24hr race mid summer in Spokane. Last year lemons only ran one race in the NW at ORP. ORP is also hosting their own events call "rat races" that are essentially the same rule sets. The ORP manager was walking the pits last weekend and mentioned they are going to run 4+ events. It should be pretty simple to build one car to meet all the rules. What it comes down to is that we pretty much have more events in 2012 than we would want. Spoiled for choice.

So far no one has braved pacific raceways running a crap-can event. Maybe lemons in 2012? Chumpcar won't.

Chumpcar also doesn't destroy cars (well unless the owners decide to drive them into walls, RIP chumpcar #1 :( ).

Plan on spending at least 4k preping the team and car. Fueling supplies, spares, parts cars (yes sssss), tires, brakes, spare engines, towing, fuel (LOTS of fuel, we regularly burn 100+gal in a weekend not including towing),something to store all that fuel in, don't forget all the personal safety gear too! Maybe even lights for night racing. On top of the build/team costs you will probably spend 400-500 per driver per race (on fuel, entry fees, tires, brakes, fluids, ect).

It may sound like a lot but its by far the cheapest wheel to wheel racing in North America. You get a ton of wheel time and I haven't found a bigger rush yet. It's amazing fun and you will NOT be disappointed you did it.

If you don't have your car ready in time, you should come down and volunteer for the race or crew with a team during the March PIR race.

dwb87 11-03-11 03:14 AM

Chumpcar seems pretty cool... LeMons kind of scares the shit out of me. Some of the rules seem so random and "off the wall". (I wouldn't want to build a car and then have it destroyed.)

I'm seriously considering coming down in March to volunteer. I appreciate your post.

hornbm 11-18-11 01:25 PM

Figured you guys would like to know, they are having a lemons race in shelton, wa next year, just announced!

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/pnw12.aspx

snakebite662000 12-05-11 10:29 PM

so where do we stand now?? thread has been froze for a while. lets get the ball rolling huh???


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