When Will High-Res (32x32) Maps Be Available? Ability To Save To Disk?
 

I know we have a few Microtech employees around this forum, so it seems as an appropriate place to ask as any...

When will we see the high-res code released for the LT8s? And when will we have the ability to save maps to disk?

Both of these have been promised for a very long time, but there doesn't seem to be any progress. No screenshots, no interm announcements, etc. Especially frustrating is the inability to save maps to disk, something that is available with every other common ECU on the market.

Since save to disk is mainly a software function, why not update the software and make a lot of people happy?

Dom is working very hard to get it all finished, the lt16 is in testing phases now and will not be far from being finished,
once it is finished all will be released at once

Dale

Any estimates on when this will happen? The thread on the Microtech forum has been running for a long time without any real news. :)

ill see what i can find out for you

Sweet, thanks. :)

(As an aside, I have already written software that allows saving the fuel table to disk...the Microtech protocal is really simple. But I want to know if it's worth me spending more time on the thing to allow it to also load a map from disk to the unit, as well as handle ignition and a few other functions...)

VERY GOOD AARON! i would love to know about the saving maps to disk considering u can only run 1 map!

i put my bet on around 12 months before we get it.

It's a pretty basic application at the moment that simply allows you to save the fuel matrix to disk. I'll flush it out when I have some time and release it here. No idea when this will take place as I have a lot of projects, but should be by the end of the summer.

Bloody hell. :(

Fine. :)
Now - ½ year later - there are some (good) news? :wave:

Roland

No good news.

I disagree with the way microtech are doing things.
They should put the lt16 on hold and do what they have been promising people for years.
Finish the software update, get it in action then go back to lt16.

any updates....???

LT16 is in final stages from what i was told last week, im hoping to have one for our race car in the next month or so,

Well, so we can hope for summertime. :pat:

Roland

Lt16?
probably going to cost $2500+?
defeats the whole purpose of a microtech.

When you buy a haltech...


Just kidding ;)

LT16 will be a race system with 16 channel data logger etc, its not designed for the budget racer, it will have all the features you can dream of and more

fair enough.

always seen microtech as the computer for the budget racer.

might as well buy a haltech or a motec.
Oh well.
Lets hope the 32X32 is here soon.

Lately I've not been recommending Microtech for this reason.

I understand that it's a small company with limited resources, but the new code and save to disk has been promised for years. Ever since I bought my LT8s, I have heard "It's just around the corner" or "it's coming soon". I purchased my unit in 2003.

4 months later. Any word from the Microtech people when these features will be ready?

Looking to hear on the status of high res, save to disk, closed loop and 3D timing tables on the LT8 series.

Soon I'm going to start considering swapping this backwards ECU with something more up to date like a Megasquirt. :) Currently the Microtech is the only mainstream ECU so far behind the curve. While it's a great ECU and almost always problem free (never have I had any trigger issues or had one fail to start first try) it is antiquated at this point regarding features that all other ECUs provide.

Ill say it again.
Dont even bother.
Get a haltech or something. microtech are just doing everything wrong.

thats the one thing i absolutely hate about microtech.... I CANT SAVE MY MAP!!! I'm always afraid to play around with the tuning, because I'm afraid i will screw it up and have to pay hundreds of dollars for new tuning....

Buy a Wolf V500 for the same price, guys have been using the V500 in their tow vehicles, then once they get to the track they unplug the V500 from their truck, put it in their race car, load the race car map then go racing all day. At the end of the day put the V500 in their truck, load the trucks map and drive home with no problems.

ahhhh wolf no.

there is 2 drag cars down in PR running LT16,Yerismar Racing and La Metrica,they both run semmi p-ports cosmos 13b,i been told that they still in beta testing and that they will relase them soon.

I'd rather run a carburetor then a Wolf. :) I'm sure the new version is better then the old, but no thanks...

Instead of Microtech building a new ECU (LT16) they should have concentrated on making the software for the older units that we were all promised when we purchased them. We've been screaming for it ever since. The official Microtech forum is full of these topics, many of which have been around for years.

I realise it's a small company and development costs money but in the interest of not pissing off customers would it not make sense to bring in another programmer to help? If the base code already exists in the LT16 then porting the relevant sections to the older ECUs will not be hard.

As for saving to disk, this summer I hope to have time to play with my little map saving utility. Pulling the map down from the unit is easy, getting it back up is much harder.

I run the LTX8 and glad I kept it... I can make just as much power as the L10 can make period. I've wanted to switch to a 4bar but if the LT16 does not come out by end of this year. I will switch to AEM

I agree with aaron cake. Spot ON.!

The LT8 is a great ECU. Easy to install, program and very trouble free (ie. no trigger issues). But it's behind the times. Every other ECU can save maps to disk, run closed loop and has a 3D timing table. A code update is needed to bring it into this century.

i might be sticking my nose where i might not need to but i might switch to something else soon. because i can play with programing with out hooking up the ecu and it has 32x32 maping and loading to disk from what i have read, the manuf whos name may not be mentioned. i do like my lt10s but where is the update that everyone else had before 2003.

.....sooooooo any word on high rez?

nope no update im sure.probably never will be...

why are you guys waiting for an update?
its not going to come.
microtech are focusing on the lt16 so they can sell it for a ridiculous price. not so they can come true to a promise they made years ago.

im not gona say who but one of the microtech dealrs on this place told me 4 years ago now that the update was with in 3 months. soyeh. that says it all.

I've been hearing the "3 month" story since I purchased my unit...in 2003. One of the reasons I purchased was knowing that Microtech would be providing software updates and enabling more features. In this sense, I feel that Microtech has misled the entire community.

While I am happy with the basic functionality of the ECU, the current timing tables suck (we need a matrix table for that) and resolution of 5" in vacuum is not enough for a smooth tune, good economy and decent throttle response. You need to pick two. Not having closed loop and a wideband input is a real problem as well.

Oh yeah, AND WHY CAN'T I SAVE MY MAPS TO DISK?! Something that EVERY, SINGLE standalone can do.

Man, I haven't had a rotary anything in years, and I occasionally drop back in just to see if Microtech's released anything new.

Adjustable RPM points, high-resolution maps, user-programmable inputs and outputs, disk storage, 3D ignition maps, ... let's see, what else did they promise us back in 03 ... oh! closed-loop operation, and adjustable-frequency data logging, too, I think. They wanted us to sink $xx,xxx into inventory while they were promising a completely new system "by the end of summer".

Did they ever switch to the Motorola 68000-series processor like I was told they would?

Good Idea
 

I'm working with my LT-8 at this time it would be good to save and swap all the settings. I have a Mega Squirt in my race car and I set up several maps before the race weekend. I swap them in and out at the track in the hot pit lane. I pull off track pull of the gloves and work with my lap top that is mounted in the car to my right like you see with the cops at the side of the road. After pushing a few buttons I set the data logger and I,m back on track in about 1 minute cracking lap times. I hope they can do this I plan to try this LT-8 in replacement of the Megasquirt. The Megasquirt can be changed to work on most any thing with out sending to any one for changes. So I will reprogram the Megasquirt to operate fuel and spark for a small block Ford in my wife,s Sunbeam Tiger.

Try and set this up guys:icon_tup:

Best Regards
SCCA RX7 RACER

If this also applies to the LT10 then ya it would be great if you could save your different tunes so that you can change it on the fly ex. one for emissions and different ones say for the change in air feet(sea level-6000feet)

im havent got a mircotech but i was looking at the lt10s for my s4 but after reading all this its sorta putting me off what you reakon i should continue down the mircotech path or go somewhere else

i was just on the microtech site and i found this, MicroTech NEW LTS 4 Line Hand Controller and it say You can store up to 4 maps in memory with this new hand controller from MicroTech, ok i m new to these aftermarket computers but is this what you been asking for or something different, if not would this do the same job and allow me to have different maps for like street and strip ect and just load at a push of the button

ok i emailed microtech and this is what they told me when i asked them if it worked the same as saving to a disk and this is what the said "That is correct, you can have up to 4 saved tunes in the memcal on the hand controller. Then it is just a matter of selecting the tune you want to run and going from there. there is a 'how to use' guide that you can also download from the support page on our website, www.microtech-efi.com that will also give you a better idea of the capabilities of the units." so why not buy one these

MEMCALs are a LOT different then save to disk. When tuning a car I'll generate 20 to 50 maps. 4 maps saved to a hand controller/dongle is not nearly the same.

i was going through the archive, someone was trying to make a palm reader/software for the microtech, did they ever get it to work?

yeah thats what i would of thought from all the research i done but when i email microtech thats what the told. i would reakon you would need more then 4 maps

That may have been me?

I've been playing with some software I made to save maps to disk. Saving the Matrix table is easy. Spitting it back to the ECU is a bit more complicated. Maybe I'll dust off my copy of Visual Basic and play with it again...Honestly it's a pain because I don't have a spare ECU and harness. I have to do testing in the car and I don't want to corrupt my current map.

maybe when you make the program you could sell it to microtech for a bit lol:icon_tup:

I would buy one too, but it would be better to make it for Windows-Mobile devices.

It will be free, and run on Windows 95 - XP.

so its not going to be vista compatable....
if not ill down grade my lap top back to XP.
aaron you prolly dont have the ability to make the 32x32 resolution do you?

Thanks
Rob

I have no motivation to support an OS that was dead on arrival. It may work under Vista, may not.

There is no easy way to change the code in the Microtech unit itself. And if someone fluent in assembly actually accomplished it, it's likely that Microtech would sue.

man if i only knew all of this before i bought my microtech... :(

I like my Microtech, but if I had known the company was lying to us about upgrading the software I would have went with something else. Realistically though, at the time the only other choice was Haltech and they tend to have trigger issues.