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FC_mania 02-07-05 11:59 AM

anyone with 550cc prim and 1600cc secondaries?
 
I would like to know how you guys set up your staging for it to have a good idle and smooth transition when boost kicks in...

thanks

gergrx7 02-07-05 12:16 PM

Most cars with 550cc primaries & 1600cc secondaries will need to be up around the 95% mark in the % stage.Once you change to a setting like that you will then have to go back & take out fuel in the lower load points to compensate.

copied from the sticky up top.

drivegrp 02-09-05 11:20 AM

95% stage, 0% vacuum at 3500RPM.

FC_mania 02-10-05 12:31 AM

thanks all for the input , im still trying to understand the sticky thread =)

Arvika 02-10-05 04:09 PM

I canīt understand why you use 1600cc injectors at all...
How many of you have over 600hp engines?
The 1600cc are just harder to fine tune!

Use the formula:
(hp x 0,65 / 4) x 10,5)) = what you need...

Infini IV 02-10-05 05:54 PM

1600's are only in the secondaries... Remember, most rotaries run a staged injection setup.

BTW, since we are not piston engines, 550/1600 combo will only support ~450bhp on a 13bt at 80-85% duty cycles ;)

FC_mania 02-10-05 06:53 PM

nice call infini....

well for me primarily the new 1600 bosch injectors are dirt cheap for me heheheh.... so i used it on my setup 680cc r/c engineering primaries and 1600cc secondaries bosch.....

anyone else have set up like this for a smooth transition? .....im still waiting on my plx wideband.... its been forever

RexRyder 02-12-05 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by FC_mania
nice call infini....

well for me primarily the new 1600 bosch injectors are dirt cheap for me heheheh.... so i used it on my setup 680cc r/c engineering primaries and 1600cc secondaries bosch.....

anyone else have set up like this for a smooth transition? .....im still waiting on my plx wideband.... its been forever


i had ur setup. but 95% stage? that fucked my car up even more, I think I had like 30 or 40. Im going to 550cc primaries tho, cuz my cosmo engine has a weird primary rail and weird looken injectors. (the primary rail off an fc won't work w/o fab work) The secondary I can just use off my tii.

FC_mania 02-12-05 02:08 PM

why is 680 / 1600 bad?

RexRyder 02-12-05 05:15 PM

i dont think anyone ever said they were bad.

Crusader_9x 02-12-05 07:17 PM

I got the 680/1680 combo with like 98% stage 3K rpms and 00"hg.

chris_stampe 02-17-05 04:44 PM

I couldnt get a good transition staging at 00hg, I had to do mine at 2psi, the primaries arent even close to maxing out either. 95% stage and i believe 2500rpms, although it never makes boost that fast anyways.

5252 02-28-05 03:21 AM

What kind of turbo are you running, at how much boost? Is your engine street ported?

How are you setting up the timing?

FC_mania 03-01-05 01:26 AM

i couldnt get a nice staging at vacuum points either , i had mine on 6psi.....will see what it does if i put it lower

RexRyder 03-01-05 04:03 AM

i think 6psi is too high man. 0-3 i think is ideal.

Infini IV 03-01-05 08:20 PM

Whatever you stage it at, you want to have as smooth and gradual a load map at optimum AFR's as is possible.

ErnieT 03-01-05 08:50 PM

Your not goin to get a smooth transition because of the large gap between the 550 and 1600 injector, unless your running a Tec3 where you can bring the injector on by percentage.

RexRyder 03-01-05 09:25 PM

i had a smooth transaction with 680 and 1600's?

FC_mania 03-01-05 09:40 PM

well mine is smooth at 6psi....shall fine tune it more to bring it down to 3psi as mentioned by rexryder and see how it goes.

madaz07 03-03-05 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by chris_stampe
I couldnt get a good transition staging at 00hg, I had to do mine at 2psi, the primaries arent even close to maxing out either. 95% stage and i believe 2500rpms, although it never makes boost that fast anyways.

yeah my 880 pri and 1240 secs were bad 00hg i recon that i will need at 3 or 4 psi i think

drivegrp 03-04-05 08:54 AM

I have 550 pris and 1600 secs and staged as follows:

90%
3500
00"hg

I would say the transition is pretty smooth.

silverrotor 03-06-05 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by ErnieT
Your not goin to get a smooth transition because of the large gap between the 550 and 1600 injector, unless your running a Tec3 where you can bring the injector on by percentage.

The resolution may not be as fine on a Microtech but a smooth transition can still be had.

Crusader_9x 03-06-05 05:22 PM

I think alot depends on how picky someones ass is. There are people out there who want there car to ride and drive like a cadillac or something with absolutley no little nothing hiccups. Personally i think the transition can be plenty smooth with the microtech, especially in matrix mode.

Arvika 03-12-05 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by Infini IV
1600's are only in the secondaries... Remember, most rotaries run a staged injection setup.

BTW, since we are not piston engines, 550/1600 combo will only support ~450bhp on a 13bt at 80-85% duty cycles ;)

I do Know thar rotaries run staged injection...
If you use Bosch injectors, then I also know that their cc figures are set at 80% duty-cycle from the beginning/factory. And I am certain it's the same with Denso!


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