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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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What do you guys think?

Here is a vid of a mustang that wants to race me for cash when im tuned. I will have everything in my sig and a lsd. He has a 351w i think that is bored .40over so its a 360. Edlebrock heads, cams, intake, headers, 3.73gears and a 2800stall i believe. Here is a video of him racing a camaro that apparently ran a 15.2 and he set him out 6cars. This is the very first race on the video. Just dont want to lose to much. My stepdad is a big v8 guy and he said i should beat him when im tuned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5OGGvbONg
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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There is a possibility. But Verts are also heavy.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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How much boost do you plan to run on your stage 4? If nothing else I'd say a close race with him being the winner, only because those fox body Mustangs are pretty quick when you put some hp under the hood, well he doesn't have one but still you get the idea Got a buddy running a '68 Cougar with a 5.0 block that he built into a 331 Stroker with built heads, cam, and exhaust... Should run about 400whp and 11 second quarters... As it sits my FD wouldn't stand a chance against him

Personally I would NEVER race for cash due to how crazy people are now days and the chance that if you win you might get shot and killed, or just shot and your wallet stolen... So unless it's a sanctioned event I personally wouldn't race for the money. But for fun no doubt I'd do it
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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i plan on running 15-18lbs. I think, hope, i will take him. He has 3.73 rear end gears which isnt helping him.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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I'll race that SOTK5 dude with 6 car lead and see whats up
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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Assuming you can do a decent take off, you will hand him his ***. bad.

With Your mods, your prolly losing traction all the way through 2nd gear and then some.

If he is carburated he has less of a chance.

Just so you know, when Quarter mile racing ,1 car length is only 1 tenth of second faster. so hes running 14.2. and thats being nice.

If he's got slicks, you better go get some too and enjoy your .5 to 1 full second increase in QMT.

Its all about the first 60' of the track. Practice..Good Luck.. Easy Kill.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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How much boost do you plan to run on your stage 4? If nothing else I'd say a close race with him being the winner, only because those fox body Mustangs are pretty quick when you put some hp under the hood, well he doesn't have one but still you get the idea Got a buddy running a '68 Cougar with a 5.0 block that he built into a 331 Stroker with built heads, cam, and exhaust... Should run about 400whp and 11 second quarters... As it sits my FD wouldn't stand a chance against him t
Your buddy will never hit 11s with that car and 400 hp..

My GLHS has 450 HP @ crank and 380 HP to the wheels.
My GLHS's weight is only 2200lbs I run low 12s all day.

Your buddies car is way over 4000lbs or more, with same HP. He will be lucky to hit a 12 sec QT.

A slightly modded 3rd gen would *** rape that Cougar.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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What year Mustang? The fox body Mustangs are pretty light (for an American V8 car), probably lighter than yours, so that could make a difference.

If the guy knows what he is doing you do not want to race from a dig, although that isn't a huge stall.

It's tough to say what he would run without knowing the power and torque his motor is making, but I see no reason why he couldn't make at least 400 whp. The thing is he also has loads of torque. Another big part is the suspension setup and the tires he is running. If he can hook up you will be in trouble.

Without knowing more about it I will give it to the Mustang, pending details on the car. Race and find out.

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by glhs0867
Assuming you can do a decent take off, you will hand him his ***. bad.

With Your mods, your prolly losing traction all the way through 2nd gear and then some.

If he is carburated he has less of a chance.

Just so you know, when Quarter mile racing ,1 car length is only 1 tenth of second faster. so hes running 14.2. and thats being nice.

If he's got slicks, you better go get some too and enjoy your .5 to 1 full second increase in QMT.

Its all about the first 60' of the track. Practice..Good Luck.. Easy Kill.
Yea thats pretty much what my stepdad told me. I dont think that ill have a problem with him. I just dont want to lose to much money
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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practice doing take offs. You want to get the rpms just where the tires hardly spin in first gear and the engine doesn't bog down..Practice, Practice, Practice..

after I practiced alot, I went 1.2 seconds faster..



You will have the race won in the first 2 seconds.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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i didnt see it mentioned, but how much are u racing for?
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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He wants to race for 1k. I told him i would do it for $200. He is from www.starcityracing.com which is the local forum around here. They are all a bunch of ****** morons on there. Never met a group of ****** idiots like the ones on that site.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Don't race him for money, he is sandbaggin you. I know,I do this to this very dayand it works wonders on unexperienced drivers.

sandbaggin is when you race you drive a little slower, so everyone thinks thats as fast as it goes. He is hiding something. $1000 is alot for that crap pile he is driving.


Bet he's got a 125 shot hid somewheres. Make sure he lets you check his engine over, then pull 2 of his plug wires off, when he's not looking..
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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A fool and his money are easily parted.

I sent the video to some friends who can watch it. (I'm at work so I can't, websense ftl). I don't want to see you lose you money man.

They said it is a fox, which means it will weigh roughly the same as you. He has a stall converter and an auto so he can launch dead-on every time. Saying 'cam' doesn't really reveal much as there are many options. I asked some Ford guys on this since I don't know the 351w too well. Based on the video they are thinking he is most likely making at least around 400hp at the wheels and probably 450ish tq, again these are guesses since I don't have more detailed specs, but this is probably a low-end number. They said it could be making 500 hp or more at the crank. Now, it could be making less, but this definitely isn't going to be an easy race for you, and I'm not sure you can pull it off at all. He should have similar hp (if not more) and similar weight with more torque, especially at lower rpms.

As I said though, it could be a very mild build in which case you *might* be ok. Just my .02.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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i think that mustang is ugly as ****
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Here quoted from himself.
There TRW pistons10.1 and it's a comp .500 lift cam,power band is 2500-5800.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by surfmon
i think that mustang is ugly as ****
Yeah and he thinks its ****** untouchable. He is on the #1 spot on our top 20 around here. I really hope i beat him because of all the **** these kids talk around here. It would shut them up real nice
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by siguy2k
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Alright I'll run that by my friends and see what they say, if that was in the video I missed it since I can't look at it yet.

Edit: Alright, it may be a closer race. That is a small cam, so probably at or below 400 rwhp. Once again he still does have the torque.

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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I don;t have sound here. Was that a V8 F-body Camaro? I think those things run a little faster than 15.2. At the track, the slower ones were running mid to high 14s.

Something is not right.
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Originally Posted by siguy2k
Here is a video of him racing a camaro that apparently ran a 15.2 and he set him out 6cars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5OGGvbONg

if that is a v8 camaro they run 14-14.5 stock.
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Originally Posted by glhs0867
Your buddy will never hit 11s with that car and 400 hp..

My GLHS has 450 HP @ crank and 380 HP to the wheels.
My GLHS's weight is only 2200lbs I run low 12s all day.

Your buddies car is way over 4000lbs or more, with same HP. He will be lucky to hit a 12 sec QT.

A slightly modded 3rd gen would *** rape that Cougar.
How do you explain my dad's car that weighs 4200lbs with him in it, and a built sbc that runs 10's. The car is carbed and no nitrous, all motor. Ill explain it to you have a 4 link suspension that is tuned for dragracing, have a 2 step and hook the car up off the line at 6k. I hate when people try to use hp and weight as there only deciding factor in 1/4 mile times. The launch is the most important part of the race. I would bet you spin your *** off at the line to only pull 12's. This pic is at an eighth mile track.

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Originally Posted by FDWarrior
How do you explain my dad's car that weighs 4200lbs with him in it, and a built sbc that runs 10's. The car is carbed and no nitrous, all motor. Ill explain it to you have a 4 link suspension that is tuned for dragracing, have a 2 step and hook the car up off the line at 6k. I hate when people try to use hp and weight as there only deciding factor in 1/4 mile times. The launch is the most important part of the race. I would bet you spin your *** off at the line to only pull 12's. This pic is at an eighth mile track.

That's exactly what I was thinking, especially since the Mustang is an auto. I have a friend that runs high 11's with an LT1 Caprice, he has an intake, and exhaust, but most of the work is in suspension and transmission mods. He races with a full interior and he usually keeps the jack and spare in the car. That's why I'd want more info on the Mustang.
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First, how much power do Stage 4 BNR's produce with your mods?

Second, 3.73's in a 'stang are VERY quick.

Thirdly, just because its carburated, does NOT make it slower.


If I were you, I'd definately try to see the car in person before the run, AND, I'd sneak a nitrous bottle into yours somewhere.
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Originally Posted by 1RevvinFC3S
First, how much power do Stage 4 BNR's produce with your mods?

Second, 3.73's in a 'stang are VERY quick.

Thirdly, just because its carburated, does NOT make it slower.


If I were you, I'd definately try to see the car in person before the run, AND, I'd sneak a nitrous bottle into yours somewhere.
I know a carburator does not make a car slower but alot of people do. I just threw that in there so I did not have to post it later. NHRA pro-stock runs 6.60 at 208mph in the 1/4 with a carb (no "nos" or turbos). I know, but the tools dont.
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^I understand. I wasn't trying to sound rude, pretty much getting the same point accross as you to the guys who automatically assume fuel injection > carburation (though I prefer FI, I know that carb is good.).



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