Spray Foam Widebody Kit. "That's Right" !!
 

Local guy with nutty skills. He used spray foam, then carved out what he wanted it to look like. He then put a layer of fiberglass on top and painted it.

What do you think of how it looks? :) Obviously, it's not going to last long but..... skills.

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That's crazy.. it looks good though.

mmmm....giving me an idea.

It's cool.

Wow, that looks awesome!

You've gotta hand it to the guy... great idea, and grat carving skills... you realize how easy it would be for a hand-carved piece to look lopsided?... nice work.

are you pulling our leg gargamel?

that's the idea behind any designed body kit. but normaly you go making a mould of what he has done and then making a positive agian. In this way you have a full polyster piece instead of a polyester/steel piece, which in the end, won't hold due to the big difference in expansion caracteristics (the reason why polyester piece break of hoods,sidepanels, anything...)

It's cool, he has the skills , now refine it...

it's legit

Thats totally insane, that guy has sick skills.

I watched a show where wings west made a body kit for an escalade and this was the same way they did it.

They sprayed with foam, carved the foam. Except they then made a mold of the foam and laid the fiberglass in the mold rather then just leaving the foam and covering it with fiberglass.

Thats awesome. It looks great considering he hand carved everything, looks real too. I gotta say, the guys got some skills.

I want.

cool

He should make a mold and mass produce those. I don't have an FC but if I did I'd be interested. It's very clean looking.

Sounds pretty heavy.

That guy does have skills.

That's talent!

I give props to the guys skills. But, seriously, that's pretty funky, he should have made a mold and made real body pieces.

thats sick, i know its legit, but it just looks soo good!! :D

sick skills r us: check this out: http://www.curve-ad.com/fd/photo.html keep going through the exterior links... no THAT's skills

Cool job. but I wonder is L/R are even?

Yeah, foam is soo heavy........ lol

yeah, looks like great stuff, which isnt that heavy.

Thats a cool idea!

Gargamel,

I have a friend who has been playing around with fiberglass on some interior door panels for another car. Can you find out what kind of foam this guy used? In the pic it looks like he's holding a can of that "Great Stuff" you can buy at Home Depot.

Thanks.

That's what it is, "Great Stuff". Crazy huh :)

Cool sh!t. :D All that foam reminds me of the NSX to F50 conversion.

Whoa! That looks much better than my spoiler made of aerosol cheese! :p:

problem with the home market foam is that there are just to many big airbubbles in it. in specialized stores you can find high density foams which dry faster, you can put color pigment in it and is far more easier to sand into forms.

Damned, I'm giving away my tricks.. gotta stop here, you have to find out the rest yourselves

yea that is sick as hell!!!!! WOOOOOO! guy totally has some damn skrillz! :D

the light kit on the anubis fd looks alot like the one on the 4 rotor scoot car.

please... elaborate on this
im starting my custom wide body project soon and id love to knwo more of your tricks
please pm me or email me Jnisco21@optonline.net

and i really love that FC, it looks real nice

yeah
very nice way to do a cheap kit. I mean you can put all your personal tastes in it!

and speedworks is right you can get much better foam from the right places, it's be denser with less bubbles and actually weigh less. also the real foam is much easier to use.


and yeah if he made a mold of the kit then he could also sell them to everybody.


It sure is easy to say make a mold, but there's alot of technique involved, and most guys keep thier tricks to themselves(trick of the trade for a reason)I'm a moldmaker (mostly for bronze castings,deco concrete,etc- I'm making my first venture into auto molds by making a one piece tilt forward front end for my 1971 GMC C-10, I'll keep ya posted and post pics)

but basically if he glassed the foam right and really sealed all the openings, it won't rot on him, or at least take a long long time to do so. and yeah, got some damn good skills for a garage mech. it's really really REALLY hard to make 2 symmetrical pieces on different sides of the body, got to be just right or else it looks all kinds of fubar.


keep up the good work,
Marc

just for kicks, heres a few pics of some molds I've made.....

argh.. i have some techniques.. but im still lookin for all the advice i can get
where can i find teh foam in a can?..

nice.... if i tried something like that.... i'd end up having one of those gladiator balls that you roll around in.... but it'd be more like a lopsided triangle...

anyway, how many cans of that stuff did it take the guy to make 1 fender (roughly)

How do you make sure that the left side matches the right side?

a ruler?

yeah that takes forever tho...I have done stuff like this and when you want something symmetrical what you need to do is build some kind of skeleton out of balsa or something and then fill it in once you have both sides symmetrically lined up. After you do this the best thing do do would be to cover it with fiberglass cloth to keep it flat and then bondo over it and sand it smooth. me personally I prefer to use balsa over a balsa skeleton and then the same process from there. My original dash kit i used the urethane foam which is the best to use than that home depot stuff. It is a two part Urethane foam if you guys are interested in looking it up. Here is a site with really good prices on any of this stuff http://www.shopmaninc/polyesters.inc Any how the stuff has a tendancy to end and break and warp when it fully cures and you have to get the mix pretty even to do it just right and to get a good consistancy or it gets brittle or soft but for the most part fun to work with if you dont go too think with it over a certain area. Hope some of this helps. I thought of doing this to some fenders but it would be difficult to keep symmetrical. Probably why the guy didnt make a mold and sell them because it was a one off he did without having to spend all the time making sure it was perfect, which is probably the most painful part of it all -- Derek

Not sure how he did it, but that "Great Stuff" WILL desintegrate once the fiber glass resin is applied to it! (unfortunately)

Well I"ll let you inon some tricks, since I'm in europe it won't hurt that much, will it?

First of all to the Deco maker dude. You got some nice latex mouldings there ;-)

Back to the moulding part and this guys widebody.

he did it alright but if he just "glued" the foam against the original steel fender,sanding it into form, fiberglassing it on the steel and sanding it back with filler it will give a nice result but will not be permanent.

For that matter, feberglassing polyester on any other material(steel/plastic) will not stick together due to a difference in expanding/shrinking coefficient. It WILL crack, the time it will take will depend on the method used to mould it in.

IF you have patience AND the skill to make pre-mould pieces you WILL be able to make parts that fit so perfect that you'll have to be within 10cm's to see that it wasn't moulded in.

Foam. In specialized Glasfiber stores (not home market or whatever) you can foam variants to whatever you need. Variant in expanding coefficient , colour, foam ensity, aplications for different polyester/epoxy variants,... the works

If you want to build a wide body like this you have 2 ways to go:

1. you have spare steel bodyparts to blend in your foam construction. Main advantage is that if you do this correctly and make decent mould afterwards you will have yourself a GF parts that is as good ad OEM fitment.
Disadvantage, your sample part wil break someday and ruin your chance of reproducing a mould form if it gets worn out or breaks.

2. you make a mould of your cars steel body part (original shape) and put it back on.
make a mould, foam/sand on th GF part you made fill it, sand it paint it, then mould again and there you have yourpart.
Advantage, you can build youtr parts apart from your car and keep driving.
you can always go back to stock in case of selling the car. etc
Disadvantage: carefull mould making for good fitment, time robbing.

If it's upto me, I pick option 2.


Making GF parts is no big deal because it's thesame as making the mould or whatever. Cost are relatively low.
What makes GF parts (out of a mould) expensive is al the preparation.
your pre-mould part has to be flawlessly sanded, sprayed and varnished to get a good result, have no release problems or any difficulties of that kind. (and those ARE difficulties, trust me.)

Need more info?
You can find me on MSN messenger (hotmail) by: streetwizer@hotmail.com

Greetz
Neal

Looks well done!!

http://www.fibreglast.com/sitemap.php

Explains the molding process.

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Because a new fender costs soooo much...

um, WTH Rich? :)

Holy thread resurrection batman!!

Just what I thought! lol, that's the best widebody I've seen yet for an FC!

Unless you cut out the stock fenders from underneath you're not really gaining anything and will have terrible rubbing problems.

I think Rich accidentally bumped this thread, realized it, and modified his post.

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Guys, stop asking the OP questions...he was banned almost 3 years ago anyway. :rlaugh: