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jimlab 11-13-04 02:05 AM

Powder coating question: "near chrome" finish?
 
I just got some powder coating done (rear subframe, IRS cradle, engine cradle, etc.) and wanted to get some more parts (intake, engine cover, door sill plates, strut tower bar) done by the same place. However, they don't have a chrome-like or polished aluminum appearing finish.

They've got every other color under the sun, 42 different silver metallics (just kidding), but nothing that looks like chrome or polished aluminum. The best they said they could do for me would be to clear powder coat the polished aluminum.

Some of the aluminum pieces have tiny scratches which are unavoidable on a newly polished part that's been cleaned with a cotton towel, but the powder coat would fill that in. However, some haven't been polished, and some aren't even aluminum. I want low maintenance on these parts, so all I want is a finish that I've heard called "near chrome" that looks like polished aluminum, or close enough.

I know it exists, because I seem to get an Eastwood Company catalog every 10 minutes or so in the mail, and they have a chrome-like powder coat which they then recommend using a clear or translucent coating over the top. I figured I could just buy the powder myself and take it to the shop to apply, but I wanted to be sure I was getting the right stuff. There are very few examples of actual colors in the Eastwood catalog. It's mostly just "drawings" representing various colors. :)

I don't think I've ever seen anyone with parts done with the Eastwood "chrome" finish, but I have seen some parts done by people at home with a spare oven that looked pretty good and nearly polished. Anyone have suggestions for the best powder to buy for a finish of this type?

Thanks!

BigIslandSevens 11-13-04 02:32 AM

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=Powdercoating

I am not sure that he used Eastwood, but Brian( 93BlackFD) did his engine parts and tranny front housing in a near chrome finish.
I think the links are dead but he talks about it in the thread.( I am tired and didn't re-read it)

That's the best i can do rite now. Pm him if he is around anymore. Haven't seen him in a while.

jimlab 11-13-04 02:50 AM

Thanks!

I think those are probably the parts that I saw, but I'm out of town at the moment, so I can't check my picture archives. I PM'd him to see if he can help.

Dan H 11-13-04 01:22 PM

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/attach...&postid=312131
These were done by Scott (raspyrx7) and the polished rotor is on the left, and powdercoat chrome on the right. I think I remember him mentioning that he uses Eastwood powder.


https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=kit
And here's a link for more pics of "near chrome" powder.

I'll be trying out the Eastwood chrome powder on my manifolds as soon as I get my oven in but you can probably contact Scott to get some feedback right away.

TurboSmoke 11-13-04 02:04 PM

check the dude in my sig :)

TurboSmoke 11-13-04 02:05 PM

opps, they dont work with fast reply's :banghead:

-TAL- 11-14-04 12:58 AM

If u have to, just buy the powder in a small amount and give it to them to use with the parts

TurboSmoke 11-14-04 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by -TAL-
If u have to, just buy the powder in a small amount and give it to them to use with the parts

see, that dose not make sence since he would be buying a whole bottle and depending on what he has done he might have alot of the powder left over. i did some powdercoating with raspy when i was out in idaho in march. You'd be better just sending your parts to someone that knows what they are doing.

-TAL- 11-14-04 10:38 AM

They obviously know what they are doing, they just don't have the colour.

Don't flame me in an attempt to pull business off the board.

Powder as i'm sure you know comes in tons of sizes. 8oz all the way up to 50lbs.

It does make sense because an 8oz bottle is only 13 dollars. It's not like it goings to break the bank, and by the size of the parts he got done allready i'd imagine they are local.

They money he would save on shipping it to you, he could buy the powder and Have money left to spare.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/p...keyword=Chrome

jimlab 11-14-04 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by TurboSmoke
see, that dose not make sence since he would be buying a whole bottle and depending on what he has done he might have alot of the powder left over.

Which doesn't bother me. Your continued use of "dose" does, though. :)


i did some powdercoating with raspy when i was out in idaho in march. You'd be better just sending your parts to someone that knows what they are doing.
The shop I'm dealing with has been in business for over 25 years and has the capacity to media strip and powder coat an entire car body, if that's what you wanted. In other words, they're not using an old oven. :)

They simply don't carry a chrome-like powder (for whatever reason) and recommended clear powder coating polished aluminum pieces instead because the gloss is higher. I'm sure they'd be happy to spray whatever powder I give them and keep the rest for their trouble, and I'm fine with that. My only question was WHERE to get the powder, because Eastwood's prices are usually high, and I didn't know if anyone had used that particular powder before. I'm more concerned with the results than the cost, but I do appreciate your effort to save me some money.

jimlab 11-14-04 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Dan H
These were done by Scott (raspyrx7) and the polished rotor is on the left, and powdercoat chrome on the right.

Thanks Dan!

FDNewbie 11-14-04 07:20 PM

Jim, is this the look you're going for? If so, that's the Coolkrome ceramic exterior coating that RX7Trix does, if you're interested.

http://www.rx7trix.com/store/image.php?productid=481

TurboSmoke 11-14-04 08:21 PM

i'm not the one that dose the powdercoating, scott RaspyRx7 is. if you look on his site. That rotor and housing in the pic on the left. That is mine. and also all the parts on the main page at the bottom are mine as well.

TurboSmoke

jimlab 11-15-04 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by TurboSmoke
i'm not the one that dose the powdercoating, scott RaspyRx7 is.

We know that he DOES. :)

jimlab 11-23-04 08:46 PM

BTW, I just ordered 5 lbs. of Eastwood Company's "Reflective Chrome" powder today. I'll have plenty left over when they're done coating my parts if anyone is interested in buying the remainder.

bigmack000 11-23-04 10:50 PM

for every one eles there is also a chrome paint designed by alsa corp. migtheb cheaper thenteh powder . always an option

manatecu 11-24-04 11:56 AM

Jim,

I used the same powder and a clear for my manifolds. It did not hold up to the heat. After about 6 months (Driving twice a week) the lower manifold looked like shattered glass. The upper manifold developed long cracks and tappered off the closer they got to the TB. I would not recommend it.

I ended up stripping it all off, polishing and applying a bare metal sealant. That has held up very well.

Chris

jimlab 11-24-04 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by manatecu
Jim,

I used the same powder and a clear for my manifolds. It did not hold up to the heat. After about 6 months (Driving twice a week) the lower manifold looked like shattered glass. The upper manifold developed long cracks and tappered off the closer they got to the TB. I would not recommend it.

I ended up stripping it all off, polishing and applying a bare metal sealant. That has held up very well.

Thanks Chris, but I don't have a rotary engine any more. :)

ejmack1 11-24-04 12:25 PM

I have seen powders on all parts of the engine including the engine itself and it has held up fine....

FDNewbie 11-24-04 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab
Thanks Chris, but I don't have a rotary engine any more. :)

Jim, two questions:

1) Does this mean you're definitely finishing up your FD??

2) Would you happen to know just how big the difference is between the normal operating temps of a rotary and the V8 you're running?

Ok...one more :p: Wouldn't using a sealer (like for example polishing the UIM then clearcoating it) be very bad, since it would decrease the metal's ability to dissapate heat? (I dunno if that's any diff than powdercoating, in the sense that you apply a layer of "paint" onto a metal, effectively sealing it from the outside...)

jimlab 11-24-04 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
1) Does this mean you're definitely finishing up your FD??

I've never "not" been finishing it. I'm just finishing it slowly, when I feel like it. :)


2) Would you happen to know just how big the difference is between the normal operating temps of a rotary and the V8 you're running?
Are you referring to EGTs or just general component temperatures?


Wouldn't using a sealer (like for example polishing the UIM then clearcoating it) be very bad, since it would decrease the metal's ability to dissapate heat? (I dunno if that's any diff than powdercoating, in the sense that you apply a layer of "paint" onto a metal, effectively sealing it from the outside...)
Sealing it from oxidation, not heat transfer, and the difference is probably negligible.

Dan H 11-24-04 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by manatecu
Jim,

I used the same powder and a clear for my manifolds. It did not hold up to the heat. After about 6 months (Driving twice a week) the lower manifold looked like shattered glass. The upper manifold developed long cracks and tappered off the closer they got to the TB. I would not recommend it.

I ended up stripping it all off, polishing and applying a bare metal sealant. That has held up very well.

Chris

This is the same Eastwood powder right?

And just curious. Was it just coated once and without clearcoat powder?

Healeyguy 11-24-04 01:50 PM

Another possibility is Jetcoating the parts. It's a ceramic filish and they do chrome/aluminum looking parts and will hold up real well to heat.

I have used them on a "badboy" Austin Healey I built years ago. Before anyone asks, a "badboy" Healey is a V8 powered Healey...

Jetcoat's site is at

http://www.jetcoat.com/customer/index3.html

Badboy Healey site is at

www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys

FDNewbie 11-24-04 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab
I've never "not" been finishing it. I'm just finishing it slowly, when I feel like it. :)

Oh...I thought you were losing interest in finishing it up. That's good to hear :)


Are you referring to EGTs or just general component temperatures?
General component temps

Sealing it from oxidation, not heat transfer, and the difference is probably negligible.[/QUOTE] Well can it still transfer heat as efficiently as if it wasn't sealed w/ a powdercoat or clearcoat? Because the underside is obviously the hot side, and the top side that's now sealed is the main area heat's gonna be disappated into the surrounding air...

Matt22 11-25-04 11:55 AM

wow , i really need to make friends with a local powdercoater. so I can PC most of the parts on my RX2. hmmm powdercoat looks so good.


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